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[bksballer89]

i look at the Heat's roster and i wonder

who rebounds?

who shoots threes and spaces the floor?

who draws fouls?

who runs in transition/guards in transition?


the Heat are going to get run off the floor by athletic teams like the Raptors and Hornets. They are an awful 3 pt shooting team as well- and might be the worst rebounding team in the entire league.

if they get the 6th seed i would be very surprised.- and thats if Wade plays 70 games WHILE carrying the load which the chances of that happening are miniscule.



the only chance they have is if Bosh plays like a top 10 player and gets 10+ boards and 20+ points a game and draws fouls----- and that there point guards improve a ton, learn to shoot three's and actually make plays which is highly doubtful since there PG situation is easily top ten worst in the league

1) Who Rebounds? Bosh, Bird, and McRoberts. Also Wade is still one of the best rebounding SG in the NBA still

2) Chalmers, Cole, Bosh, McRoberts, Deng, and one of the specialist that they just signed this week.

3) Wade and Bosh will obviously be more aggressive and usage will increase. The Heat were never a team who get to the line a lot anyway so bringing this up is useless. LBJ had a lot of games where he didn't feel like being aggressive and just played on the perimeter.

4) We will see Spo philosophy in camp. I don't know why you act like every single team should be running in transition. As a coach in camp and the early months of the season you find a style that fits our team and stick to it.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Rebounds- Bosh, McRoberts, Birdman.
Bosh has not averaged 7 rebounds in 3 years- Birdman is 35 and plays 20 minutes a game
Shoots 3's- I have no clue is Allen leaves.
there 3 pt shooting might be the worst in the league
Draws Fouls- Wade, Napier, Bosh, McRoberts activity.
Wades FT attempts are on a preciptous decline to less then 5 a game last year (in the 53 games he started) Bosh? 2.4FT attempts last year since he just sits on the perimeter, cmon
Guards in transition- Deng and Wade if his knee's hold up.
both guys are beat to crap and cant run in transition with a bunch of athletes on a nightly basis- it would kill them- and there is NO one that can push the ball or get easy bucekts in transition besides those few nights a year Wade feels good and motivated
6th seed? Sure.

Higher? Possible, not probable because so many other teams improved too.

Gonna be a fun regular season in the East.

The top 2 teams are clear.

But, there isn't huge separation between the rosters of the 3rd thru 8th seeds.

we shall see

 

[bksballer89]

You do realize Bosh never shot 3's. Love shoots out there a lot and his shooting % is still very high.

I also realize that much was putting up almost identical offensive numbers as Love did without chucking up as many shots per game.

 

[Mecca]

there is no telling how it works out- Wade isnt a PG- and Wade couldnt space the floor by shooting from deep since he is an awful 3 pt shooter

who says that Kyrie isnt a better match because he can actually pass, make plays, and shoot from deep- instead of just playing dueling banjos with LeBron and- i get this possession- you get the next possession

as far as all star level players go Wade is just not a good fit with LeBron all things equal and it ended up showing when the Mavericks pissed in their cheerios in the Finals- only when Wade took a backseat did the Heat win a title.


and 4 years later I dont think Wade has enough in the tank to take back over the team- if he couldnt show up in the Finals last year after all that rest during the regular season- and the ridiculously spaced apart postseason schedule- WITH LeBron drawing double teams constantly- what possibly makes you think Wade can do it this next season?

Wade in the Finals

4/12 11 pts 1 assist 3 boards 3TO 0blk 0stls 36 minutes
3/13 10 pts 4 assists 2 boards 3TO 0blk 4steals 33 minutes
8/12 22pts 2 assists 4 boards 5 TO 0blk 2steals 36 minutes
5/9 14 pts 4 assists 7 boards 5TO 0 blk 1stl 34 minutes
8/18 19 pts 2 assists 3 boards 2 TO 0 blk 1stl 33 minutes

43% 15 pts 3 assists 4 boards

ya know what i see? a Guy that did not have even one big game- and more than anything- Dwade in his prime used to create havoc defensively- ZERO blocks and only one game with any kind of steals??? thats not what DWade used to be----

Kyrie could do that shit in his sleep

Dude, there isn't a single person outside of Ohio that would say that Kyrie today was better than the Wade of yesteryear.

Your homerism knows no bounds.


Seriously, this would be like Minny fans saying Wiggins is better than Lebron.

James Harden is better than prime Kobe.

Dwight Howard is better than prime Shaq.


Wade is a 3x Champ and Kyrie is a guy who never won more than 33 games.

Please stop.

 

[bksballer89]

Why don't you post up Wade's numbers in the Eastern Conference finals. Also post Bosh numbers.

If those 2 didn't play at the level they did, Indy takes it to 7 and probably eliminates Miami.

 

[bksballer89]

Kyrie is not even a top 30 player in the league.

 

[WiggyRuss]

I also realize that much was putting up almost identical offensive numbers as Love did without chucking up as many shots per game.

of course! Love was smothered by double and triple teams! its a miracle Love was efficient as he was

and wahts really a miracle is Love led the league in rebounding despite taking a TON of perimeter shots- it just proves its possible to do so- and takes that excuse from Bosh

Love took over 500 threes last year and led the league in rebounding- do you realize how insane that is? how improbable and how freaking good at rebounding that guy must be?

LeBron instead of having to be the best rebounder on the Cavs will be the 3rd or 4th best and have a huge load taken off his shoulders in that department

 

[bksballer89]

Also he's speaking about teams running Miami off the court like they're some old team.

Miami main rotation avg age is 27.6 which is not that old at all.

 

[LTCF]

there is no telling how it works out- Wade isnt a PG- and Wade couldnt space the floor by shooting from deep since he is an awful 3 pt shooter

Wade is nearing the end of a great career. His body is just breaking down. Happens to all of them eventually. Deng was barely able to walk in Cleveland, his back was hurting. That's not a good thing to have a back problem and usually indicates your career is close to over. The Bulls abused him defensively and shortened his career and then told him that they didn't want him. Cleveland saw the diminished physical ability. Miami was forced to do something since LBJ left. Deng was their only option really.

The top 3 seeds in the EC are Cavs, Bulls, and Wizards. Then, Indy, Toronto, Charlotte, NY, Atlanta, Brooklyn, and Miami can fight it out for the last 5. Maybe Detroit too.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Dude, there isn't a single person outside of Ohio that would say that Kyrie today was better than the Wade of yesteryear.

Your homerism knows no bounds.


Seriously, this would be like Minny fans saying Wiggins is better than Lebron.

James Harden is better than prime Kobe.

Dwight Howard is better than prime Shaq.


Wade is a 3x Champ and Kyrie is a guy who never won more than 33 games.

Please stop.

the Wade of yesteryear on their own or Kyrie of last year on their own- NO DOUBT WADE- not even close of course wade- hes a hall of famer

but Wade's talents just are not complimentary of LeBron's-they are duplicative- they dont naturally Mesh like Love's do-----and Kyrie's skills might /probably (probably because we dont know yet) be a better fit than Wade's - because he can pass, and shoot from the outside to create space big time and push the offense

and you have to give it to Kyrie that at the end of the game the guy is amazingly clutch - of course Dwade has a better track record- but Kyrie is 22 and has proved that he can take a big shot at the end of the game if given the opportunity

 

[LTCF]

Kyrie is not even a top 30 player in the league.

That's crazy talk from someone who isn't very NBA knowledgeable.

 

[Hambombs]

Kyrie is not even a top 30 player in the league.

Barely top 40

 

[bksballer89]

of course! Love was smothered by double and triple teams! its a miracle Love was efficient as he was

and wahts really a miracle is Love led the league in rebounding despite taking a TON of perimeter shots- it just proves its possible to do so- and takes that excuse from Bosh

Love took over 500 threes last year and led the league in rebounding- do you realize how insane that is? how improbable and how freaking good at rebounding that guy must be?

LeBron instead of having to be the best rebounder on the Cavs will be the 3rd or 4th best and have a huge load taken off his shoulders in that department

Which explains why last season was the fewest OFF RPG he avg in his career. You're talking like the only way to grab rebounds is on offense. His perimeter shots has absolutely nothing to do with defensive rebounds which is where most of his rebounds come from. His offensive rebounds numbers been dropping for 3 years now

 

[Hambombs]

That's crazy talk from someone who isn't very NBA knowledgeable.

The dude is overrated lol he shoots and handles the rock what else?? Average playmaker too

 

[bksballer89]

That's crazy talk from someone who isn't very NBA knowledgeable.

Wait you really think Kyrie is top 30 player in the league?

 

[Hambombs]

Wait you really think Kyrie is top 30 player in the league?

lol he shoots the rock and handles it well, that's all he does well

 

[Mecca]

the Wade of yesteryear on their own or Kyrie of last year on their own- NO DOUBT WADE- not even close of course wade- hes a hall of famer

but Wade's talents just are not complimentary of LeBron's-they are duplicative- they dont naturally Mesh like Love's do-----and Kyrie's skills might /probably (probably because we dont know yet) be a better fit than Wade's - because he can pass, and shoot from the outside to create space big time and push the offense

and you have to give it to Kyrie that at the end of the game the guy is amazingly clutch - of course Dwade has a better track record- but Kyrie is 22 and has proved that he can take a big shot at the end of the game if given the opportunity

Okay, we agree here.


Kyrie fits much better than Wade because of his ability to knock down the long ball.

You are absolutely correct that their styles are not redundant and should be a much better fit.


Just for the record, I disagree that Kyrie is not a top 30 player.

The guy is still so very young and uber-talented.

There are not 29 other guys that are head and shoulders above him.

 

[Mecca]

Wait you really think Kyrie is top 30 player in the league?

I think he is, talent wise.

 

[LTCF]

Barely top 40

An All Star, All Star MVP, numerous game winners, and finally with some talent surrounding him, you'll see how good he can be. I think the Kyrie (Cleveland) haters will finally be put out of their misery.

 

[Heatles84]

Also he's speaking about teams running Miami off the court like they're some old team.

Miami main rotation avg age is 27.6 which is not that old at all.

It's amazing, because Miami was regarded as one of the most athletic teams. Now that Lebron is gone, Miami's old and can't transition. Also, something Russ fails to realize, is Miami got out to all those fast breaks due to forcing turnovers on the defensive end. The Cavs are going to have to play defense to pull this off. Something we're all waiting to see.