Ongoing NHL thread - Part deux

[forty_three]

Plug in Nick Bonino, then plug in Brandon Sutter (lol)

Some men just want to watch the world burn.



(and yes, I checked David Clarkson before I posted the link)

 

[pixburgher66]

"Oh, no. More crazy charts and fancy stats. Help me, what am I looking at here?"
"This basically says that almost all players fall somewhere on the chart between Tanner Glass and Sidney Crosby. And this is saying Jared Boll is worse than Tanner Glass."
"That makes total sense."


Edit: Own The Puck Tableau Visuals: The Glass-To-Crosby Scale
Have at it.

It's even better when you realize that very recently there were shifts that Glass was on Crosby's line. *vomits everywhere*

 

[Cobiemonster]

 

[Cobiemonster]

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

This seems....weird.

 

[Cobiemonster]

This seems....weird.

I would like to think that this means NHL Network would have more live programming in the US but I really don't know what to expect until the announcement comes out

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I would like to think that this means NHL Network would have more live programming in the US but I really don't know what to expect until the announcement comes out

Yeah but wouldn't NBC be involved in that? Why MLB lol

Guess we'll find out later.

 

[Cobiemonster]

Yeah but wouldn't NBC be involved in that? Why MLB lol

Guess we'll find out later.

 

[Cobiemonster]

MLBAM To Operate NHL's Digital Operations In New Six-Year Deal
- SportsBusiness Daily | SportsBusiness Journal | SportsBusiness Daily Global

 

[Cobiemonster]

I just hope MLB doesn't completely take over to the point where they take away NHL highlights on youtube because that's how MLB does it, they don't have highlights on youtube - maybe it won't be a complete take over and they'd have to still go by the NHL rules

 

[pixburgher66]

I just hope MLB doesn't completely take over to the point where they take away NHL highlights on youtube because that's how MLB does it, they don't have highlights on youtube - maybe it won't be a complete take over and they'd have to still go by the NHL rules

I assume this will happen. Overall though, this is likely a good marriage. MLB has much better coverage/programming on MLBN, and one can only hope some of that rubs off on NHLN.

 

[Cobiemonster]

I assume this will happen. Overall though, this is likely a good marriage. MLB has much better coverage/programming on MLBN, and one can only hope some of that rubs off on NHLN.

For sure, the coverage on NHLN should be better if this is what is going to happen - I just hope the NHL doesn't get greedy and start to take advantage of all of this just because they have more money now - I think if you really want your coverage and your videos to be on all platforms, then youtube needs to be one of them because people DO go on youtube to look at NHL highlights from the night before and I hope they give people as many different avenues as possible - that's one of the things MLB has gotten greedy with - I don't understand what is so bad about not having videos on youtube for whatever reason

In the link I posted, they said that they're moving the NHLN headquarters to where the MLBN headquarters are, so that will probably help as well

It'd be great if the NHL on the Fly show or whatever they will name it will be like MLB tonight where they do live highlights as they go and not replaying the same thing over and over again or replaying a goal that happened a minute or two ago when it's not live - and they need to get some new analysts, some of them don't do it for me

 

[forty_three]

Now that I am a member of generation Roku, I really couldn't care less what happens on "TV".

Give me a massive library of coaching videos, old games and features on players and who they really are. Give me minor hockey or European games. And give it to me online so I can choose when and what I watch. I'll pay for that.

I don't really need a 15th showing of the game where Mario scored his 500th, or the game where Patrick Roy went back to Montreal. I don't need Andy Petrillo asking scripted questions of Kevin Weekes in re-run four times a night.

I can watch Global, Sportsnet360, Sky Sports, Eurosport and CBC on my Roku. Or I can go online and get my info. The more TV channels that don't see the shift, or try to squeeze every penny out of content views (wanna see that again? 99 cents!), will slowly fade away.

To get me to tune back in to NHL Network regularly, they're gonna have to be a lot better than they are right now. And to get new fans, they are going to have to be a lot more accessible.


I also think it's stupid that my NHL Center Ice subscription does not give me the right to watch games online. Or vice versa. And now, they are saying I can order the online subscription, but only for my team if I want.

Brilliant. I can get those games over the air for free.

 

[pixburgher66]

Now that I am a member of generation Roku, I really couldn't care less what happens on "TV".

Give me a massive library of coaching videos, old games and features on players and who they really are. Give me minor hockey or European games. And give it to me online so I can choose when and what I watch. I'll pay for that.

I don't really need a 15th showing of the game where Mario scored his 500th, or the game where Patrick Roy went back to Montreal. I don't need Andy Petrillo asking scripted questions of Kevin Weekes in re-run four times a night.

I can watch Global, Sportsnet360, Sky Sports, Eurosport and CBC on my Roku. Or I can go online and get my info. The more TV channels that don't see the shift, or try to squeeze every penny out of content views (wanna see that again? 99 cents!), will slowly fade away.

To get me to tune back in to NHL Network regularly, they're gonna have to be a lot better than they are right now. And to get new fans, they are going to have to be a lot more accessible.


I also think it's stupid that my NHL Center Ice subscription does not give me the right to watch games online. Or vice versa. And now, they are saying I can order the online subscription, but only for my team if I want.

Brilliant. I can get those games over the air for free.

All the sports streaming services are like that. Pisses me off. I have MLBTV (dad moved out of market, is bored since he's alone until the move, yadda yadda, bought it for him), and chose it specifically so that I could at least stream it on my laptop/ipad (had to pay more for THAT, btw) and then HDMI it to my TV if I really want to. That second part though...that's new. And dumb. Is it cheaper to buy just your teams' games? I mean, I bought mine because I want to watch other games too.

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

Now if only they'd follow the direction of the NBA (ugh, did I really just type that) and offer Center Ice either on a per game basis or a per team basis in addition to the full season package.

Not entirely sure how that package works come playoff time (though I'm thinking perhaps all NBA playoff games are on national broadcasts?), but giving fans options is always good, IMO.

 

[pixburgher66]

Also, this is a fascinating discussion on the future of TV. I think most are preparing for a fallout. Netflix/Amazon Prime/Roku/Sling are changing the game completely in their own ways. If blackout restrictions ever change, I wouldn't have cable. Only thing keeping me paying a disgusting amount a month is live, local sports. If I were out of market, seeeeee ya.

 

[pixburgher66]

Now if only they'd follow the direction of the NBA (ugh, did I really just type that) and offer Center Ice either on a per game basis or a per team basis in addition to the full season package.

Not entirely sure how that package works come playoff time (though I'm thinking perhaps all NBA playoff games are on national broadcasts?), but giving fans options is always good, IMO.

Or they may even do something similar to MLB, who offers a playoff package. Actually I think you have to buy a playoff package separate, even if you bought a full season package.

 

[Cobiemonster]

Now if only they'd follow the direction of the NBA (ugh, did I really just type that) and offer Center Ice either on a per game basis or a per team basis in addition to the full season package.

Not entirely sure how that package works come playoff time (though I'm thinking perhaps all NBA playoff games are on national broadcasts?), but giving fans options is always good, IMO.

The good thing is that in the NHL come playoff time, all the games are on the NBC networks so you can go on the NBC site and watch games on there for free so I'm not sure you need a package for that for the NHL

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Now that I am a member of generation Roku, I really couldn't care less what happens on "TV".

Give me a massive library of coaching videos, old games and features on players and who they really are. Give me minor hockey or European games. And give it to me online so I can choose when and what I watch. I'll pay for that.

I don't really need a 15th showing of the game where Mario scored his 500th, or the game where Patrick Roy went back to Montreal. I don't need Andy Petrillo asking scripted questions of Kevin Weekes in re-run four times a night.

I can watch Global, Sportsnet360, Sky Sports, Eurosport and CBC on my Roku. Or I can go online and get my info. The more TV channels that don't see the shift, or try to squeeze every penny out of content views (wanna see that again? 99 cents!), will slowly fade away.

To get me to tune back in to NHL Network regularly, they're gonna have to be a lot better than they are right now. And to get new fans, they are going to have to be a lot more accessible.


I also think it's stupid that my NHL Center Ice subscription does not give me the right to watch games online. Or vice versa. And now, they are saying I can order the online subscription, but only for my team if I want.

Brilliant. I can get those games over the air for free.

How do you get Sky Sports on Roku? Can you also get BTSport?

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

Or they may even do something similar to MLB, who offers a playoff package. Actually I think you have to buy a playoff package separate, even if you bought a full season package.

NHL used to sell a PO only package, but they may have discontinued that now that all of the games are on the NBC networks. Full season package used to give you POs also.