NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[dtgold88]

Cowturd's such a dumbfuck. I'm no math major but I'm pretty sure if a QB throw the ball 28 times and completes 21 of them that's a 75 completion percentage.

Next he'll say N. Chubb is way overrated because he doesn't average 6.0 ypc for his career.

He likes Chubb so he might blame Baker for his fumble.

 

[thunderc]

He likes Chubb so he might blame Baker for his fumble.

Mayfield played a decent game, but the truth is when it was on the line he didn’t come through. He will keep getting better I think, but I don’t think he will ever be elite.

 

[Wamu]

Well….

That is the difference between a game manager and an elite QB.

The elite QBs can still do it when the defense knows they are going to throw.

Well damn man if you're only gonna compare Mayfield to elite QB's you're setting him up to fail. In no universe is he elite. But he's not garbage either. I'd put him around the middle of the pack. He has the ability and the tools around him to build on what he did last season. If he doesn't improve it's on him.

 

[Wamu]

He likes Chubb so he might blame Baker for his fumble.

Makes sense.

 

[DJ Fieri]

 

[Black Adam]

Yep. He had every chance to succeed, he was given every resource over the past couple of years. After that embarrassment on Saturday, it was time. It was the same problems as the last 5 years.

no doubt about it. in fact, it was overdue...

 

[Black Adam]

Cowturd's such a dumbfuck. I'm no math major but I'm pretty sure if a QB throw the ball 28 times and completes 21 of them that's a 75 completion percentage.

Next he'll say N. Chubb is way overrated because he doesn't average 6.0 ypc for his career.

six yards? that's it? better draft someone else to tote the rock lol...

looking forward to the next RB y'all draft...

 

[dtgold88]

Mayfield played a decent game, but the truth is when it was on the line he didn’t come through. He will keep getting better I think, but I don’t think he will ever be elite.

The truth is if some others came through maybe it doesn't even get to that point, though. He didn't just play a decent game. 75% completion and 11+ yards/pass. 4-4 TDs in red zone is elite level. Can he get into the top 5? Not sure, but I'm not putting it past him.

 

[dtgold88]

Well damn man if you're only gonna compare Mayfield to elite QB's you're setting him up to fail. In no universe is he elite. But he's not garbage either. I'd put him around the middle of the pack. He has the ability and the tools around him to build on what he did last season. If he doesn't improve it's on him.

what game manager completes 75% of his passes for 11+ yards per pass? Was also at or near the top on deep balls last year. Game manager?

 

[thunderc]

The truth is if some others came through maybe it doesn't even get to that point, though. He didn't just play a decent game. 75% completion and 11+ yards/pass. 4-4 TDs in red zone is elite level. Can he get into the top 5? Not sure, but I'm not putting it past him.

If he hadn’t turned it over when it mattered most you have a case, but he did.

 

[dtgold88]

Well….

That is the difference between a game manager and an elite QB.

The elite QBs can still do it when the defense knows they are going to throw.

In many cases so has Baker. But it is harder when a team has to pass as opposed to when they don't.

FYI, calling a guy who was at or near the top in deep ball passing a game manager as some kind of knock is kooky talk...unless you just think any good to great QB is a game manager. I mean, are QBs supposed to not be able to manage a game to be elite?

 

[DJ Fieri]

Mayfield played a decent game, but the truth is when it was on the line he didn’t come through. He will keep getting better I think, but I don’t think he will ever be elite.

This.

 

[dtgold88]

If he hadn’t turned it over when it mattered most you have a case, but he did.

entire game matters. I'd say it turned on Chubb's fumble more than anything, but I'd still call him elite.

 

[dtgold88]

This.

Hard to take you seriously when you struggle to form your own opinions and seem to think you get extra credit for passing TDs over rushing TDs.

 

[tlance]

Well damn man if you're only gonna compare Mayfield to elite QB's you're setting him up to fail. In no universe is he elite. But he's not garbage either. I'd put him around the middle of the pack. He has the ability and the tools around him to build on what he did last season. If he doesn't improve it's on him.

I am not doing that at all. I even posted earlier that he shouldn’t be compared to those guys. Should not even be a conversation.

 

[tlance]

In many cases so has Baker. But it is harder when a team has to pass as opposed to when they don't.

FYI, calling a guy who was at or near the top in deep ball passing a game manager as some kind of knock is kooky talk...unless you just think any good to great QB is a game manager. I mean, are QBs supposed to not be able to manage a game to be elite?

I am trying to explain to you what he meant by the comment.

And yes, game managers can throw deep too. Most of the shots for a player like that get set up off play action and rarely come from those plays where the defense knows he is throwing.

I have not watched Baker nearly as much as you have, but from what I have seen, he tends to struggle when the run game isn’t clicking, or isn’t available due to situation.

His stats when playing from favorable script does not in any way prove that he is more than a game manager. Baker was in those favorable spots for almost the entire game until the last possession or two.

So maybe he is an elite game manager?

 

[trojanfan12]

Urban if he decides to leave the Jags after a bad season?

lol

That was one of the first things someone suggested after it was announced.

Another suggestion, and I agree with it, is that Bohn's first call should be to Matt Rhule to see if he's happy in Carolina and go from there.

 

[trojanfan12]

In many cases so has Baker. But it is harder when a team has to pass as opposed to when they don't.

FYI, calling a guy who was at or near the top in deep ball passing a game manager as some kind of knock is kooky talk...unless you just think any good to great QB is a game manager. I mean, are QBs supposed to not be able to manage a game to be elite?

,All QB's are game managers to some degree. Being able to "manage" the game is the most basic part of a QB's job. To me, what separates them is what happens when they are forced to go off script. Can they consistently still make the play? Or at least make something positive happen like a Mahomes, Wilson or Rogers?

Or does he consistently struggle when he has to go off script?

From what I've seen of Baker so far, I don't think he's "there" yet. But I think it's possible for him to get there. If nothing else, he doesn't lack for confidence and that's a big part of it, imo.

 

[bksballer89]

Give me 4-5 underdogs you guys like straight up week 2 @fightinfunbags @SteelersPride @Shanemansj13

 

[SteelersPride]

Give me 4-5 underdogs you guys like straight up week 2 @fightinfunbags @SteelersPride @Shanemansj13

Cowboys
Titans
Dolphins catch

catch my eye not a ton else but

bengals
Ravens would be the other two.

i really wanna say gmen or philly but i dunno about it and the juice isnt enough