No salary cap for Goodell

[charlie42s]

Goodell made $44 million in 2012. The funniest comment in the ESPN article was by Marc Ganis.

"The NFL owners are paying this," Ganis said. "Not the players and not the fans."

Where did the NFL owners get the money to pay Goodell? It didn't come off of a tree, it came from the fans who bought tickets or NFL merchandise.

 

[RoboticDreams]

Not trying to be a jerk but...

http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/detroit-lions/139046-goddell-paid-44-2-million-last-year.html

 

[antone112]

Game is more popular than ever. The owners seem to think he had something to do with it. It's their money.

 

[Podunkparte]

I hope he pays taxes on that.... oh wait

 

[charlie42s]

I hope he pays taxes on that.... oh wait

He pays taxes, but the NFL doesn't. It's tax exempt.

 

[Stevein2012]

Why do people get upset by this? When you work for billionaires and they think you are doing a good job helping them make money then you make money lol.

 

[Mondio]

Why do people get upset by this? When you work for billionaires and they think you are doing a good job helping them make money then you make money lol.

People get upset because it's the age old struggle. Sure he works for Billionaires, so do the guys cleaning toilets. Everyone from the Commish thru the players and coaches, to the guy cleaning toilets works for billionaires. They are all important. They all want a piece of the pie. If there is no league, there are no stadiums, team names, logos, no jersey sales, no tv contracts for players to put on their display every week, etc.

If there are no players, there's nothing to put on the fields, nobody to put on the jersey, nobody to put on a show. No coaches? nobody to turn these athletes into a watchable show, no tv contracts to watch a bunch of guys running around hapazardly. We can do that in our backyards.

No toilet cleaners? Nobody is going to fill that stadium if they have to wade thru a thousand gallons of piss and shit to catch the game.

All these guys want their money and how do you divide it up? There's a lot to go around as everyone above the people that keep a stadium operating seem to make a pretty good living, maybe they could give us fans a break and lower ticket prices? Going to a game is great, having to drop a grand between hotel, food and tickets for the family sucks

Who's right?

 

[antone112]

People get upset because it's the age old struggle. Sure he works for Billionaires, so do the guys cleaning toilets. Everyone from the Commish thru the players and coaches, to the guy cleaning toilets works for billionaires. They are all important. They all want a piece of the pie. If there is no league, there are no stadiums, team names, logos, no jersey sales, no tv contracts for players to put on their display every week, etc.

If there are no players, there's nothing to put on the fields, nobody to put on the jersey, nobody to put on a show. No coaches? nobody to turn these athletes into a watchable show, no tv contracts to watch a bunch of guys running around hapazardly. We can do that in our backyards.

No toilet cleaners? Nobody is going to fill that stadium if they have to wade thru a thousand gallons of piss and shit to catch the game.

All these guys want their money and how do you divide it up? There's a lot to go around as everyone above the people that keep a stadium operating seem to make a pretty good living, maybe they could give us fans a break and lower ticket prices? Going to a game is great, having to drop a grand between hotel, food and tickets for the family sucks

Who's right?

If people are that upset about it, they should quit giving them their money. The owners earned it, it's theirs, they can do what they want with it.

 

[JDM]

He pays taxes, but the NFL doesn't. It's tax exempt.

This is kind of misrepresented. The NFL exists solely as an entity to handle league contracts (TV, merchandise, whatever) and pay salaries of league officials like Goodell. It's non profit because all of the money is redirected to each of the teams, not to any shareholders or anything, and teams are taxed on their own profits, which includes all the money that comes through the NFL entity. If the NFL were also taxed, owners would be double taxed on nearly all of their revenue, and since the actual expenses almost all come through the actual teams (salaries, stadiums, etc), they would get hit extremely hard. They'd basically pay tax on all their revenue, then again on all their profit, although they likely wouldn't make much in that case.

 

[cwood]

People get upset because it's the age old struggle. Sure he works for Billionaires, so do the guys cleaning toilets. Everyone from the Commish thru the players and coaches, to the guy cleaning toilets works for billionaires. They are all important. They all want a piece of the pie. If there is no league, there are no stadiums, team names, logos, no jersey sales, no tv contracts for players to put on their display every week, etc.

If there are no players, there's nothing to put on the fields, nobody to put on the jersey, nobody to put on a show. No coaches? nobody to turn these athletes into a watchable show, no tv contracts to watch a bunch of guys running around hapazardly. We can do that in our backyards.

No toilet cleaners? Nobody is going to fill that stadium if they have to wade thru a thousand gallons of piss and shit to catch the game.

All these guys want their money and how do you divide it up? There's a lot to go around as everyone above the people that keep a stadium operating seem to make a pretty good living, maybe they could give us fans a break and lower ticket prices? Going to a game is great, having to drop a grand between hotel, food and tickets for the family sucks

Who's right?

It's extremely easy to find someone to clean toilets. Not so easy to find a competent commissioner. And your ticket prices wouldn't go down by a penny even if Goodell agreed to work for free. Teams charge a lot because fans are willing to pay a lot. The people upset by his salary are wrong and those who don't care are right. Lol, glad we got that settled.

 

[CaptainStubing]

Not trying to be a jerk but...

http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/detroit-lions/139046-goddell-paid-44-2-million-last-year.html

nobody goes into the Lions forum. it shouldn't have been posted there anyway. this is general nfl news.

anyway, regarding the topic, the owners can pay him whatever they want. i agree with antone. if it pisses you off. stop buying tickets, merchandise, etc.

i guarantee we all buy different products every day from companies whose CEO's make more than goodell. we just don't know about it because it's not as publicized.

 

[antone112]

Not trying to be a jerk but...

http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/detroit-lions/139046-goddell-paid-44-2-million-last-year.html

You go on that board alone, your liable to get mugged and/or raped.

 

[RegentDenali]

I got no problem with his salary. Due to the labor issues, the league was forced to open up about it's books. With it valued at over 6 billion dollars, that's a pretty normal salary when you dealing with that type of revenue generation.

The problem I have with him is that he's reactionary and it bleeds down into everything dealing with rules and all facets of the game and business. To put a pretty face on everything, they're throwing money out at all kinds of stupid, and driving up the costs that's passed off to the fans.

They're obsession with putting a team in London is soo fucking stupid. They should be more concerned with the health of franchises in cities like Jacksonville and Cleveland which are really struggling.

Instead of leaving a lot of the game alone because it's perfect the way it is, they're constantly fucking with it to squeeze out more revenue. It's like everything is pushed through some marketing focus group to make critical decisions that greatly impact the game and it's fanbase.

 

[R.J. MacReady]

I got no problem with his salary. Due to the labor issues, the league was forced to open up about it's books. With it valued at over 6 billion dollars, that's a pretty normal salary when you dealing with that type of revenue generation.

The problem I have with him is that he's reactionary and it bleeds down into everything dealing with rules and all facets of the game and business. To put a pretty face on everything, they're throwing money out at all kinds of stupid, and driving up the costs that's passed off to the fans.

They're obsession with putting a team in London is soo fucking stupid. They should be more concerned with the health of franchises in cities like Jacksonville and Cleveland which are really struggling.

Instead of leaving a lot of the game alone because it's perfect the way it is, they're constantly fucking with it to squeeze out more revenue. It's like everything is pushed through some marketing focus group to make critical decisions that greatly impact the game and it's fanbase.

You have to understand that "growth" is the engine that drives all Corporations.

 

[NinerSickness]

Goodell pays taxes, each team pays taxes, they pay sales tax in-state, state income taxes, property taxes at the stadiums (pretty sure)... can't think of anything else.

But income taxes are a fallacy anyway. There's really no such thing. All income taxes are baked into the cost of hiring an employee and passed onto the customer. If an employer wants to get a more valuable employee the incentive is the NET income not the gross; the taxes are paid by whoever generates the revenue. It's something people don't understand for some reason. Do you really think corporations pay taxes either? No. Their customers do.

All taxes are sales taxes (except estate, capitol gains & property taxes). So your cell phone cost is taxed at a rate of 46.4% (plus sales tax). If you buy a beer 56.2% of that cost is taxes (plus sales tax). Gas? 51.2%. Eating out - 44.8%. Etc, etc.

So Goodell technically pays taxes, but in actuality he doesn't. The TV networks pay his taxes, which are passed onto their advertiser, which are passed onto those companies' customers.

 

[NinerSickness]

Goodell pays taxes, each team pays taxes, they pay sales tax in-state, state income taxes, property taxes at the stadiums (pretty sure)... can't think of anything else.

But income taxes are a fallacy anyway. There's really no such thing. All income taxes are baked into the cost of hiring an employee and passed onto the customer. If an employer wants to get a more valuable employee the incentive is the NET income not the gross; the taxes are paid by whoever generates the revenue. It's something people don't understand for some reason. Do you really think corporations pay taxes either? No. Their customers do.

All income taxes are sales taxes (except estate, capitol gains & property taxes). So your cell phone cost is taxed at a rate of 46.4% (plus sales tax). If you buy a beer 56.2% of that cost is taxes (plus sales tax). Gas? 51.2%. Eating out - 44.8%. Etc, etc.

So Goodell technically pays taxes, but in actuality he doesn't. The TV networks pay his taxes, which are passed onto their advertiser, which are passed onto those companies' customers.

 

[JDM]

I got no problem with his salary. Due to the labor issues, the league was forced to open up about it's books. With it valued at over 6 billion dollars, that's a pretty normal salary when you dealing with that type of revenue generation.

The problem I have with him is that he's reactionary and it bleeds down into everything dealing with rules and all facets of the game and business. To put a pretty face on everything, they're throwing money out at all kinds of stupid, and driving up the costs that's passed off to the fans.

They're obsession with putting a team in London is soo fucking stupid. They should be more concerned with the health of franchises in cities like Jacksonville and Cleveland which are really struggling.

Instead of leaving a lot of the game alone because it's perfect the way it is, they're constantly fucking with it to squeeze out more revenue. It's like everything is pushed through some marketing focus group to make critical decisions that greatly impact the game and it's fanbase.

Valued at $6 billion? They draw somewhere between 9-10 billion annually. The total value of the teams is estimated by Forbes at somewhere between 35-40 billion. The actual entity of the league itself has essentially no value, but the value in the league as a whole is a lot more than 6 billion.

 

[NinerSickness]

Oops. Sorry about the double post.

 

[Stevein2012]

People get upset because it's the age old struggle. Sure he works for Billionaires, so do the guys cleaning toilets. Everyone from the Commish thru the players and coaches, to the guy cleaning toilets works for billionaires. They are all important. They all want a piece of the pie. If there is no league, there are no stadiums, team names, logos, no jersey sales, no tv contracts for players to put on their display every week, etc.

If there are no players, there's nothing to put on the fields, nobody to put on the jersey, nobody to put on a show. No coaches? nobody to turn these athletes into a watchable show, no tv contracts to watch a bunch of guys running around hapazardly. We can do that in our backyards.

No toilet cleaners? Nobody is going to fill that stadium if they have to wade thru a thousand gallons of piss and shit to catch the game.

All these guys want their money and how do you divide it up? There's a lot to go around as everyone above the people that keep a stadium operating seem to make a pretty good living, maybe they could give us fans a break and lower ticket prices? Going to a game is great, having to drop a grand between hotel, food and tickets for the family sucks

Who's right?

They get a piece of the pie, I doubt the guy that cleans toilets at the stadium is doing it for free. Goodell does a job that his bosses think is worth 44m dollars so that's what he makes, same with the toilet guy making whatever he makes. I don't think Goodell's salary has much of a correlation to ticket prices anyway so it seems like a weak reason to be mad about it.

 

[NinerSickness]

They get a piece of the pie, I doubt the guy that cleans toilets at the stadium is doing it for free. Goodell does a job that his bosses think is worth 44m dollars so that's what he makes, same with the toilet guy making whatever he makes. I don't think Goodell's salary has much of a correlation to ticket prices anyway so it seems like a weak reason to be mad about it.

Ticket prices are a drop in the bucket. Networkis dollars are the vast majority of the NFL's revenue.

Oh and why would it possibly bug someone that Goodell makes a bunch of money? I don't understand that. Everyone in the NFL makes a bunch of money as far as I'm concerned, but they earned it.