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Ongoing NHL thread - Part III

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Judge Fudge

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I think it was Friedman who said to expect this in yesterday's 30. Makes sense from the NHL's perspective - suspend 20 games and make the ref's union happy, fully expecting Wideman to appeal and leave it up to the arbitrator. It's win-win for them.

And for once in his life. Gary Rattmen is called a genius
 

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Also - screw you guys. The Habs had 3 wins in December and January. Lots of teams* would be happy with 3 wins in those months.
















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If Wideman wanted a lighter sentence, maybe he should have hit another player from behind on purpose.

It's funny because it's true.
 

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I think they'd still like a chance at a Cup.

I don't like going back on my predictions (except that one about NJ contending for the playoffs which I retracted after dragon laughed at me and now wish I hadn't lol), and they're still only 2 pts back albeit a few games ahead. Both SJ and Anaheim have gotten hot at points this season then cooled and they're both hot right now but both have multiple games remaining vs. the Canucks (the Sharks have all 5) and both are likely to do something stupid at the deadline so I still like Van's chances.

Were you one of the ones talking up Buffalo as a contender this year? I can't remember , I know there were a few people here on that train. I think you were on "Team Don't You Realize Just How Awful They Were Last Year?" along with me, am I wrong?
 

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Kent Wilson ‏@Kent_Wilson
If Wideman wanted a lighter sentence, maybe he should have hit another player from behind on purpose.

It's funny because it's true.
True, but at least they're in play. A referee is off limits. Period.
 

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Were you one of the ones talking up Buffalo as a contender this year? I can't remember , I know there were a few people here on that train
No. You and I argued with someone for a page about that with @sabresfaninthesouth I think, but he was saying they'd contend for the playoffs IIRC.

Even that was a stretch, though.

EDIT: Should say that the playoffs were a stretch. They have definitely improved, even if they're still at the bottom.
 

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No. You and I argued with someone for a page about that with @sabresfaninthesouth I think, but he was saying they'd contend for the playoffs IIRC.

Even that was a stretch, though.

Ah OK, that's what I thought.

I missed on Carolina because I simply don't watch them enough and underestimated how much an improvement in systems could do for them (and probably the likelihood of such an improvement happening in the first place).
 

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Ah OK, that's what I thought.

I missed on Carolina because I simply don't watch them enough and underestimated how much an improvement in systems could do for them (and probably the likelihood of such an improvement happening in the first place).
They're definitely among the surprises of the season.

I also disagree with all the shock about the Panthers - think they were always a good candidate for a next step.
 

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Hmm, there seems to be a little black rubber object on the ice in the immediate vicinity of where this incident occurred...:think:

Yes, although I think you can argue that Muzzin sees the ref and doesn't alter his path to the little black rubber object and makes contact with the official. Wideman signals to the bench for a line change and does try to alter his path when he sees the ref at the last moment.

Listen, the bottom line is that social media blew up and Colin Campbell capitulated to the hue and outcry. I knew after all this that Wideman would be suspended, but 20 games in my opinion is far too severe.
 

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I dunno, I think the refs should be held accountable for bad/missed calls by the enforcers of the league...it'll teach them to do better next time. :D
 

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Yes, although I think you can argue that Muzzin sees the ref and doesn't alter his path to the little black rubber object and makes contact with the official. Wideman signals to the bench for a line change and does try to alter his path when he sees the ref at the last moment.

Listen, the bottom line is that social media blew up and Colin Campbell capitulated to the hue and outcry. I knew after all this that Wideman would be suspended, but 20 games in my opinion is far too severe.
There was a confluence of 3 different events happening on the Muzzin hit - the play was shifting along the boards, the referee was blindly skating away from the movement in play and Muzzin was coming into the play at full speed.

Maybe Muzzin did hit him on purpose, but he had a very good excuse to blame it on. I'm still yet to hear one compelling argument about the Wideman hit that would make me believe it's anything other than blatant and stupid other than "he might have been concussed" which means the Calgary Flames should be penalized for not following league concussion protocol (and provide Nenshi with another excuse for why they don't need city money for their arena).
 

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I like the above post by BBB for confluence and another Nenshi mention :D
 

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I like the above post by BBB for confluence and another Nenshi mention :D
He earned a new fan when he mic-dropped Bettman.

I'd also like to trade mayors with CGY because I don't think Nenshi would blow $2 billion on a subway stop in Scarborough :crazy:
 

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NHLPA and Wideman still deciding on appeal. Expect a decision later today.
 
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