NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[tlance]

Ya, I think he embellished on the pro athletes numbers. I think it would've been in his best interest to deliver his point across in an accurate manner to simply bring up some athletes having to suddenly retire from heart issues post-vaccine and videos of soccer players simply dropping on the field (not necessarily death); but there's not enough data to support his hypothesis right now.

Embellished?

Or flat out made up?

 

[Heatles84]

Embellished?

Or flat out made up?

I'd say embellished. There maybe may have been a few deaths of athletes due to the vaccine. I doubt it's a hundred though.

 

[tlance]

I'd say embellished. There maybe may have been a few deaths of athletes due to the vaccine. I doubt it's a hundred though.

There may have been?

Can you name 1 who died because of the vaccine?

Athletes collapse and die occasionally. It happens.

Assuming that because a couple did, that it was due to the vaccine is incredibly stupid.

 

[shopson67]

Is he losing his mind

Sounds more like he's being facetious, since he is also refusing to wear a mask. Maybe that quote needs to be read in a mocking tone?

 

[shopson67]

I hate the argument of play defense for those that is satisfied with the current rules in the media liked stopping Mahomes and that offense is so easy

13 seconds. THIRTEEN SECONDS. If you can't hold a team for 13 seconds from the kickoff, you deserve to lose. Plain and simple.

 

[Shanemansj13]

13 seconds. THIRTEEN SECONDS. If you can't hold a team for 13 seconds from the kickoff, you deserve to lose. Plain and simple.

To add to that, how do you not realize one of the best TE's in the NFL history is wide open. Sucks for Josh Allen bc he was amazing but the defense absolutely let him down. Pathetic.

 

[Heatles84]

Can you name 1 who died because of the vaccine?

Athletes collapse and die occasionally. It happens.

Assuming that because a couple did, that it was due to the vaccine is incredibly stupid.

You say stupid, I say short-sighted and closed off from accepting alternative data.

I've said it over and over again, and will repeat myself. The vaccines should be applied at specific risk profiles; athletes I'd say are at the very low-end of those that should need a vaccine for Covid.

Athletes collapsing prior to Covid is incredibly rare. There are a multitude of studies showing that myocarditis are one of the side effects of the vaccine to the point that Pfizer has even acquired a pharmaceutical company that specializes in heart failure and other areas in that arena.

My point is not to take this into the politics forum. I'm just taking an alternative stance as I'm willing to hear arguments from both side of the aisle, and at the same time, mentioning that there's inconsistencies that exist.

Do I think Stockton embellished on the deaths of athletes due to the vaccine? Definitely. Do I think there's validity to his stance on Gonzaga's mask mandates and the data that exists everywhere else in the country? That is where I agree with him.

 

[shopson67]

To add to that, how do you not realize one of the best TE's in the NFL history is wide open. Sucks for Josh Allen bc he was amazing but the defense absolutely let him down. Pathetic.

Tre White was sorely missed.

 

[shopson67]

You say stupid, I say short-sighted and closed off from accepting alternative data.

I've said it over and over again, and will repeat myself. The vaccines should be applied at specific risk profiles; athletes I'd say are at the very low-end of those that should need a vaccine for Covid.

Athletes collapsing prior to Covid is incredibly rare. There are a multitude of studies showing that myocarditis are one of the side effects of the vaccine to the point that Pfizer has even acquired a pharmaceutical company that specializes in heart failure and other areas in that arena.

My point is not to take this into the politics forum. I'm just taking an alternative stance as I'm willing to hear arguments from both side of the aisle, and at the same time, mentioning that there's inconsistencies that exist.

Do I think Stockton embellished on the deaths of athletes due to the vaccine? Definitely. Do I think there's validity to his stance on Gonzaga's mask mandates and the data that exists everywhere else in the country? That is where I agree with him.

Complaining about mask mandates is such a 1st world issue. Wearing a mask is a minor inconvenience.

 

[bksballer89]

13 seconds. THIRTEEN SECONDS. If you can't hold a team for 13 seconds from the kickoff, you deserve to lose. Plain and simple.

It is literally 2 decent completions. They should have played a different defense but getting 35 yards in 13 seconds with 3 timeouts isn't that hard.

 

[shopson67]

It is literally 2 decent completions. They should have played a different defense but getting 35 yards in 13 seconds with 3 timeouts isn't that hard.

If that is true, the Chiefs underperformed by not scoring over 100 pts.

 

[trojanfan12]

Any form of sudden death is problematic, IMO

Either play another quarter, or guarantee equal possessions.

I disagree. That likely involves too many extra plays and can put the team that wins at a big disadvantage going into the next week. Not only will they be more "beat up", but you're risking injury to a top player.

By the end of the Bills/Chiefs game, neither defense was stopping the opposing offense. With guaranteed equal possessions, they might still be playing. lol

 

[tlance]

You say stupid, I say short-sighted and closed off from accepting alternative data.

I've said it over and over again, and will repeat myself. The vaccines should be applied at specific risk profiles; athletes I'd say are at the very low-end of those that should need a vaccine for Covid.

Athletes collapsing prior to Covid is incredibly rare. There are a multitude of studies showing that myocarditis are one of the side effects of the vaccine to the point that Pfizer has even acquired a pharmaceutical company that specializes in heart failure and other areas in that arena.

My point is not to take this into the politics forum. I'm just taking an alternative stance as I'm willing to hear arguments from both side of the aisle, and at the same time, mentioning that there's inconsistencies that exist.

Do I think Stockton embellished on the deaths of athletes due to the vaccine? Definitely. Do I think there's validity to his stance on Gonzaga's mask mandates and the data that exists everywhere else in the country? That is where I agree with him.

I am not talking about a mask mandate. I am talking about the bold faced lie that Stockton told.

There is nothing embellished. He made it up. Arguments about what? Are you arguing that 100s of athletes have died from the vaccine?

I asked you to name 1.

That is not politics. It is calling out dangerous stupidity.

 

[shopson67]

I disagree. That likely involves too many extra plays and can put the team that wins at a big disadvantage going into the next week. Not only will they be more "beat up", but you're risking injury to a top player.

By the end of the Bills/Chiefs game, neither defense was stopping the opposing offense. With guaranteed equal possessions, they might still be playing. lol

OT is 5 minutes max, and I think most are stumping for a change to the playoff rules mostly (which is a somewhat rare occurrence).

Ask the Bills if they were willing to risk further injury and exhaustion. They have plenty of time to get rested and healthy now.

 

[bksballer89]

If that is true, the Chiefs underperformed by not scoring over 100 pts.

Buffalo going to try and prevent Hill beating them deep there. Like i said they should have defended different but lets not act like the best QB in football completing 2 passes for 35 yards with all 3 of his timeouts is all that difficult. The bills big fuck up was on the kickoff.

35 yards is all that was needed to get them in fg range.

Bills defensive strategy was bad there. What they could have easily done is tackle all the chiefs eligible receivers and take a 5 yd penalty. By doing that the clock goes down a bit and they only would gain 5 yards

 

[shopson67]

I am not talking about a mask mandate. I am talking about the bold faced lie that Stockton told.

There is nothing embellished. He made it up. Arguments about what? Are you arguing that 100s of athletes have died from the vaccine?

I asked you to name 1.

That is not politics. It is calling out dangerous stupidity.

Like I noted before, he was likely being facetious. That quote is lacking tone and context. He's anti max mandate, so clearly he thinks everyone is at lesser risk.

 

[shopson67]

Buffalo going to try and prevent Hill beating them deep there. Like i said they should have defended different but lets not act like the best QB in football completing 2 passes for 35 yards with all 3 of his timeouts is all that difficult. The bills big fuck up was on the kickoff.

35 yards is all that was needed to get them in fg range.

Bills defensive strategy was bad there. What they could have easily done is tackle all the chiefs eligible receivers and take a 5 yd penalty. By doing that the clock goes down a bit and they only would gain 5 yards

Everything about the defensive strategy was bad. They should've dropped at least 8 instead of rushing 4, daring Mahomes to scramble and eat clock.

 

[trojanfan12]

OT is 5 minutes max,

Uh, in the NFL, OT is 10 minutes depending on how quickly teams score. In the regular season, it's not as big a deal because it can end in a tie. The playoffs can't end in a tie.

 

[bksballer89]

I am not talking about a mask mandate. I am talking about the bold faced lie that Stockton told.

There is nothing embellished. He made it up. Arguments about what? Are you arguing that 100s of athletes have died from the vaccine?

I asked you to name 1.

That is not politics. It is calling out dangerous stupidity.

He always on that side

 

[bksballer89]

Everything about the defensive strategy was bad. They should've dropped at least 8 instead of rushing 4, daring Mahomes to scramble and eat clock.

Im with you boss