NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[thunderc]

The streak is over

It was time

 

[fightinfunbags]

roll it lol

You have to think there’s a plan for the money. They’re either looking to bolster a few positions or they’re looking to redo someone and take the extra room and apply signing bonus to this calendar year. You don’t create room for the sake of creating room.

 

[Shanemansj13]

What do you think is the plan for the extra cash?

Build the worlds largest ice tub

 

[wildturkey]

Said it last season, but worth repeating. The guy playing Larry Bird on Winning Time is really good at being Larry Bird

 

[Black Adam]

Said it last season, but worth repeating. The guy playing Larry Bird on Winning Time is really good at being Larry Bird

Lol yeah, that cat was kind of a dick...

 

[Stakesarehigh]

You have to think there’s a plan for the money. They’re either looking to bolster a few positions or they’re looking to redo someone and take the extra room and apply signing bonus to this calendar year. You don’t create room for the sake of creating room.

it's obviously a pretty complex financial situation but they are still 52 mil to the bad versus next years cap. I'm guessing they will see what they can do to keep Amari around if they want to do so but with the 34 and cutting him post June next year they'd slide in under the current cap for next year but eat an additional 10 over the next 2 years (I think)

Chubb would be the extension most on their mind I'd think though. But he is 29 after 2024. Things don't go great from there for Rbs typically.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Additionally in Bitonios case it drives his dead cap cost way up in future years which pretty much earmarks him to be on this team beyond the length of his current deal.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Well, the Commanders are currently losing to the Ravens backups with most of their offensive starters playing the entire first half.

But, the bright side is that Howell actually looks pretty decent.

Hopefully I’m wrong on that one.

They won the game.

 

[fightinfunbags]

it's obviously a pretty complex financial situation but they are still 52 mil to the bad versus next years cap. I'm guessing they will see what they can do to keep Amari around if they want to do so but with the 34 and cutting him post June next year they'd slide in under the current cap for next year but eat an additional 10 over the next 2 years (I think)

Chubb would be the extension most on their mind I'd think though. But he is 29 after 2024. Things don't go great from there for Rbs typically.

It’s actually not super hard to clear 52 mil next year. I just don’t see the move to clear cap and then not allocate it somewhere.

 

[tlance]

it's obviously a pretty complex financial situation but they are still 52 mil to the bad versus next years cap. I'm guessing they will see what they can do to keep Amari around if they want to do so but with the 34 and cutting him post June next year they'd slide in under the current cap for next year but eat an additional 10 over the next 2 years (I think)

Chubb would be the extension most on their mind I'd think though. But he is 29 after 2024. Things don't go great from there for Rbs typically.

How good is Jerome Ford?

He is obviously no Chubb. But if he can produce say 85% of what Chubb can, Browns have to consider letting Chubb walk.

Seems to be the way the RB market works now anyway.

 

[fightinfunbags]

How good is Jerome Ford?

He is obviously no Chubb. But if he can produce say 85% of what Chubb can, Browns have to consider letting Chubb walk.

Seems to be the way the RB market works now anyway.

They’ve also put a lot of wear and tear on Chubb with a ton of usage. At least that’s how it seems from afar.

 

[tlance]

They won the game.

Yes.

Thank you for that.

Do you read the time stamp on the posts?

I clearly wrote that during the first half when they were losing.

I think everyone here is capable of looking at the box score after the game is over and correctly determining who won.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Yes.

Thank you for that.

Do you read the time stamp on the posts?

I clearly wrote that during the first half when they were losing.

I think everyone here is capable of looking at the box score after the game is over and correctly determining who won.

Howell looks legit.

I know preseason doesn't matter a lot but I would be concerned if he was struggling against players trying to make a squad....he isn't. He looking really good.

 

[shopson67]

Howell looks legit.

I know preseason doesn't matter a lot but I would be concerned if he was struggling against players trying to make a squad....he isn't. He looking really good.

The defense wasn't stopping Josh Johnson, which seems more of a red flag to me.

 

[shopson67]

I get RB not being valued but it just feels like overkill anymore. dude has 3 years in lol.

The guy clearly can't read the room. He wants a big raise while still on his rookie contract after a down year and coming off an injury. That would be a tough sell at any position really, but compounded by being a RB. It would be logical for the Colts to want to extend him, but his salary demands must be astronomical.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

How good is Jerome Ford?

He is obviously no Chubb. But if he can produce say 85% of what Chubb can, Browns have to consider letting Chubb walk.

Seems to be the way the RB market works now anyway.

I'm not a Ford fan.

if there was anyone that was an adequate replacement it was Johnson.

But even with the market as is its not like 5 plus YPC guys just fall out of trees.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

It’s actually not super hard to clear 52 mil next year. I just don’t see the move to clear cap and then not allocate it somewhere.

we will see man. all the rumblings out of cleveland are it is to stabilize the books for 2 seasons. They have pretty much an entire roster signed thru 24

 

[DJ Fieri]

I'm not a Ford fan.

if there was anyone that was an adequate replacement it was Johnson.

But even with the market as is its not like 5 plus YPC guys just fall out of trees.

Shit....

Kareem Hunt is a FA....I am almost good with rescinding the tag on Jacobs and bringing in Hunt. Go with a RB by committee....

 

[fightinfunbags]

we will see man. all the rumblings out of cleveland are it is to stabilize the books for 2 seasons. They have pretty much an entire roster signed thru 24

That must then entail moving some of the money back to this year’s cap with different players. I don’t know. The cap management stuff is so convoluted. I’ll trust the experts to know what they’re doing. I just know that experience has taught me when teams clear that much cap on the eve of the season that they’re looking to do something. How are they at LB and S? There are some guys looking to get paid at those positions.

 

[Shanemansj13]

They’ve also put a lot of wear and tear on Chubb with a ton of usage. At least that’s how it seems from afar.

I actually think the opposite, now Chubb had his injury history but they had Hunt for the past couple years and other than last year he got a lot of carries. Compared to the other too RB’s Chubb does not have the wear and tear imo.

6 more games than Cook-same carries.
Look at those top backs it doesn’t look so bad. They have managed his carries having depth. This will be the first year he could go 350+. Barely cleared 300 last year.

Now even me saying this he will still be 29. Not sure he is worth another contract but that can be said for any RB

	Derrick Henry	71	1,464	7,101	4.9	100.0	68	971	103	134	9.4	13.7	2
	Ezekiel Elliott	78	1,317	5,648	4.3	72.4	46	1,704	247	325	6.9	21.8	9
	Nick Chubb	75	1,210	6,341	5.2	84.5	48	990	119	158	8.3	13.2	4
	Dalvin Cook	69	1,208	5,639	4.7	81.7	45	1,704	210	271	8.1	24.7	5
	Joe Mixon	66	1,136	4,752	4.2	72.0	36	1,476	201	249	7.3	22.4	10
	Josh Jacobs	60	1,072	4,740	4.4	79.0	40	1,152	160	200	7.2	19.2	0