I think it helped that while he signed a nice deal he did not go after last dollar. Guessing he just told his agent to get it done and, yes, Browns were willing to pay more than they'd usually like to for a RB for a guy like Chubb.
When it goes it goes in a hurry for most guys. That’s why you see all this panic at the RB position of guys wanting to get value for their work. They know what’s lurking around the corner.
He's OK. Thought that Hard Knocks speech was way overblown. A lot of dumb penalties and key drops it seemed.... and would have been nice if he was the leader many thought he was to have gotten his BFF to buy in.
I don’t know about that assessment. This is likely his last chance at a big signing bonus. These things can go sideways in a hurry. Player believes he’s worth X and has paid his dues. Team has different idea of value. Player feels insulted. Player gets out on the market and comes to find out the team was right about value all along. Then Pride sets in and they take what the original team offered or even less (CJGJ with the Eagles this season) to play for someone else.
I'd like to keep it at 2 years. Maybe 3 if maybe less money/yr.
I've definitely seen that happen a lot.....for us the one that sticks out is Mitchell Schwartz.
The best things these players can do for themselves is to make themselves integral to the culture of the team. When they achieve that, it makes that negotiation so much easier to be successful.
something like 3 years and 21-24 mil could work where we could get out of it after 2 maybe (so maybe $12-15 mil guarantee)?
Yes!!! .......and that is why I could see them going a little further for Chubb than they would most players (even as a RB).
I could also see it being front loaded in such a way where they are looking at the player being cheaper in the final year or someone who is easy to part with so the cap hit isn’t a big hit. The deal might average 10 over 3 years but it really looks like 14,10,6 per year to get to the 30 million.
Running behind the same OL Hunt has averaged 4.2 over his time in Cleveland. I get some people will want to take away from Chubb by pointing to a plus OL but proof is right there in the stat. .8 yards per carry more is a big difference in reality when judging a back’s effectiveness.
we do like doing those deals where it's league minimum year 1......though that might only be for huge deals.
and as fightin said would think there are not many better for the culture a team would want.
I understand the structure that you’re talking about. It’s very popular among teams. Most of the time these deals come with signing bonus of guaranteed money. When you look at the cap ledger, it’s a really small salary but at the same time, a big hunk of the bonus is immediately applied to the cap so that they can get the guaranteed money off the cap sooner and it gives the flexibility later in the contract to make a move.
