Oh Jerry

[DALLAScornhusker]

 

[PDay8810]

Well good for u

You asked....I responded
It's just one mans opinion, but I do think Jerry will do him a solid and release him so he can choose where he'd like to play. I'm just not sure if they take the entire hit in 2017 or designate him a post June 1 release. That's the only question in my mind.

 

[PDay8810]

Romo is set to make $14 million in 2017. He is scheduled to make $19.5 million in 2018 and $20.5 million in 2019. Would a team want to take on that kind of salary in 2017 knowing he has played in parts of five games the last two seasons?

And therein lies the rub on a trade and why a release is easier and potentially cleaner for the Cowboys.

Romo is carrying a $24.7 million salary-cap figure in 2017.

If the Cowboys trade Romo or release him, he will count $19.6 million against their cap in 2017. If they designate him a post-June 1 release, Romo will count $10.7 million against the cap in 2017 and $8.9 million against the 2018 cap. But the Cowboys would not gain the $14 million cap credit until June 2.

So is it better to have the $5.1 million in March or the $14 million in June?

At present, the Cowboys will need to restructure a few contracts to get under the cap by March 9 when the league year begins. We laid out all sorts of options here, but the Cowboys can get under the proposed cap simply by reworking the deals of Tyron Smith and Travis Frederick, saving them roughly $17 million in cap space.

That will give the Cowboys some spending money going into free agency when the best players on the open market are available. Add in the $5.1 million from Romo’s deal and the Cowboys will be in better shape.

Given the cap room available to most teams those proposed moves would not put the Cowboys in position to be the highest bidders on a war-daddy or any other player at a position of need in free agency.

On a positive note, however, the Cowboys will also be free and clear from Romo’s contract in 2018.

So what is the benefit of the June 1 designation?

By the time the Cowboys get the cap credit, most or all of the desirable free agents will be off the market. The bulk of the high-priced free agent signings are gone after a week in March.

The Cowboys could use the $14 million to pay for their draft picks, their practice squad players, the injury settlements that crop up every summer, the free agents they will sign during the course of the year, and then they could simply carryover the left over money to the 2018 cap.

What about the Zack Martin deal? If Martin signs a contract extension this summer the way Smith and Frederick did in 2014 and 2016, there won’t be much of a cap effect. Martin has a cap figure of $2.85 million in 2017. With how the Cowboys structure their contracts, Martin’s cap figure should remain about the same, so the $14 million credit from Romo won’t play a factor.

So which way will the Cowboys go?

If we believe their stated philosophy of the last few years, then it makes more sense to designate Romo as a post-June 1 cut when the league year begins. (They can’t use the designation until March 9.)


Stephen Jones has said countless times free agency does not solve all of the problems and the production does not equal the money paid out. Also, it could keep the Cowboys from restructuring more contracts in March, say Dez Bryant's and/or Tyrone Crawford's that would raise their cap figures in future years.

But if the Cowboys -- well, really, Jerry Jones -- want to go all in, cap be damned, as he chases a Super Bowl with a young quarterback in Dak Prescott and running back in Ezekiel Elliott, they can create all the cap room necessary they want.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Romo is set to make $14 million in 2017. He is scheduled to make $19.5 million in 2018 and $20.5 million in 2019. Would a team want to take on that kind of salary in 2017 knowing he has played in parts of five games the last two seasons?

And therein lies the rub on a trade and why a release is easier and potentially cleaner for the Cowboys.

Romo is carrying a $24.7 million salary-cap figure in 2017.

If the Cowboys trade Romo or release him, he will count $19.6 million against their cap in 2017. If they designate him a post-June 1 release, Romo will count $10.7 million against the cap in 2017 and $8.9 million against the 2018 cap. But the Cowboys would not gain the $14 million cap credit until June 2.

So is it better to have the $5.1 million in March or the $14 million in June?

At present, the Cowboys will need to restructure a few contracts to get under the cap by March 9 when the league year begins. We laid out all sorts of options here, but the Cowboys can get under the proposed cap simply by reworking the deals of Tyron Smith and Travis Frederick, saving them roughly $17 million in cap space.

That will give the Cowboys some spending money going into free agency when the best players on the open market are available. Add in the $5.1 million from Romo’s deal and the Cowboys will be in better shape.

Given the cap room available to most teams those proposed moves would not put the Cowboys in position to be the highest bidders on a war-daddy or any other player at a position of need in free agency.

On a positive note, however, the Cowboys will also be free and clear from Romo’s contract in 2018.

So what is the benefit of the June 1 designation?

By the time the Cowboys get the cap credit, most or all of the desirable free agents will be off the market. The bulk of the high-priced free agent signings are gone after a week in March.

The Cowboys could use the $14 million to pay for their draft picks, their practice squad players, the injury settlements that crop up every summer, the free agents they will sign during the course of the year, and then they could simply carryover the left over money to the 2018 cap.

What about the Zack Martin deal? If Martin signs a contract extension this summer the way Smith and Frederick did in 2014 and 2016, there won’t be much of a cap effect. Martin has a cap figure of $2.85 million in 2017. With how the Cowboys structure their contracts, Martin’s cap figure should remain about the same, so the $14 million credit from Romo won’t play a factor.

So which way will the Cowboys go?

If we believe their stated philosophy of the last few years, then it makes more sense to designate Romo as a post-June 1 cut when the league year begins. (They can’t use the designation until March 9.)


Stephen Jones has said countless times free agency does not solve all of the problems and the production does not equal the money paid out. Also, it could keep the Cowboys from restructuring more contracts in March, say Dez Bryant's and/or Tyrone Crawford's that would raise their cap figures in future years.

But if the Cowboys -- well, really, Jerry Jones -- want to go all in, cap be damned, as he chases a Super Bowl with a young quarterback in Dak Prescott and running back in Ezekiel Elliott, they can create all the cap room necessary they want.

I think the Cowboys will go after a pass rusher, maybe not JPP, but a name for sure. I don't think the pass rush woe's we had can be fixed in one draft, and I think the Cowboys feel they are a pass rush away from a ring

 

[PDay8810]

I think the Cowboys will go after a pass rusher, maybe not JPP, but a name for sure. I don't think the pass rush woe's we had can be fixed in one draft, and I think the Cowboys feel they are a pass rush away from a ring

" So is it better to have the $5.1 million in March or the $14 million in June?"

I'm thinking they take the hit this year as well in order to land a D Ware type player

 

[UK Cowboy]

" So is it better to have the $5.1 million in March or the $14 million in June?"

I'm thinking they take the hit this year as well in order to land a D Ware type player

I think if Ware doesn't return to Denver, he will be a Cowboy

 

[Manster7588]

I'm not one to say Romo definitely wont be a Cowboy in 17, but if he is he will have to take a straight up pay cut. Same will have to occur for him to be traded, Dallas will have to let any team willing to trade for Romo to negotiate a contract with him. Personally if I can keep Romo and save 5M without getting rid of him I do it in a heart beat.

 

[Manster7588]

I think if Ware doesn't return to Denver, he will be a Cowboy

League minimum is 1M. Ware made 4M base salary + bonus and incentives last season. Not sure what kind of money he'd want but I doubt 1M will do it and currently the team can't afford 4M. Love to have him back though. If he does resign I'm sure he'll get his number back since Gregory wont be wearing in in 17.

 

[PDay8810]

I'm not one to say Romo definitely wont be a Cowboy in 17, but if he is he will have to take a straight up pay cut. Same will have to occur for him to be traded, Dallas will have to let any team willing to trade for Romo to negotiate a contract with him. Personally if I can keep Romo and save 5M without getting rid of him I do it in a heart beat.

I'm no cap guru but I can't see any way Romo stays in Dallas. Romo wants to play and no way in hell should this be an open completion at QB. Prescott deserves to be the man. It's his team now IMO.

 

[Manster7588]

I'm no cap guru but I can't see any way Romo stays in Dallas. Romo wants to play and no way in hell should this be an open completion at QB. Prescott deserves to be the man. It's his team now IMO.

Interesting, I always thought you were 100% for ipen competition regardless of what you did last season. Dak is young, IF Romo somehow wins the job, we all know it will be Daks job vwry soon.

 

[PDay8810]

Interesting, I always thought you were 100% for ipen competition regardless of what you did last season. Dak is young, IF Romo somehow wins the job, we all know it will be Daks job vwry soon.

Competition is great but not at QB.

I sat through Morton/Staubach and Walch/Aikman and nothing good came from those. We sure as hell don't need a divided team.

Dak has earned the job and it's time for Romo to go

 

[UK Cowboy]

League minimum is 1M. Ware made 4M base salary + bonus and incentives last season. Not sure what kind of money he'd want but I doubt 1M will do it and currently the team can't afford 4M. Love to have him back though. If he does resign I'm sure he'll get his number back since Gregory wont be wearing in in 17.

$4 million for a guy that can get you 8-10 sacks as a rush specialist is pretty good IMO

 

[Manster7588]

Competition is great but not at QB.

I sat through Morton/Staubach and Walch/Aikman and nothing good came from those. We sure as hell don't need a divided team.

Dak has earned the job and it's time for Romo to go

Weren't you one of those calling for Dallas to bring in competition for Romo yearly?

 

[Manster7588]

$4 million for a guy that can get you 8-10 sacks as a rush specialist is pretty good IMO

No argument, but just how much does Dallas have to pay Ware and how much will he want, are the two questions needing to be answered.

 

[PDay8810]

Weren't you one of those calling for Dallas to bring in competition for Romo yearly?

I don't think so, but I guess you think I did.

I was the one that talked about 2 steps forward and 1 step back with regards to Romo's play. I also said being a longtime Dallas fan, QB's are judged by playoff advancement, not passing records.

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

Not gonna bite on this. One thing is for certain, we all have our opinions. I would love for Romo to get his shot with this team, but it doesn't look like that will be the case. I can cheer for two teams.

 

[Manster7588]

I don't think so, but I guess you think I did.

I was the one that talked about 2 steps forward and 1 step back with regards to Romo's play. I also said being a longtime Dallas fan, QB's are judged by playoff advancement, not passing records.

Maybe I'm mistaken on you, I do know many called for competition for Romo. Personally I prefer competition at all positions then support the winner.