Series Thread: NBA Finals: Toronto Raptors vs Golden State Warriors

[shopson67]

smart even if offered a max deal which he'll never see if he cannot make a full recovery?

Is there a time limit on opting in? Last year he declined in June, but I'm not sure if that's required?

 

[dtgold88]

Regressing? Before I say anything I wanna make sure I got the right topic. You talking about the Raptors winning less regular season games than last year?

All I meant. Hopefully, you wont try and make it a positive they lost more with better players. Did they get further? Yep...but, again, had better players and no Lebron to get by.

 

[shopson67]

It does appear he would have to opt in before July 1st. Tough call.

 

[dtgold88]

Yeah, they "regressed"all the way to the finals.

which was why I mentioned the reg. season. You thought their goal was lose more with better players?

Perhaps those better players and no Lebron helped, too?

 

[msgkings322]

You don't strike me as In the Moment Guy.

He is younger, but KDs pretty good, too.

Who said KD wasn't good?

 

[dtgold88]

Is there a time limit on opting in? Last year he declined in June, but I'm not sure if that's required?

Guessing before July 1.

 

[msgkings322]

smart even if offered a max deal which he'll never see if he cannot make a full recovery?

Depends how badly he wants to keep his options open. And he will get the max from GS no matter what

 

[dtgold88]

Who said KD wasn't good?

Just pointing out he might be as good or better than Kawhi (as most thought before the playoffs) and no reason to be In the Moment Guy.

 

[dtgold88]

Depends how badly he wants to keep his options open. And he will get the max from GS no matter what

He has less options if he waits and does not come back from the injury.

 

[msgkings322]

Just pointing out he might be as good or better than Kawhi (as most thought before the playoffs) and no reason to be In the Moment Guy.

Players rise and fall. This playoff run has made my opinion that Kawhi is now the best. KD is a very close second IMO with defense being the main factor why. At the level we are talking about there's no scientific way to prove who's 'best'. The top 4-5 guys can all make a case

 

[msgkings322]

He has less options if he waits and does not come back from the injury.

No less than taking a long term deal now. Then he has zero options.

 

[dtgold88]

Players rise and fall. This playoff run has made my opinion that Kawhi is now the best. KD is a very close second IMO with defense being the main factor why. At the level we are talking about there's no scientific way to prove who's 'best'. The top 4-5 guys can all make a case

agreed and think when we had that thread to pick the top 5 most said at the very least coud make a strong case for 3-4 to be the best.

Ironically, I think at the time many (including myself) left out Kawhi.

whoops

 

[Wamu]

All I meant. Hopefully, you wont try and make it a positive they lost more with better players. Did they get further? Yep...but, again, had better players and no Lebron to get by.

So your issue is w/ a better roster this year that the Raptors won less games & regressed? Okay. Then where's your issue w/ the '16 Warriors? Greatest regular season team in history. They added KD the following year & won less games. So they regressed right?

It seems to me that you're trying to diminish what the Raptors have done this year because they didn't have to face a LeBron-led team. Which is pretty funny. If there was any truth to that the blabbering national media would have already mentioned it.

 

[dtgold88]

No less than taking a long term deal now. Then he has zero options.

ok....but he has the money. Fair point to say if all about options the 1 year deal is the way to go. But not a bad idea to take the max or supermax now in his situation if offered either.

 

[msgkings322]

ok....but he has the money. Fair point to say if all about options the 1 year deal is the way to go. But not a bad idea to take the max or supermax now in his situation if offered either.

That's all I'm saying. Warriors need to offer it and he needs to decide if he still wants to keep the Knicks or whomever as an option. The supermax will always be there for him from the Ws, even if out of guilt

 

[Wamu]

Who said KD wasn't good?

Inside sources?

 

[dtgold88]

So your issue is w/ a better roster this year that the Raptors won less games & regressed? Okay. Then where's your issue w/ the '16 Warriors? Greatest regular season team in history. They added KD the following year & won less games. So they regressed right?

It seems to me that you're trying to diminish what the Raptors have done this year because they didn't have to face a LeBron-led team. Which is pretty funny. If there was any truth to that the blabbering national media would have already mentioned it.

I don't have an issue. I'm only saying given the choice I'd take Casey and the current roster over Nurse and last year's roster. Wouldn't you?

Good point about Durant and the 2017 Warriors vs. 2016 reg. season.

 

[Hambombs]

Inside sources?

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Multiple sauces you say?

 

[CitySushi]

If I'm Durant and the Warriors, I'd look at this potential scenario:

1) Durant opt-in to his contract this year. Creates a bit of room under the luxury tax which helps with their acquisitions this year. Durant gets the full staff and resources at his disposal with absolutely no expectation to play the year out. Basically, it's compensating Durant for his recovery and what he did for the team in Game 5 (and previously).

2) The Warriors extend Durant past the opt-in with a super max deal extension at 4 years.

3) The Warriors and Durant have a wink/nod agreement that KD would like to be traded the following off-season to his preferred destination. Compensation would have likely to have multiple 1st round picks, but those would be throw aways to any team that KD went to most likely as their draft picks will probably be in the mid to late 20's. It's also coincidentally the same year that AD is a free agent.

4) Worst case scenario is that teams may not want Durant after the injury, which might result in him staying with the Warriors. In that case, say he's only 75% of the player he was pre-injury, he's still going to be a very good player. That shot won't go away, it'll be his mobility more than anything. He can still be utilized on the perimeter and in the mid/low post and just get buckets. Defensively will be where he might struggle. The Warriors have him and Steph locked up for the next 4 years going forward and hopefully lock up Klay too. That should at least give them another run or two at a title.

Kind of a win-win for everyone. Durant get's paid and the Warriors take care of their own. He gets first dibs on looking for a preferred destination in 2020 and if he doesn't like what he sees he can stay with the Warriors and try to compete for more titles.

 

[Robotech]

Media talking heads are so concerned with these bullshit narratives about guys rising up and draining a GW jump shot to clinch a championship. Instead, Kawhi was doubled at the top of the key and made the smart outlet pass to Van Vleet who found an open (at the time) Lowry. Draymond made an amazing defensive stop to secure the W. But everyone wants to focus on Kawhi's supposed fuck up.

Draymond used every bit of his 7' 1" wingspan. Clutch defensive play.