Nats Acquire Doug Fister From Tigers

[Forty_Sixand2]

I feel like there is something wrong with this trade. Did Fister lose his arm yesterday? Is he the equivalent of locker room TB. What am I missing.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

I feel like there is something wrong with this trade. Did Fister lose his arm yesterday? Is he the equivalent of locker room TB. What am I missing.

Either the Tigers know something about Fister nobody else does, or this can't make sense.

 

[hokiehi21]

Maybe it's just a salary dump for the Tigers.

 

[Howie115]

Either the Tigers know something about Fister nobody else does, or this can't
make sense.

The only way it makes sense is you're filling some back-end roster spots with cheap talent so you can sign Scherzer, Cabrera long term and afford to sign a closer this year. Dombrowski usually does these deals in reverse -- could-be-good players for ones that are already good.

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

Do you guys want Martin Erat as well? I will see if Leonsis can throw him in.

 

[hokiehi21]

Do you guys want Martin Erat as well? I will see if Leonsis can throw him in.

Erat for Datsyuk!

 

[Fountain City Blues]

The only way it makes sense is you're filling some back-end roster spots with cheap talent so you can sign Scherzer, Cabrera long term and afford to sign a closer this year. Dombrowski usually does these deals in reverse -- could-be-good players for ones that are already good.

Maybe so, but it seems hard to believe this is the best move the Tigers had at their disposal.

 

[Cobiemonster]

I'm so pissed the Phillies couldn't have made a move for Doug Fister, especially seeing the return the Tigers got - Phillies are going to never score any runs against the Nats starting pitching at this rate

 

[Howie115]

Maybe so, but it seems hard to believe this is the best move the Tigers had at
their disposal.

Exactly my feeling. Whatever the financial benefits, seems we could have held out for a better deal -- i.e. a more experienced lefty reliever.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

I'm so pissed the Phillies couldn't have made a move for Doug Fister, especially seeing the return the Tigers got - Phillies are going to never score any runs against the Nats starting pitching at this rate

I am pissed the Royals didn't trade Cain for Sanchez now...

 

[Cobiemonster]

So, just spitballing, if the Phillies wanted to make a deal for Doug Fister and you compare the types the Tigers got in return - it'd probably be a Freddy Galvis, Antonio Bastardo and a young minor league pitcher for him - more I see it, more the Tigers really got shafted in this deal

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

I've read up quite a bit on the guys they received. Robbie Ray averaged over 10 k's/9 in AA as a starter with a 11-5 record and 3.30 ERA and was one of the top 100 prospects in all of baseball last year (i think he was like 76th on the list).

Ian Krol was a top 10 prospect in all of the minors in 2010, as well as the Oakland minor league pitcher of the year. He had a 1.21 ERA out of the bullpen in triple A last year before getting called up by the Nationals.

Both players are 22 and left handed. So it isn't as if the Tigers got nothing out of the deal. I like to give Dombrowski and his scouts the benefit of the doubt, as they usually come away smelling like roses after every trade, this one does have me scratching my head a bit. This is the type of deal we won't know how Detroit really did until Robbie Ray comes thru the system.

 

[$500 Million]

The only way it makes sense is you're filling some back-end roster spots with cheap talent so you can sign Scherzer, Cabrera long term and afford to sign a closer this year. Dombrowski usually does these deals in reverse -- could-be-good players for ones that are already good.

He was due for a bad deal.

Overdue actually.

 

[da55bums]

Fister will be a beast in the NL.

They must not have wanted to trade him to the Royals, because the Royals definately could have provided better relief pitching and really a better offer.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

They must not have wanted to trade him to the Royals, because the Royals definately could have provided better relief pitching and really a better offer.

Running joke is now we could have traded Odorizzi and Getz for Shields straight up, ha...ha...ha...ha...ha..ha..ha.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

He was due for a bad deal.

Overdue actually.

While I agree -- he is definitely due to make a bad deal. This was the same type of reaction Tiger fans had when we dealt Granderson and look how that deal came out.

Scherzer won the Cy Young this year and Austin Jackson has been our starting CF for the past 3 years (or is it 4?). Granted Phil Coke is nothing special, but he did close for the Tigers in the playoffs two years ago. The one piece that was terrible is Schlereth.

From what I read -- Detroit is extremely high on Robbie Ray. 22 year old lefty with a mid 90's fastball. I don't know much about Krol, other than he had a sick ERA in AAA (1.21) before being called up to the Nationals and he was actually drafted by the A's.

With Smyly moving to the rotation -- it gives them his replacement in Krol and gives them a young arm coming up from the minors. Lombardozzi is basically going to fill Santiago's role on the bench and back up all the infielders.

I do know I trust the Tigers scouts and Dombrowski when it comes to making a trade -- they seem to be able to evaluate talent quite well. If Ray turns out to be in the Tigers rotation in a few years -- the trade will look great. I just think Detroit has something bigger planned, because they aren't built for 4-5 years down the road -- they are built to win now. So I think we will see Detroit make a splash with one of the bigger FA's on the market.

 

[navamind]

While I agree -- he is definitely due to make a bad deal. This was the same type of reaction Tiger fans had when we dealt Granderson and look how that deal came out.

Scherzer won the Cy Young this year and Austin Jackson has been our starting CF for the past 3 years (or is it 4?). Granted Phil Coke is nothing special, but he did close for the Tigers in the playoffs two years ago. The one piece that was terrible is Schlereth.

From what I read -- Detroit is extremely high on Robbie Ray. 22 year old lefty with a mid 90's fastball. I don't know much about Krol, other than he had a sick ERA in AAA (1.21) before being called up to the Nationals and he was actually drafted by the A's.

With Smyly moving to the rotation -- it gives them his replacement in Krol and gives them a young arm coming up from the minors. Lombardozzi is basically going to fill Santiago's role on the bench and back up all the infielders.

I do know I trust the Tigers scouts and Dombrowski when it comes to making a trade -- they seem to be able to evaluate talent quite well. If Ray turns out to be in the Tigers rotation in a few years -- the trade will look great. I just think Detroit has something bigger planned, because they aren't built for 4-5 years down the road -- they are built to win now. So I think we will see Detroit make a splash with one of the bigger FA's on the market.

Once again, it was in AA. And it was 26 innings. Very small sample size. He had a 4.91 ERA in AAA last year... in 3.2 IP.

 

[element1286]

Robbie Ray isn't a starter, he's the exact type of power lefty teams like out of the pen; 4 bb/9 innings and can't even average 5 innings a start in the minors? No way he turns into a starter in the majors. Minor league profile is exactly like Justin Wilson of the Pirates, he's a solid reliever not a starter.

 

[da55bums]

It doesn't matter what the Tigers set up for. it was a horrible return for Fister, regardless of any other plans. Just getting 1 player who is a top prospect would have been better than this deal

 

[jalopy]

It doesn't matter what the Tigers set up for. it was a horrible return for Fister, regardless of any other plans. Just getting 1 player who is a top prospect would have been better than this deal

You can't say that without taking into account what the Tigers do with the money they saved. I agree the trade made the Tigers worse on the field without considering the $$$'s.

Tigers signed Joe Nathan to a 2-year deal today