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Fuck you, OP.
Do your homework.

Carson Pamer (2015)
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We've already had this topic in hundreds of other threads, but you had to go make this brutal diatribe about some shit you didn't even research.
Strange thing to get bent about, especially since you’re not even a Bucs fan, but you do you. Lol
 

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Tom Brady when Arians tells him he was brought in to lead an elite, aggressive passing-attack offense.
 

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Strange thing to get bent about, especially since you’re not even a Bucs fan, but you do you. Lol
What’s even more odd. Was his second post clearly shows he read the OP. Then this third reply, he tells everyone TLDR. There’s trolling and there’s him. Racebaiting and firestarting......
 

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Well it's the 1st time in a while that the Bucs will have a qb that does not identify as skrong. Let's see how it plays out. I think Brady will find skrength.
 

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We will see. I’m not sure if I want players in Tampa offense for fantasy or not because I could see it working really well or failing miserably.
Take Gronk. If he stays healthy that will be TBs binkie. I expect big numbers from Gronk especially with that WR group stretching the D.
 

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Brady to Tampa is going to end really poorly.

I get it. Tampa wanted to make a splash. What better way than signing the GOAT to be your QB?

However this is a truly awful fit

Like a "you couldnt have signed a guy less compatible with your offense " type fit

Arians offenses are downfield attacking. His QBs get hit and hit a ton.

Tampas skill guys are downfield guys. If you try to change the offense to help your QB you basically negate what your stud WRs do best.

Luck, Palmer, Big Ben, Winston... all big dudes with good to very good mobility .

Brady is 43, not huge, largely immobile.

Hes going to get killed back there.

OR

Tampa changes everything to keep him upright and loses pretty much every advantage theyve got on the outside that lured TB12 there in the first place

8-8

No playoffs

As I already mentioned he has Gronk. The WRs will leave plenty of room for Gronk to roam the middle of the field. Look for TB to do what he's always done. Look downfield, step up in the pocket, find Gronk or R. Jones II out of the backfield.

Tampa also has a fairly easy SoS. I can see 9-10 wins if Gronk stays healthy. If Gronk goes down they still have Brate and Howard at TE.

I can understand you being very afraid.
 

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When does Gronk get hurt? and what version will TB get? 2018 or 2014?
 

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When does Gronk get hurt? and what version will TB get? 2018 or 2014?
Week 1 getting absolutely devastated by converging DBs after Brady leaves a duck off his back hip?
 

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When does Gronk get hurt? and what version will TB get? 2018 or 2014?

Time will tell. A year off surely didn't hurt his chances of healing those nagging injuries.
As mentioned exit Gronk, in comes Brate or Howard. Not bad, many teams would love to have this problem.
Tampa has the potential to set all kinds of offensive records.
 

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Tampa has the potential to set all kinds of offensive records.
"Potential?" With that loaded offense, anything less than a Super Bowl will be laid at the feet of Tom Brady.
 

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LOL @ the rest of that crap you posted. LOL "As I already mentioned..." Oh, please. :rolleyes:
LOL, Jealous much? LOL "as I already mentioned". Here's another one for good measure, LOL.
 

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"Potential?" With that loaded offense, anything less than a Super Bowl will be laid at the feet of Tom Brady.
Hopefully someday you'll actually learn about the game of football. Most Pop Warner players understand there are three parts to a team. LOL again.
 

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As I already mentioned he has Gronk. The WRs will leave plenty of room for Gronk to roam the middle of the field. Look for TB to do what he's always done. Look downfield, step up in the pocket, find Gronk or R. Jones II out of the backfield.

Tampa also has a fairly easy SoS. I can see 9-10 wins if Gronk stays healthy. If Gronk goes down they still have Brate and Howard at TE.

I can understand you being very afraid.
Gronk will last less time than Brady but i get your point. Problem is then Tampa isnt using their best weapons. Basically theyd be NEs offense with a far worse D and ST

So like i said

8 wins
 

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As I already mentioned he has Gronk. The WRs will leave plenty of room for Gronk to roam the middle of the field. Look for TB to do what he's always done. Look downfield, step up in the pocket, find Gronk or R. Jones II out of the backfield.

Tampa also has a fairly easy SoS. I can see 9-10 wins if Gronk stays healthy. If Gronk goes down they still have Brate and Howard at TE.

I can understand you being very afraid.


Brady and Gronk do have a connection out there, no doubt... Example, with the season on the line...

 

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Gronk will last less time than Brady but i get your point. Problem is then Tampa isnt using their best weapons. Basically theyd be NEs offense with a far worse D and ST

So like i said

8 wins

There are only so many balls to go around. Those weapons just by being on the field allow others to get involved. It isn't fantasy football for these guys on Sunday. Brady doesn't care who's getting the ball as long as they win.

OBTW a healthy Gronk is just as much a weapon as those receivers are. Maybe more when you add in his ability as a blocker. You never know if he's blocking or going out?

Like I said, I would be worried as well.
 

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There are only so many balls to go around. Those weapons just by being on the field allow others to get involved. It isn't fantasy football for these guys on Sunday. Brady doesn't care who's getting the ball as long as they win.

OBTW a healthy Gronk is just as much a weapon as those receivers are. Maybe more when you add in his ability as a blocker. You never know if he's blocking or going out?

Like I said, I would be worried as well.
Gronks a huge add if hes healthy nut he hasnt been healthy in 5+ years so.

The point im making is that if you change the offense to fit Brady youre underutilizing your weapons. That wasnt a big deal in NE because you guys had an elite D and elite ST. Tampa does not.

Brady will undoubtedly protect the ball better which will help but there will also be many throws Winston made last year that Brady simply cant make anymore.

Tampa will be better but i dont see some huge turnaround here.

We shall see
 

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Worth mentioning that Matt Ryan has been sacked 90 times in two seasons.
 

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Gronks a huge add if hes healthy nut he hasnt been healthy in 5+ years so.

The point im making is that if you change the offense to fit Brady youre underutilizing your weapons. That wasnt a big deal in NE because you guys had an elite D and elite ST. Tampa does not.

Brady will undoubtedly protect the ball better which will help but there will also be many throws Winston made last year that Brady simply cant make anymore.

Tampa will be better but i dont see some huge turnaround here.

We shall see

I get your point. Gronk never had a year to get healthy either.

Teams still need to defend those receivers. When Brady doesn't target them Gronk will eat Ds alive. The weapons are still there.
 

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Worth mentioning that Matt Ryan has been sacked 90 times in two seasons.
Absolutely. Great comp actually. Similar skill talent, below average OL. Ryan of course is also far younger but it wouldnt shock me at all to see Brady get sacked 40-50 times and hit 100+
 
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