OT. Anyone else think this is HILARIOUS?

[ELYEAH82]

Yes, they also lost Ilgauskas (largely a role bench player now), a washed up Shaq, and an underperforming Delonte West from 09-10. The core of the team is still the same save Lebron - a bunch of role players. Who on that team is an all-star caliber player? Because you need at least two to win in the NBA.

Look, if you don't like him based on "the decision," so be it. It's your opinion. But he didn't have a talented team around them. He carried them and made a lot of those guys better. Only so much one guy can do.

I dont disagree that he was the leader. But to say he didnt have enough to win while winning the most games in a season and earning the #1 seed isnt realistic. By virtue of being the #1 seed and favorite to win it all would indicate he had enough to get it done.

 

[ELYEAH82]

A shade dramatic.

Not if you consider the last title in Cleveland was in 1948.

 

[Slimpikins]

Do you even watch basketball? The Cavs lost a lot more than just James this offseason...I know for sure they lost

James
Ilgauskus
Delonte West
Shaq

and this is off the top of my head.

Really? You think the decline the Cav's had was becuase they lost a 75 year old Shaq? Really?

When the next best guy on your team is Boobie Gibson, you are a one player team...

 

[Slimpikins]

I dont disagree that he was the leader. But to say he didnt have enough to win while winning the most games in a season and earning the #1 seed isnt realistic. By virtue of being the #1 seed and favorite to win it all would indicate he had enough to get it done.

Not to pick on you but I don't agree with this either. Winning in the regular season and winning in the playoffs are two different things. Teams play different in the playoffs and you have to beat good teams repeatedly. You can't inflate your stats on bottom feeders and favorable scheduling.

If it were that easy the Sharks would have at least made a SCF by now.

 

[elocomotive]

I dont disagree that he was the leader. But to say he didnt have enough to win while winning the most games in a season and earning the #1 seed isnt realistic. By virtue of being the #1 seed and favorite to win it all would indicate he had enough to get it done.

They've never had 2 all-star caliber players on the team save Mo Williams having one really strong season in 08-09 (even then - 18ppg, 4apg, 3rpg, not all that impressive). You have to have that to win an NBA title. Simple. The talent was not there.

Lebron was constantly in series against the Pistons and Celtics were he was the best player in the series, and the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th best players were all on the other team. That's too much to ask.

As good as Jordan, Magic, Bird, and Kobe are, NONE of them did it without another big all-star, if not two or three of them.