None Shall Pass...

[TKOSpikes]

Wow.
No one picked Dougernaut yet? (Not even me.) IDK? 4 years in the league and 2 subpar seasons. His lack of consistency may indicate that he's due for disappointment. I may have to change my list?

And all of you ('cept Treff) took AP? The RB landscape changes but AP always seems to be in the mix.
And no one picked Bell? Not a good thing to have knee and doobie issues so young in your career.

Yup. Went back and forth between DJ and Dougie. You're making me think I made the wrong choice.

 

[leftypower]

I'm really hoping those who pick Dez, Jeffery and Johnson are wrong. ..... obviously for selfish reasons.

 

[TREFF]

Didn't Emmitt & LaDainian go to different/better teams to extend their careers? Yes.

Ughh..yes, although it's debatable wether the 2010-'11 Jets were a better team than the Chargers were (11-5 vs 9-7, and 8-8 vs 8-8).

AP no longer has the Cowboys as a good landing spot for '17

 

[MilkSpiller22]

the running backs, I don't see any of them leaving the top 12 unless they get hurt... and AD is one of the most likely to get hurt solely because of his age...

The WRs, I made my picks factoring in whether I think the players will have a target increase or decrease...

And I see major decreases in the 5 WRs of Allen, Marshall, Robinson, Jeffrey, Hopkins,

and then I have injury concerns with Bryant and Nelson...

If Jacksonville's defense becomes anything, then Robinson might not even bet top 15...
same thing with Hopkins, don't forget that Houston's D sucked in the beginning of last season...

 

[averagejoe]

And I see major decreases in the 5 WRs of Allen, Marshall, Robinson, Jeffrey, Hopkins,

Sometimes, I like to play the "opposite" game. Just as it is unlikely that a player has another "great" season, the same can be said for injury-plagued seasons.
Allen and Jeffery are already coming off injury seasons from 2015, so this could be "healthy" season.
Personally I don't trust Jeffery. But I also trust Langford and Carey less. I think the Bears find themselves passing more than they should IMO.

 

[SmokingMonkey]

Sometimes, I like to play the "opposite" game. Just as it is unlikely that a player has another "great" season, the same can be said for injury-plagued seasons.
Allen and Jeffery are already coming off injury seasons from 2015, so this could be "healthy" season.
Personally I don't trust Jeffery. But I also trust Langford and Carey less. I think the Bears find themselves passing more than they should IMO.

and don't forget - whichever WR Cutler has a boner for, consider them a lock for top 10 fantasy production.
It's happened with lesser WRs than Jeffery.

 

[ehb5]

I picked ap just because he was the oldest rb there. Just makes it more likely he falls off a cliff.

 

[ehb5]

the running backs, I don't see any of them leaving the top 12 unless they get hurt... and AD is one of the most likely to get hurt solely because of his age...

The WRs, I made my picks factoring in whether I think the players will have a target increase or decrease...

And I see major decreases in the 5 WRs of Allen, Marshall, Robinson, Jeffrey, Hopkins,

and then I have injury concerns with Bryant and Nelson...

If Jacksonville's defense becomes anything, then Robinson might not even bet top 15...
same thing with Hopkins, don't forget that Houston's D sucked in the beginning of last season...

I'm curious why you think Allens targets will fall so heavily.

 

[The Foot]

RBs - Bell, Johnson, Gurly, Peterson, Freeman, McCoy

Wrs - Brown, OBJ, Jones, Hopkins, Marshall

 

[jwolt92]

RBs:
Gurley, Elliot, Martin, Peterson, Charles, Miller

WRs:
Brown, Jones, Green, Allen, Hopkins, Nelson

My lack of basic reading skills lead me to do this the wrong way. So these are the 6 of each that I think WILL be in the top 12

 

[averagejoe]

To my fellow MBBRL members...

Looked at our drafts (in the KOTF league) specifically (since the history is kept on ESPN), and regarding the theme of this thread here are the horrid results for the RB and WR:

2013
RB = 5 of 12 (42%)
WR = 6 of 12 (50%)

2014
RB = 8 of 12 (67%)
WR = 6 of 12 (50%)

2015
RB = 3 of 12 (25%)
WR = 6 of 12 (50%)

3-Year Average
RB = 16 of 36 (44%)
WR = 18 of 36 (50%)

Note: In both 2014 and 2015, the first WR off the board failed to finish in the top 12. In 2014 it was Megatron (Fuzzies), and in 2015 it was Dez Bryant (Milk).
Note2: In 2014, despite the impressive 8 of 12 RB finish, the first 3 RB drafted failed to crack the top 12. (McCoy, AP, and Ball).


Just thought you'd like to know.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I'm curious why you think Allens targets will fall so heavily.

first off, i am talking about per game... OF course playing 16 games he would get the targets...

BUT they have already said they want to get Melvin Gordon into the game more... so i do expect the team in whole to throw less than they did last season... I also think that Rivers will spread the ball more...

 

[HaroldSeattle]

To my fellow MBBRL members...

Looked at our drafts (in the KOTF league) specifically (since the history is kept on ESPN), and regarding the theme of this thread here are the horrid results for the RB and WR:

2013
RB = 5 of 12 (42%)
WR = 6 of 12 (50%)

2014
RB = 8 of 12 (67%)
WR = 6 of 12 (50%)

2015
RB = 3 of 12 (25%)
WR = 6 of 12 (50%)

3-Year Average
RB = 16 of 36 (44%)
WR = 18 of 36 (50%)

Note: In both 2014 and 2015, the first WR off the board failed to finish in the top 12. In 2014 it was Megatron (Fuzzies), and in 2015 it was Dez Bryant (Milk).
Note2: In 2014, despite the impressive 8 of 12 RB finish, the first 3 RB drafted failed to crack the top 12. (McCoy, AP, and Ball).


Just thought you'd like to know.

Like to see you do a study of RBs that aren't in a committe situation. Seems to be a shrinking group, there fore more valuable .

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Like to see you do a study of RBs that aren't in a committe situation. Seems to be a shrinking group, there fore more valuable .

Also a graph showing the influx of WR2 in the NFL, seems to be a growing group. So much so that one shouldn't even worry about finding one

 

[TREFF]

To my fellow MBBRL members...

Looked at our drafts (in the KOTF league) specifically (since the history is kept on ESPN), and regarding the theme of this thread here are the horrid results for the RB and WR:

2013
RB = 5 of 12 (42%)
WR = 6 of 12 (50%)

2014
RB = 8 of 12 (67%)
WR = 6 of 12 (50%)

2015
RB = 3 of 12 (25%)
WR = 6 of 12 (50%)

3-Year Average
RB = 16 of 36 (44%)
WR = 18 of 36 (50%)

Note: In both 2014 and 2015, the first WR off the board failed to finish in the top 12. In 2014 it was Megatron (Fuzzies), and in 2015 it was Dez Bryant (Milk).
Note2: In 2014, despite the impressive 8 of 12 RB finish, the first 3 RB drafted failed to crack the top 12. (McCoy, AP, and Ball).


Just thought you'd like to know.

Ughh..friggin Ball...I'll never ever live that down, nor should i

 

[SteelersPride]

Jamaal Charles, Devonte Freeman, mcoy, lacy, EE, Gurley

Arob, Jordy, B march, Dez, Alshon. greem

 

[ehb5]

first off, i am talking about per game... OF course playing 16 games he would get the targets...

BUT they have already said they want to get Melvin Gordon into the game more... so i do expect the team in whole to throw less than they did last season... I also think that Rivers will spread the ball more...

I figured you meant per game. I guess that is possible and he was getting a TON of targets last year so theres plenty of room for them to go down. If they do go down I don't think it'll be by much.

 

[averagejoe]

Like to see you do a study of RBs that aren't in a committe situation. Seems to be a shrinking group, there fore more valuable .

Also a graph showing the influx of WR2 in the NFL, seems to be a growing group. So much so that one shouldn't even worry about finding one

Are you giving me homework?

How about this point of reference instead:

• Again, going back to our MBBRL KOTF drafts, in 2013 all 12 RB were drafted within the first 16 picks. (The other 4 were 3 WR and 1 QB.)
• In 2014, all 12 RB were drafted in the first 18 picks. (The other 6 were 5 WR and 1 TE not named Gronk.)
• In 2015, the 12 RB were finally assembled in the first 25 picks! (The others were 10 WR, 2 QB and 1 TE.)

Do you se a trend here?

Ughh..friggin Ball...I'll never ever live that down, nor should i

For the record, I never mentioned your name above.

 

[averagejoe]

Like to see you do a study of RBs that aren't in a committe situation. Seems to be a shrinking group, there fore more valuable .

Just reflecting on this request, I kind of already have these numbers. I have all of the carries of each team for every player which I use in my "usage" percentages.
The quandary is, since every RB gets spelled for a breather, what criteria will determine "non-committee?"
Percentage of carries only?
Percentage of carries plus receptions?
And what is the window of these percentages? Greater than 60%? Greater than 70%?

Remember this from a few weeks ago?

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Talk to me.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Oh yeah.....you already did this.