Ohtani to Dodgers. 7/$700

[wazzu31]

but $700 million, what's the next contract? A Billion?

Sure, but how much are franchise’s worth now? We can now use the extreme example of Ohtani but the rebuttal back to that is the Oakland A’s, the Tampa Bay Rays. I’m not saying there shouldn’t be a cap, but I have zero faith in the owners. The players nor the owners give two shits about the health or future of the sport, but the players do things that make fans happy, 26 owners take away happiness.

 

[Cloud]

but $700 million, what's the next contract? A Billion?

It’s gonna happen within the next 5 years. Precedence has been set.

 

[redseat]

It’s gonna happen within the next 5 years. Precedence has been set.

at this rate I saw either next year or the year after

 

[Cloud]

Sure, but how much are franchise’s worth now? We can now use the extreme example of Ohtani but the rebuttal back to that is the Oakland A’s, the Tampa Bay Rays. I’m not saying there shouldn’t be a cap, but I have zero faith in the owners. The players nor the owners give two shits about the health or future of the sport, but the players do things that make fans happy, 26 owners take away happiness.

What you’re saying is exactly true but I feel like at some point there needs to be a cap or re-evaluation of the contracts given.

At some point ballparks will become quite an exclusive club for the rich when they start charging arms and legs in order to fund these players. Looking forward to $100 beers!

 

[srf1957]

$2million a year. is what he gets now . deferred to 2034. to 2043 . when he gets 68 million a year . Only a 46 mil CBT tax . They can get Yamamoto the same way

 

[redseat]

$2million a year. is what he gets now . deferred to 2034. to 2043 . when he gets 68 million a year . Only a 46 mil CBT tax . They can get Yamamoto the same way

I was just going to post this!

Dodgers are gonna be broke come 2034.2043 lol

Shohei Ohtani to defer $68 million per year in unusual arrangement with Dodgers: Sources

 

[Cloud]

I was just going to post this!

Dodgers are gonna be broke come 2034.2043 lol

Shohei Ohtani to defer $68 million per year in unusual arrangement with Dodgers: Sources

2034-2043 will cripple the Dodgers. But from now until then, it’s lessens the burden on them. So what this means is that they better win some championships until 2034 to consider this deal a success. Note: Championships, multiple.

It’s a 10 years deal, but they are on the hook for the next 20. He’ll be long retired by then. Yikes.

 

[redseat]

2034-2043 will cripple the Dodgers. But from now until then, it’s lessens the burden on them. So what this means is that they better win some championships until 2034 to consider this deal a success. Note: Championships, multiple.

It’s a 10 years deal, but they are on the hook for the next 20. He’ll be long retired by then. Yikes.

Yomomoto (or how ever you spell his name... Welcome to LA)

 

[MilkSpiller22]

2034-2043 will cripple the Dodgers. But from now until then, it’s lessens the burden on them. So what this means is that they better win some championships until 2034 to consider this deal a success. Note: Championships, multiple.

It’s a 10 years deal, but they are on the hook for the next 20. He’ll be long retired by then. Yikes.

might not cripple them the way player inflation works... maybe that's the idea... hope that in 10 years 68 mil per year may be NOT THAT HIGH!!!

 

[Cloud]

Yomomoto (or how ever you spell his name... Welcome to LA)

This is my thought as well. Seems like the deferment is part of the plan to also for the Dodgers to bring this guy in too.

 

[Mebert]

2034-2043 will cripple the Dodgers. But from now until then, it’s lessens the burden on them. So what this means is that they better win some championships until 2034 to consider this deal a success. Note: Championships, multiple.

It’s a 10 years deal, but they are on the hook for the next 20. He’ll be long retired by then. Yikes.

No it won't. 68 million means nothing to them, and at that point it would not count against the competive balance tax. It is just a bill on the books.

This gave them 30 million back they can spend this year without hitting the luxury with 0 impact after.

 

[redseat]

This is my thought as well. Seems like the deferment is part of the plan to also for the Dodgers to bring this guy in too.

Yeah I am almost positive that's why Ohtani did this.. He knew that dude was also coming

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Yeah I am almost positive that's why Ohtani did this.. He knew that dude was also coming

nah... it doesn't hurt.. but its not the only reason why... the why is obvious...the angels squandered him and trout... he doesn't want the dodgers to NOT get players just because of him... he just wants to win championships... and I don't blame him

 

[NWinAZ]

The first thing I thought of was just kind of confirmed by a few on twitter. California state tax on that amount of money is huge. If he defers to year 11 and on, all he has to do is move out of state and he saves all that state tax on $680M. One report said about $86M saved. Not a bad reason to do it.

 

[wazzu31]

What you’re saying is exactly true but I feel like at some point there needs to be a cap or re-evaluation of the contracts given.

At some point ballparks will become quite an exclusive club for the rich when they start charging arms and legs in order to fund these players. Looking forward to $100 beers!

Fair, I don’t disagree but who gets to decide? Players allowed the luxury tax that was suppose help the sport and it did the exact opposite. I just don’t know how there can be a cap that isn’t a punishment on the players and a reward to the owners. Either way us fans will get screwed but when was the last time that tickets really went down?

I hear you on the ballpark pricing. It’s kind of like how the Mariners made the city and county pay the $100 plus million on maintenance but the Mariners spend $50 mill on upgrades that only they and stupid rich people will get to use.

 

[BigKen]

Any team can do the same thing. The only problem is that baseball contracts are 100% guaranteed and nobody can diddle with them except extend and increase them.

The Dodgers have $1.5B tied up in Three players now. If a broken Ohtani is worth $700M over 10, what is Yamamoto going to be looking for?
He's 27. How about 8 years $500M?

 

[wazzu31]

Any team can do the same thing. The only problem is that baseball contracts are 100% guaranteed and nobody can diddle with them except extend and increase them.

The Dodgers have $1.5B tied up in Three players now. If a broken Ohtani is worth $700M over 10, what is Yamamoto going to be looking for?
He's 27. How about 8 years $500M?

No the question is what is the real best pitcher in Japan going to cost. Roki Sasaki is going to cost more than Yamamoto

 

[NWinAZ]

Andrew Baggarly

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Ohtani camp presented Giants the exact deal that Ohtani ended up finalizing with LA. "We were agreeable to it," Zaidi said. Then Giants were told it was in Ohtani's hands. Obviously, Shohei picked Dodgers.

 

[redseat]

nah... it doesn't hurt.. but its not the only reason why... the why is obvious...the angels squandered him and trout... he doesn't want the dodgers to NOT get players just because of him... he just wants to win championships... and I don't blame him

I get that and I agree but I am sure he knew they really wanted Yomoto as well and he is doing everything he can to get him

 

[shopson67]

For the same money, some team could sign both Bellinger and Yamamoto and still have $200 million left over. I kinda hope the Blue Jays do that and then beat the Dodgers in the 2024 World Series.

Ohtani will only cost about $2m per season for the 10 years of his contract. The rest is deferred. Dodgers still in on Yamamoto and others.