Official NFL Draft Thread

[northwinds]

It's not a track meet junior. DeAndre is a better football player.

So what do you base this "analysis" on "Pops".....just askin' and willing to listen. So far I've heard that 40 times are suddenly irrelevant....the NFL combine is some "reality" program just to keep the masses interested in football in the Spring.....and measureables (other than the 20 shuttle run by Tayvon) are all irrelevant......

 

[northwinds]

I've already texted the Commish and suggested that we do away with the objective Combine numbers next year.......and just go with the totally subjective "dynamism" factor.....funny stuff.....won't have to watch Letterman's monologue tonight to get my laughs......

 

[Edisto_Tiger]

So what do you base this "analysis" on "Pops".....just askin' and willing to listen. So far I've heard that 40 times are suddenly irrelevant....the NFL combine is some "reality" program just to keep the masses interested in football in the Spring.....and measureables (other than the 20 shuttle run by Tayvon) are all irrelevant......

What's there to show? What is it you're after? The experts have choosen Nuk to be an NFL ball player. Pretty cut and dry.

 

[LeaderOCola]

I've already texted the Commish and suggested that we do away with the objective Combine numbers next year.......and just go with the totally subjective "dynamism" factor.....funny stuff.....won't have to watch Letterman's monologue tonight to get my laughs......

good, maybe in the meantime you can ask roger which nfl team should be your favorite, since you claim to like 3

 

[uncfan103]

So what do you base this "analysis" on "Pops".....just askin' and willing to listen. So far I've heard that 40 times are suddenly irrelevant....the NFL combine is some "reality" program just to keep the masses interested in football in the Spring.....and measureables (other than the 20 shuttle run by Tayvon) are all irrelevant......

Way more relevant than straight line speed if you know what your looking for

 

[Brasky]

Nassib I feel like is one of the better and more talented QBs in the draft, it is too bad.

Fuck Barkley though!

Too bad he has a terrible name.

This ain't Shakespeare. Nassib is not a superbowl winning QB's name.

Too bad his dad's name wasn't like Armstrong or Stanton.

 

[northwinds]

good, maybe in the meantime you can ask roger which nfl team should be your favorite, since you claim to like 3

So now its against the law to like 3 NFL teams........oh, I get it....you're one of those "my team" fans who walk around with the jersey of one team with some other person's name on the back......a grown man....with someone else's name on the clothing they are wearing.......

 

[Golden Spur]

I had to delete some posts, here. Northwinds, you raised an objectionable line of argument, and I think you know what I'm talking about. I'm going to ask you to leave off of that.

 

[IPostedWhat]

The fact that Barkley & Nassib are still undrafted, along with a few other QB's, makes me think that perhaps another team or teams were interested in Manuel, and the Bills had to act right away with the 16th pick?

That's what I'm going to tell myself anyways.

 

[Camfantasy]

lol at the bammers getting mad because lacy was the 4th tailback picked.

 

[tabascojet]

So even discussing race issues is now racist....hmmm interesting.

 

[Edisto_Tiger]

Way more relevant than straight line speed if you know what your looking for

I thoroughly enjoyed watching that. Great game. Instant classic!

 

[northwinds]

I had to delete some posts, here. Northwinds, you raised an objectionable line of argument, and I think you know what I'm talking about. I'm going to ask you to leave off of that.

Its "objectionable" to wonder why a guy with great measureables at the combine, including a 4.3 forty, and a great college career in "the greatest conference of all time" is getting completely disrespected by the NFL......and wondering why. Nobody here has been able to provide a reasonable answer.

 

[The Iron Horse]

Well, my Packers have ten picks in the next 4 rounds! Ted Thompson is always good to pull out a few good players late in the draft. But with so many picks, I don't see how they don't trade a couple for next season, cause i doubt all of the ten next picks will make the roster.

Wish there was a minor league for Football...it would be pretty cool.

 

[Edisto_Tiger]

Its "objectionable" to wonder why a guy with great measureables at the combine, including a 4.3 forty, and a great college career in "the greatest conference of all time" is getting completely disrespected by the NFL......and wondering why. Nobody here has been able to provide a reasonable answer.

What is it you want to hear?

The NFL is racist? They prefer their coaches white and their players black?

 

[Golden Spur]

Its "objectionable" to wonder why a guy with great measureables at the combine, including a 4.3 forty, and a great college career in "the greatest conference of all time" is getting completely disrespected by the NFL......and wondering why. Nobody here has been able to provide a reasonable answer.

They have guys that are paid well to evaluate talent. You can find breakdowns by googling (for example) "Ryan Swope draft". I looked here and here:

STRENGTHS: Sturdy frame with long arms and good muscular definition. Exhibits strong initial burst off the snap. Flexible hips to sink, burst and separate across the field. Displays strong awareness and anticipation of zone windows, and exhibits suddenness to flip, sit and locate the ball. Plucks the ball routinely, then looks it in and secures it before turning upfield. Fearless over the middle, and looks to extend plays after the catch. Possesses quick, agile feet and has a knack for shaking coverage with jukes and stabs.
Shows strong awareness of mismatches with linebackers and safeties, and possesses the 2nd level acceleration to beat either one. Tracks the ball well vertically, and adjusts his body nicely to throws off his frame. Effective 2nd-level cut-blocker when asked to support the run or quick WR screens. Consistently gives good effort to the whistle. Does not shy away from contact after the catch and flashes some power on contact to drag a defender.

WEAKNESSES: Struggles to break down and redirect rapidly, particularly when asked to plant and burst out of a pivot on underneath routes. Could be more physical against press, as he doesn't always utilize his solid frame to create space like he could. Isn't a real "burner", and relies more on quickness and fakes to create separation vertically. Will sit down and wait for the throw at times rather than drive back to the ball. Doesn't possess a huge "catch radius" and isn't a guy you can necessarily just throw it up to and rely on to go get it.

^^^They had him going between 2-4. I think he'll probably get taken next round.

 

[northwinds]

Way more relevant than straight line speed if you know what your looking for

Swope and Hopkins played against one common opponent in 2012....Auburn.....here is how they matched up against the same defense:

Swope: 6 catches; 140 yards; 23.3 ypc; 2 TDs

DeAndre: 13 castches; 119 yards; 9.2 ypc; 1 TD



One gets drafted in the first round......the other is making plans to be sell insurance.......

 

[Edisto_Tiger]

Swope and Hopkins played against one common opponent in 2012....Auburn.....here is how they matched up against the same defense:

Swope: 6 catches; 140 yards; 23.3 ypc; 2 TDs

DeAndre: 13 castches; 119 yards; 9.2 ypc; 1 TD



One gets drafted in the first round......the other is making plans to be sell insurance.......

why are you so butthurt over this? Let it go. Is he your brother? Do you have a vested interest? Then SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY!

 

[northwinds]

They have guys that are paid well to evaluate talent. You can find breakdowns by googling (for example) "Ryan Swope draft". I looked here and here:



^^^They had him going between 2-4. I think he'll probably get taken next round.

Are these the same experts that are paid millions.....and didn't think Wes Welker could play in the NFL.....
My favorite part about this "expert analysis" is when they say "Isn't a real "burner", and relies more on quickness"

They are talking about someone who ran a 4.28 forty at the combine

But thanks for proving my point

 

[Shanemansj13]

"You can't base a player on one game in their career!"

This is a pet peeve quote of mine.