NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[fightinfunbags]

I do not discount this but you'd think of 24, 26, 66, whatever one would call the police and yet not one did.

You’d think in 2022 you’d be in the loop. r*pe and sexual assault rarely gets reported at all for many of the reasons I stated in an earlier post. Additionally, different people react differently to trauma. Based on the earlier conversation there was disagreement as to whether or not what Watson did was sexual assault. Maybe some victims didn’t even process what happened being a crime at first. Who knows but nobody reporting anything to police isn’t as odd as you make it out to be. Most women who experience these things say after word that they felt like they wouldn’t be believed.

 

[fightinfunbags]

as mentioned, I could see not wanting an NDA if the settlement was really low. He'd probably like to be able to say what it was (or have Hardin) if it were something like $20K each give or take a little.

This is a 180 degree turn from where you were earlier. You offered the idea that Watson was leveraged by the NFL to settle these cases in return for a lighter suspension. Doesn’t that mean that time is on the side of the accusers? Watson has been leveraged into moving off his decision to settle. What’s been published in the report about Miami kicking the tires on Watson at the deadline was that the parameters of a settlement were around 100,000. He just signed a guaranteed contract. The accusers know all of this through their attorneys. It’s way more likely the settlement is in the 100k range. There is likely to also be different layers of settlements. I’m projecting something like this would have two or even three tiers of payout. Let’s call 100,000 an average. That’s likely 2.2 million + to make this go away. Not exactly a small settlement.

 

[tlance]

I do not discount this but you'd think of 24, 26, 66, whatever one would call the police and yet not one did.

Then how come so many of these serial sexual predators are able to act for years without authorities stepping in?

I will tell you.

Most sexual assaults go unreported.

Especially when it is a celebrity.

Because who is believing 1 random woman over a famous man.

Once somebody goes public, then safety in numbers makes it more likely that others with similar experience are going to open up too.

That is how these things usually work.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Then how come so many of these serial sexual predators are able to act for years without authorities stepping in?

I will tell you.

Most sexual assaults go unreported.

Especially when it is a celebrity.

Because who is believing 1 random woman over a famous man.

Once somebody goes public, then safety in numbers makes it more likely that others with similar experience are going to open up too.

That is how these things always work.

What you’ve posted is why so many people didn’t come forward with Bill Cosby and how he was able to operate for decades.

 

[thunderc]

Then how come so many of these serial sexual predators are able to act for years without authorities stepping in?

I will tell you.

Most sexual assaults go unreported.

Especially when it is a celebrity.

Because who is believing 1 random woman over a famous man.

Once somebody goes public, then safety in numbers makes it more likely that others with similar experience are going to open up too.

That is how these things usually work.

And on top of that add in the fact that the profession has a seedy side and they would be even less likely to come forward.

 

[tlance]

What you’ve posted is why so many people didn’t come forward with Bill Cosby and how he was able to operate for decades.

Bill Cosby, Jerry Sandusky, every catholic priest who was big in their local communities.

It happens over and over again.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Honestly to me the 66 therapists in less than a year number says more to me than that 24 number. It’s obvious what he was looking for, and that he got careless.

what did he do that was illegal? I dont get it....I mean- obviously he is a creep and scummy.........I listen on the radio all the time- and I am being honest when I am not 100% sure exactly what he is accused of

 

[bksballer89]

what did he do that was illegal? I dont get it....I mean- obviously he is a creep and scummy.........I listen on the radio all the time- and I am being honest when I am not 100% sure exactly what he is accused of

Just because he is on your team doesn't mean you need to defend him

 

[WiggyRuss]

Just because he is on your team doesn't mean you need to defend him

I am being totally honest- i listen every day on the radio people discuss it but i dont know what the actual specific charges are.

 

[Black Adam]

Keep hearing good things about Justyn Ross in camp. Man, if he pans out whatta steal...

 

[DJ Fieri]

Fitzmagic going to join the Thursday night football announcing crew.

 

[Shanemansj13]

 

[DJ Fieri]

Honestly to me the 66 therapists in less than a year number says more to me than that 24 number. It’s obvious what he was looking for, and that he got careless.

Yep.

 

[bksballer89]

What hell is going on

 

[bksballer89]

4 deaths in the last couple of months from nfl and nba. All young guys

 

[shopson67]

Ha no it isn’t. This is a clear cut sexual assault. Physical conduct doesn’t have to take place at all.

An ACCUSAL, not clear cut. Accuser had the opportunity to leave, did not. These claims are all very fishy.

Don't get me wrong, it's definitely lewd behavior and he's a dirt bag, but overall seems minor in the grand scheme of things, especially without evidence. Where's the smoking gun / stained clothing? Monica Lewinsky him.

 

[fightinfunbags]

An ACCUSAL, not clear cut. Accuser had the opportunity to leave, did not. These claims are all very fishy.

Don't get me wrong, it's definitely lewd behavior and he's a dirt bag, but overall seems minor in the grand scheme of things, especially without evidence. Where's the smoking gun / stained clothing? Monica Lewinsky him.

Like most old heads you’re out of touch on this and many other issues. An unwanted masturbation performed in front of someone is a sexual assault. Period. End of that story.

 

[shopson67]

I think a person is a shitty human being when a person comes forward and then they go and deflect any level of blame on to a victim. It’s just wrong on every level. There is no text book response for a person to have when they’re being assaulted. Every individual is going to respond differently and they’ll be motivated by many different motivations and stimuli. One thing that can’t be expected is for a person to act rationally in their response or actions. It’s an irrational event. Expecting a rational response is not a fair ask. Case studies show a multitude of responses people have and many of them are irrational.

Sure, but to be a victim you need evidence that something happened. Hearsay shouldn't be enough.

 

[shopson67]

Like most old heads you’re out of touch on this and many other issues. An unwanted masturbation performed in front of someone is a sexual assault. Period. End of that story.

IF it actually happened...

 

[shopson67]

Good point. That natural comparison is one many different fans and social media will attach itself to. I can also see the suspensions for Josh Gordon smoking weed being compared to this as well.

The Josh Gordon suspensions are tough to compare now, with legalization spreading every year.