No 1st Rounders NFL Draft : CHAT

[Nosferatu]

ROUND 13
13.1.97 : WLK : Dave Casper - TE
13.2.98 : 500 : Jim Ringo - C
13.3.99 : UK : Brandon Marshall - WR
13.4.100 : Milk :
13.5.101 : Ritz :
13.6.102 : Jeffro :
13.7.103 : Gold :
13.8.104 : Nos :

 

[UK Cowboy]

Not at all true, Revis has shut down Moss on his own and would have done the same to Rice. Calvin has played against Revis 3 times and never scored.

Lol, name a corner Hudson played against. Since he was the first big play WR, the lockdown corner hadn't been created. And Revis got help against those guys over the top a lot of times, at least that I've seen

 

[Nosferatu]

Coverage is often rolled to the side of the best receiver. What difference does it make who covered Hutson, point is he dominated his competition more than any receiver who has ever played.

 

[Ritzarmy]

Why is it right before I pick milk disappears for hours?

 

[Nosferatu]

Why is it right before I pick milk disappears for hours?

 

[Ritzarmy]

I normally wouldn't care since I left my list with Nos but then I realized he never remembers to pick for me Useless as a wet noodle in a gun fight.

 

[wlk3]

Well, Direct TV already sucks! When I talked to the guy and ordered it there were two reasons I decided to get it, NFL Ticket & Fox Sports North, he said I would have both. I found out today I don't have FSN and can't get it!!!

I don't get the 4 games the Lakers play vs New Orleans for some reason even though I have league pass... Even when it was on fan night on NBA TV for free I didn't get it... I need to get FSS or some foolishness I don't/can't get... Should have told me you were getting direct tv, we both could have gotten $10 bucks off per month if you said I referred you...

 

[Gold Rush 86]

Which honestly makes ZERO sense...

Jim Brown was 6'2 230 he would be fine playing in today's NFL even though when he played guys were smaller. I have no doubt in my mind he would be right up there with AP as the top 2 RBs in the league. Now Hutson was 6'1 183 I just don't seem him dominating in today's NFL with size and strength. He would have to be a good route runner and be fast. This is just my opinion and it's different from urs but I don't see him being anything better than a Julian Edelman type of player. Not saying Edelman is bad he is a good players but I wouldn't have him in my top 10 for WRs.

 

[Nosferatu]

Jim Brown was great but Leroy Kelly came in and did just as good as he did when Brown retired. What receiver did what Hutson did? Brown was just bigger and faster than most of the people trying to tackle him, that wouldn't be the case in today's game...

 

[Gold Rush 86]

Jim Brown was great but Leroy Kelly came in and did just as good as he did when Brown retired. What receiver did what Hutson did? Brown was just bigger and faster than most of the people trying to tackle him, that wouldn't be the case in today's game...

So you wanna say Brown wouldn't be as good today cuz the players are bigger and faster but not for Hutson? Let's Hutson go up against Revis or Sherman and watch him get shutdown. Jim Brown was bigger than AP. I think Brown would be running over and through tackles like he was Lynch in today's NFL.

 

[Ritzarmy]

Well I gave my list to nos and UK since milk isn't picking. They can select at 9:45 for me that's when milk will be skipped.

 

[Nosferatu]

Jeffro has been sent a text...

 

[jeffro151]

@Gold Rush 86 OTC

 

[jeffro151]

I can't believe I am the last person to pick a TE, and I'm still going to able to get a HOFer.

 

[Nosferatu]

So you wanna say Brown wouldn't be as good today cuz the players are bigger and faster but not for Hutson? Let's Hutson go up against Revis or Sherman and watch him get shutdown. Jim Brown was bigger than AP. I think Brown would be running over and through tackles like he was Lynch in today's NFL.

Show me where I said that, what we have seen is you say Brown would dominate in today's game and Hutson wouldn't without any solid proof. Hutson dominated the game as much if not more than Brown did in his time. It's foolish to say Brown would dominate because of his size but Hutson would get shut down, there is just no logic in what you are saying. Go look at footage of Brown running through arm tackles of Bob Smith the 180 linebacker who never lifted a weight in his life and who bagged groceries in the off season. Then lets wonder if he would do the same to a linebacker whos just as big and just as fast as he is, ummm no...

EDIT... Also what does size have to do with cornerbacks? Corners are still 5'11 - 6'1 and 180 - 210 pounds, it's not like the guys covering Hutson were 5'6 150 and Hutson's game wasn't built on the fact that we was simply bigger and stronger than everyone, he was just better.

 

[Gold Rush 86]

Show me where I said that, what we have seen is you say Brown would dominate in today's game and Hutson wouldn't without any solid proof. Hutson dominated the game as much if not more than Brown did in his time. It's foolish to say Brown would dominate because of his size but Hutson would get shut down, there is just no logic in what you are saying. Go look at footage of Brown running through arm tackles of Bob Smith the 180 linebacker who never lifted a weight in his life and who bagged groceries in the off season. Then lets wonder if he would do the same to a linebacker whos just as big and just as fast as he is, ummm no...

EDIT... Also what does size have to do with cornerbacks? Corners are still 5'11 - 6'1 and 180 - 210 pounds, it's not like the guys covering Hutson were 5'6 150 and Hutson's game wasn't built on the fact that we was simply bigger and stronger than everyone, he was just better.

It's just how I feel and we can tell by ur answer you don't think Brown would be running guys over in today's league and I think he still would. Brown had size, speed and power. It's not his fault guys were 180 pounds and even if they were 220-250 pound LBs and I think he would still be the best RB in the league and AP would be 2nd. Now Hutson was way before his time when all teams did was run. Yes he dominated as a WR in what was a running league in the 30s and 40s. But I don't see him playing in today's NFL and even being close to what he was in the 30s and 40s. I feel cornerbacks today would shut him down.

 

[Gold Rush 86]

We can't have proof for any of this. This whole mock draft is just all our opinions. In my opinion Barry is the greatest RB ever and u think its Walter. Those are just our opinions and opinions are like assholes everyone has one.

 

[Gold Rush 86]

Also have a question and I don't think it was answered yet. Are we drafting 2 RBs or a RB and FB? Cuz it's listed as 2 RBs.

 

[Nosferatu]

We can take 2 backs 2 FB's 2 RB's 1 RB and 1 FB whatever you want.

 

[Nosferatu]

We can't have proof for any of this. This whole mock draft is just all our opinions. In my opinion Barry is the greatest RB ever and u think its Walter. Those are just our opinions and opinions are like assholes everyone has one.

I respect your opinion I just don't agree with it, IMO Walter was a much better RB and it's not close and I used facts to show why I think the way I do. The only fact Barry supporters have is he could make people miss better than anyone... But my opinions shouldn't be taken as a personal attack, I just love talking sports with people who have different opinions.