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[Ritzarmy]

I had him at #29

Speaking of rankings. I have QB Savage ranked #17 while the #8-16 ranked QB's were still on the board.

 

[Nosferatu]

Houstons pick is in...


New York Jets are OTC

 

[Clayton]

I can respect that. Ford is a very controversial player in this draft. You either love him or hate him as a prospect. He has some injury red flags and yes the age thing is a bit of concern. I took him because of his pass rush ability that he adds to this team. You don't usually find pass rush talents like him at 31. Because this draft is so deep though there is a chance he would fall that far where most drafts he is a top 15 prospect. Pass rushers always get taken quickly as they are so hard to find. Yes he won't start year one because of Von and Ware on the team but Von's contract is almost up plus he is coming off a serious injury. Ware is probably a 2-year loan at this point in his career and is also coming off some serious injuries. Wolfe the next best pass rusher on the team is coming off a spinal injury that left most questioning if he would play again. Quanterus Smith is a nice prospect but nobody quite knows how he will be in the NFL. So the Broncos have a lot of question marks at the pass rush department.

Pass rushers are indeed always taken early. There is a reason why the Rams are being linked to Clowney and Barr at 2 atm even though pass rush is the strength of the team. Von Miller has always been a big wild card but I am under the opinion that he is one of the 10 most valuable players in the whole league when he plays. Denver pretty much has to keep him on the team as long as Miller still attempts to play in the NFL. I also really like Wolfe and Ware is at least a starting level player for the next 2 years.

I'm actually somewhere in the middle on Ford. I know he is a great talent. He gave Mizzou fits last year. I just think his upside is capped where it is right now which makes his fit based on which team he goes to. Imo, he is going to contribute in the NFL right away but he isn't going to be going to any pro bowls.

 

[cdumler7]

That is a nice pick for Houston. Gives them a guy that can grow for a year or two and possibly step in and start in the near future. He dominated at a lower competition and did well in the Senior Bowl/East West Shrine weeks if I remember right. If nothing else gives Houston some great depth at an important position.

 

[Nosferatu]

Speaking of rankings. I have QB Savage ranked #17 while the #8-16 ranked QB's were still on the board.

Any site that has Savage ranked 17th is IMO a joke. He is ranked 8th and 9th on the two sites I use.

I PM'd the Jets GM.

 

[Nosferatu]

Savage is big with a cannon for an arm, shows nice accuracy to all areas of the field and despite his inexperience, exhibits strong pocket presence and poise. Look for Savage to ascend draft boards if he convinces teams his well-traveled college days weren't an indication of a lack of commitment. His upside could be huge.

Big, tall strong-armed gunslinger who can make all the throws from the pocket, with a quick, fluid throwing motion. Could have the strongest arm in the 2014 class

There has been a nice buzz about Savage lately. Some are looking at him as a potential diamond in the rough as a mid-round pick. Savage has big size, pocket presence and a quality arm. He also hails from a pro-style offense. In 2013, the senior completed 61 percent of his passes for 2,958 yards with 21 touchdowns and nine interceptions.

Savage is on the radar of the quarterback-needy teams that are considering waiting to draft a quarterback until after the first round.

 

[pantherfanforever11]

Savage is big with a cannon for an arm, shows nice accuracy to all areas of the field and despite his inexperience, exhibits strong pocket presence and poise. Look for Savage to ascend draft boards if he convinces teams his well-traveled college days weren't an indication of a lack of commitment. His upside could be huge.

Big, tall strong-armed gunslinger who can make all the throws from the pocket, with a quick, fluid throwing motion. Could have the strongest arm in the 2014 class

There has been a nice buzz about Savage lately. Some are looking at him as a potential diamond in the rough as a mid-round pick. Savage has big size, pocket presence and a quality arm. He also hails from a pro-style offense. In 2013, the senior completed 61 percent of his passes for 2,958 yards with 21 touchdowns and nine interceptions.

Savage is on the radar of the quarterback-needy teams that are considering waiting to draft a quarterback until after the first round.

But it still begs to question, why did he transfer so much?

 

[Ritzarmy]

Any site that has Savage ranked 17th is IMO a joke. He is ranked 8th and 9th on the two sites I use.

I PM'd the Jets GM.

I'm guessing you are using Walter football as 1 site and they have him ranked him #8

 

[cdumler7]

Pass rushers are indeed always taken early. There is a reason why the Rams are being linked to Clowney and Barr at 2 atm even though pass rush is the strength of the team. Von Miller has always been a big wild card but I am under the opinion that he is one of the 10 most valuable players in the whole league when he plays. Denver pretty much has to keep him on the team as long as Miller still attempts to play in the NFL. I also really like Wolfe and Ware is at least a starting level player for the next 2 years.

I'm actually somewhere in the middle on Ford. I know he is a great talent. He gave Mizzou fits last year. I just think his upside is capped where it is right now which makes his fit based on which team he goes to. Imo, he is going to contribute in the NFL right away but he isn't going to be going to any pro bowls.

Oh I'm guessing the Broncos resign Miller. If he stays out of trouble they would be stupid not to as I agree with your thoughts on him. The problem is I'm not sure whether he can stay out of trouble or not. He is a lot less mature than I thought when the Broncos drafted him. He is a big reason the Broncos brought in Ware in hoping Ware can keep him on the right path.

On Ford this is where we differ. I think he still has some major room to grow. He has all the physical tools to dominate as a pass rusher just needs some work on the technical side of that. He really show cased that in the National Championship and at the Senior Bowl week where he dominated just on speed alone. This is where pairing him with Von and Ware should help greatly in teaching him the little things of the position. Plus like I said earlier the Nascar Package for the Broncos of Ware, Ford, and Miller would leave teams with their heads spinning. The Broncos in the Super Bowl had 0 pass rush (yes they had injuries that hindered that). I look at this as becoming the next great Giants DL where you have great depth so that the pass rush throughout the game remains constant. A great pass rush can cover up a lot of problems in the secondary. With Ford I just see him as a guy that maybe is only in on say 40-50% of the snaps his rookie year but those snaps are ones that he can be a game changer with his speed off the edge. Then once Ware is done still gives the Broncos a great 1-2 punch of Von and Ford off the edge. Plus the Broncos spend about 50% of their base defensive snaps in a 3-4 defense so I think he still fits what the Broncos want on defense.

 

[pantherfanforever11]

Any site that has Savage ranked 17th is IMO a joke. He is ranked 8th and 9th on the two sites I use.

I PM'd the Jets GM.

i think depending on the answers he give as far as why he transfered so much will determine where is at in all boards. if his answers are doctored GM's are going to see that and prolly knock him. this is a guy that if he had stayed at Rutgers we are prolly talkin bout him as a 1st or second round pick at worst. he has that kind of talent. but if he jumped around cause he doesnt like being tied down, or he doesnt like the location that much, or he didnt like the playbook or the coaching staff what happens if he doesnt like the playbook location or coaching of the team that drafts him? your looking at a potential problem if you do not have all the facts.

 

[cdumler7]

i think depending on the answers he give as far as why he transfered so much will determine where is at in all boards. if his answers are doctored GM's are going to see that and prolly knock him. this is a guy that if he had stayed at Rutgers we are prolly talkin bout him as a 1st or second round pick at worst. he has that kind of talent. but if he jumped around cause he doesnt like being tied down, or he doesnt like the location that much, or he didnt like the playbook or the coaching staff what happens if he doesnt like the playbook location or coaching of the team that drafts him? your looking at a potential problem if you do not have all the facts.

I would say even more important than his interviews will be the phone calls made to all those previous teams and what they saw in the kid. If they speak half way highly of him even after he transferred then I could see him jumping up draft boards. If they say he butted heads with the coaches and was a real problem in the locker room then he could just as easily go undrafted.

 

[Nosferatu]

But it still begs to question, why did he transfer so much?

Might have been some maturity issues there but lets hope he's grown up. He's tough, has a cannon for an arm, played in a pro style offense. I think he's got some upside.

 

[pantherfanforever11]

Might have been some maturity issues there but lets hope he's grown up. He's tough, has a cannon for an arm, played in a pro style offense. I think he's got some upside.

i agree he has some good upside. i think he one of top qb's in this draft if he had stuck at Rutgers

 

[cdumler7]

A little off topic but just saw a screen shot of the Raiders 1st round picks for the last 10 years and the players taken the very next pick and man the Raiders could have an all-star team right now.


DJ Hayden--Sheldon Richardson (RDPOY)
Rolando McClain--CJ Spiller
DHB--Eugene Monroe
Darren McFadden--Glen Dorsey
JaMarcus Russell--Calvin Johnson
Michael Huff--Donte Whitner
Fabian Washington--Aaron Rodgers
Robert Gallery--Larry Fitzgerald


Now given they couldn't afford all of these players still being on the same team but just imagine Rodgers throwing to Fitzgerald and Johnson with CJ Spiller in the back field.

 

[pantherfanforever11]

I would say even more important than his interviews will be the phone calls made to all those previous teams and what they saw in the kid. If they speak half way highly of him even after he transferred then I could see him jumping up draft boards. If they say he butted heads with the coaches and was a real problem in the locker room then he could just as easily go undrafted.

i was assuming that you would talk to those programs as part of your process. but what im refering to is deeper than just the interview at combine and stuff. i was meaning a real conversation over dinner or something where he is relaxed and not towing company line...

 

[Ritzarmy]

Might have been some maturity issues there but lets hope he's grown up. He's tough, has a cannon for an arm, played in a pro style offense. I think he's got some upside.

Then what's your excuse Nos. Maturity issues, no arm, not grown up, and wasn't allowed to play in any offense

 

[Nosferatu]

A little off topic but just saw a screen shot of the Raiders 1st round picks for the last 10 years and the players taken the very next pick and man the Raiders could have an all-star team right now.


DJ Hayden--Sheldon Richardson (RDPOY)
Rolando McClain--CJ Spiller
DHB--Eugene Monroe
Darren McFadden--Glen Dorsey
JaMarcus Russell--Calvin Johnson
Michael Huff--Donte Whitner
Fabian Washington--Aaron Rodgers
Robert Gallery--Larry Fitzgerald


Now given they couldn't afford all of these players still being on the same team but just imagine Rodgers throwing to Fitzgerald and Johnson with CJ Spiller in the back field.

Thats pretty crazy but obviously if they had a couple of those guys they wouldnt have drafted in the same spot the following seasons.

 

[Nosferatu]

Then what's your excuse Nos. Maturity issues, no arm, not grown up, and wasn't allowed to play in any offense

That actually made me laugh out loud at work!

 

[Ritzarmy]

I aim to please. On my future grave stone "I don't care if they laughed at me or with me as long as people were laughing is all that matters".

 

[cdumler7]

Thats pretty crazy but obviously if they had a couple of those guys they wouldnt have drafted in the same spot the following seasons.

Obviously. Just goes to show how much one pick can make a difference.