Ongoing NHL thread - Part III

[Bloody Brian Burke]

So I guess it's the Flames versus the Toronto Maple Senators tonight at the Saddledome?

Kinda funny that technically Phaneuf has now been traded out of Calgary twice.

 

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Kinda funny that technically Phaneuf has now been traded out of Calgary twice.

Is Stajan the only guy remaining on the team he was traded to from the first trade? Does that mean the Flames win that trade?

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Is Stajan the only guy remaining on the team he was traded to from the first trade? Does that mean the Flames win that trade?

Hahaha indeed he is. Pre-game ceremony tonight.

 

[BGDave]

Just saw this. So basically Dion for a second next year?

 

[KennyBanyeah]

Just saw this. So basically Dion for a second next year?

LOL> I'm thrilled to get rid of 2 really bad contracts for one. Cowen and Greening are beyond useless. Michalek is still serviceable but he's injured right now (surprise, surprise). I'd bet he gets shipped out to a contender looking for depth.

Lindberg is a B prospect. If I had to bet I'd say that he ends up an NHL player. I don't think he'll ever be a big scorer but he's a big guy who can really skate.

So really you get Lindberg and a 2017 22nd.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

LOL> I'm thrilled to get rid of 2 really bad contracts for one. Cowen and Greening are beyond useless. Michalek is still serviceable but he's injured right now (surprise, surprise). I'd bet he gets shipped out to a contender looking for depth.

Lindberg is a B prospect. If I had to bet I'd say that he ends up an NHL player. I don't think he'll ever be a big scorer but he's a big guy who can really skate.

So really you get Lindberg and a 2017 22nd.

Annnnd you got Dion.

 

[BGDave]

BBB, who is next to go? Whats the rumour around town?

 

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I'm now waiting for the Sens to ship Dion to Edmonton for Eberle...

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Just saw this. So basically Dion for a second next year?

leafs did get rid of THAT contract ... PLUS they didnt retain any of it

Im trying to figure out if this makes Dan Hamhuis more valuable at the deadline ... although no matter wha, Benning will probably get less

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

BBB, who is next to go? Whats the rumour around town?

This morning was all about Bozak. He's hurt (likely short-term), but it wouldn't be a shock if he's next out.

Plus all the UFA guys.

 

[BGDave]

LOL> I'm thrilled to get rid of 2 really bad contracts for one. Cowen and Greening are beyond useless. Michalek is still serviceable but he's injured right now (surprise, surprise). I'd bet he gets shipped out to a contender looking for depth.

Lindberg is a B prospect. If I had to bet I'd say that he ends up an NHL player. I don't think he'll ever be a big scorer but he's a big guy who can really skate.

So really you get Lindberg and a 2017 22nd.

Didn't realize this is the guy who played with Oshawa last year. Sample size is waaaay too small,but had a good year and Mem Cup run last year.

 

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“This man has extremely impressed me,” Lamoriello told co-hosts Bob McCown and Ken Reid on Sportsnet 590 The Fan. “Watching him, how he’s handled the young players, watching how his work ethic has been, watching how he’s handled the media. He’s been one of the most impressive individuals I’ve been around. The leadership qualities that he’s shown me are genuine.”

Leafs GM Lou Lamoriello 'extremely impressed' by Dion Phaneuf - Sportsnet.ca

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

“This man has extremely impressed me,” Lamoriello told co-hosts Bob McCown and Ken Reid on Sportsnet 590 The Fan. “Watching him, how he’s handled the young players, watching how his work ethic has been, watching how he’s handled the media. He’s been one of the most impressive individuals I’ve been around. The leadership qualities that he’s shown me are genuine.”

Leafs GM Lou Lamoriello 'extremely impressed' by Dion Phaneuf - Sportsnet.ca

"How to Sell a Bridge" by Lou Lamoriello

 

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Im trying to figure out if this makes Dan Hamhuis more valuable at the deadline ... although no matter wha, Benning will probably get less

I don't get it, I'm keep hearing that the Canucks are trying to make the playoffs, why would they trade Hamhuis at the deadline?

 

[Comeds]

LMAO @ The Senators for getting the Leaf's sloppy seconds.

 

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LMAO @ The Senators for getting the Leaf's sloppy seconds.

Are you saying the Sens made A-very bad trade, comeds?

 

[jstewismybastardson]

I don't get it, I'm keep hearing that the Canucks are trying to make the playoffs, why would they trade Hamhuis at the deadline?

Is that the Club 16 Trevor Linden $20.99 per month spin youre hearing?

Botchford said this morning there is/has been no contract extension talk with Hammer

 

[jstewismybastardson]

maybe someone should ask Lord Linden if they are saying they want to make the playoffs so they can still sell tickets ... Im putting money on his answer being ... "its a delicate dance"

 

[KennyBanyeah]

leafs did get rid of THAT contract ... PLUS they didnt retain any of it

Im trying to figure out if this makes Dan Hamhuis more valuable at the deadline ... although no matter wha, Benning will probably get less

I don't think people understand the magnitude of Cowen and Greening's suckitude. These guys are HORRIBLE and being paid $7.7 M combined this year. Greening is on the 4th line.... in Binghamton. Cowen is a regular healthy scratch behind Mark Borowiecki (candidate for worst puckhandling D-man in the NHL) and Patrick "Baby Giraffe on Skates" Wiercioch. Michalek's contract is a little high too, although he can still play well when healthy.

It should be noted that while Phaneuf's deal is longer than all these guys' deals, his salary is declining. He makes $6M and $5.5 in his last two years. That's somewhat more palatable.

The more I think about it I'm pretty happy with this deal. Hopefully Phagoof can have a small resurgence by playing against second pairing competition.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I don't think people understand the magnitude of Cowen and Greening's suckitude. These guys are HORRIBLE and being paid $7.7 M combined this year. Greening is on the 4th line.... in Binghamton. Cowen is a regular healthy scratch behind Mark Borowiecki (candidate for worst puckhandling D-man in the NHL) and Patrick "Baby Giraffe on Skates" Wiercioch. Michalek's contract is a little high too, although he can still play well when healthy.

It should be noted that while Phaneuf's deal is longer than all these guys' deals, his salary is declining. He makes $6M and $5.5 in his last two years. That's somewhat more palatable.

The more I think about it I'm pretty happy with this deal.

His real $$$ is declining. So does Lupul's after this year; you want him too?

Capwise, Phaneuf's contract is just non-palatable. It may seem crazy but this deal is almost as good from a Leafs POV as the Clarkson trade.


They traded 5 more years of a $7 mil cap hit for one year of just $1.8 mil more. And, while crazier things have happened, they could even turn Cowen and/or Michalek into a half-decent trade chip next deadline and this deal becomes even sweeter. On the flip side, the Sens just flipped expiring small nightmares into a long ginormous one.

Hopefully Phagoof can have a small resurgence by playing against second pairing competition.

He already was - Hunwick and Rielly are the Leafs' top pair d-men. Maybe that's why he wasn't so terrible this year.