My Mock Draft 1.0

[augustisback003]

Why because ESPN has him ranked 11th overall? Well CBS Sports has him rated 23rd overall and one of their mocks has him going to us and the other has him going 26th overall.

I guess you don't get irony!


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What was Tim Couch's rating? What about Tom Brady's?

Those rating don't mean shit. Stop basing your opinion on ESPN's ratings and use your own eyes for once. But you'd actually have to watch football for that.


- Tubbs1518

 

[augustisback003]

Here's Bleacherreports mock, it looks pretty similar.

21. Cincinnati Bengals: Eric Reid, FS, LSU (Jr.)

Eric Reid’s stock has slipped a bit after a disappointing junior season, but he is still the best safety prospect in the 2013 draft class. The Bengals need an upgrade at safety next to Reggie Nelson and should pounce on the LSU product if he is available.

Reid is a terrific athlete who covers deep effectively. He is also a sound tackler and hard hitter who makes plays near the line of scrimmage. He has had some issues with inconsistency and penalties, but has huge talent and upside.

Nelson is capable of shifting to strong safety. Adding Reid could be a big step in solidifying the back end of the Bengals defense.

37. Cincinnati Bengals (from Oakland Raiders): Arthur Brown, LB, Kansas State (Sr.)

The Cincinnati Bengals would be smart to replace unrestricted free-agent middle linebacker Rey Maualuga in their lineup. Kansas State’s Arthur Brown is a versatile, instinctive and athletic linebacker who can make plays all over the field.

Both Brown and returning starter Vontaze Burfict can play middle linebacker and outside linebacker, which would give the Bengals an interchangeable pair of talented young linebackers in their nickel package.

53. Cincinnati Bengals: Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee (Jr.)

The Cincinnati Bengals drafted two talented wideouts last year, but that should not stop them from adding another receiver if the value is right. The Bengals still need to find a true No. 2 receiver to line up opposite A.J. Green, and Tennessee’s Justin Hunter would be well worth taking a shot on late in the second round.

Hunter may have the most upside of any wide receiver in the draft class, with great size, speed and leaping ability. As a deep threat opposite Green, he could draw coverages away and give Andy Dalton another playmaker.

84. Cincinnati Bengals: Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA (Sr.)

The Cincinnati Bengals could be in the market for a speed back to rotate with BenJarvus Green-Ellis—a role for which Johnathan Franklin is a good fit.

2013 NFL Mock Draft: How Will the First 3 Rounds Shake Out? | Bleacher Report

 

[Tubbs1518]

Here's Bleacherreports mock, it looks pretty similar.

21. Cincinnati Bengals: Eric Reid, FS, LSU (Jr.)

Eric Reid’s stock has slipped a bit after a disappointing junior season, but he is still the best safety prospect in the 2013 draft class. The Bengals need an upgrade at safety next to Reggie Nelson and should pounce on the LSU product if he is available.

Reid is a terrific athlete who covers deep effectively. He is also a sound tackler and hard hitter who makes plays near the line of scrimmage. He has had some issues with inconsistency and penalties, but has huge talent and upside.

Nelson is capable of shifting to strong safety. Adding Reid could be a big step in solidifying the back end of the Bengals defense.

37. Cincinnati Bengals (from Oakland Raiders): Arthur Brown, LB, Kansas State (Sr.)

The Cincinnati Bengals would be smart to replace unrestricted free-agent middle linebacker Rey Maualuga in their lineup. Kansas State’s Arthur Brown is a versatile, instinctive and athletic linebacker who can make plays all over the field.

Both Brown and returning starter Vontaze Burfict can play middle linebacker and outside linebacker, which would give the Bengals an interchangeable pair of talented young linebackers in their nickel package.

53. Cincinnati Bengals: Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee (Jr.)

The Cincinnati Bengals drafted two talented wideouts last year, but that should not stop them from adding another receiver if the value is right. The Bengals still need to find a true No. 2 receiver to line up opposite A.J. Green, and Tennessee’s Justin Hunter would be well worth taking a shot on late in the second round.

Hunter may have the most upside of any wide receiver in the draft class, with great size, speed and leaping ability. As a deep threat opposite Green, he could draw coverages away and give Andy Dalton another playmaker.

84. Cincinnati Bengals: Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA (Sr.)

The Cincinnati Bengals could be in the market for a speed back to rotate with BenJarvus Green-Ellis—a role for which Johnathan Franklin is a good fit.

2013 NFL Mock Draft: How Will the First 3 Rounds Shake Out? | Bleacher Report

This would actually be a great draft to me. Franklin is one of my top 3 RB's, Brown is one of my top 3 LB'ers and we get both in good spots. I'm not as high on Reid as I was but he has talent, and I don't have a huge problem with Hunter at that spot though I see no way in hell he is there.

 

[Tubbs1518]

My question for all you guys is this:

All we do is complain that Dalton can't hit the deep ball and he can't hit Green deep and he has no deep accuracy. So why do all of you seem to want to add another deep ball WR? He won't hit Hunter any better than he did Green.

 

[cincygrad]

My question for all you guys is this:

All we do is complain that Dalton can't hit the deep ball and he can't hit Green deep and he has no deep accuracy. So why do all of you seem to want to add another deep ball WR? He won't hit Hunter any better than he did Green.

I have my concerns about Dalton..... But I also have concerns that aside from Green, his receivers can't separate downfield making his job much more difficult. I thought he played better with Jerome Simpson on the field.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Exactly.

It is not about actually going deep, it is the threat of being able to go deep to open shit up underneath that he can actually hit.

You put AJ on one side, Hunter on the other, and then Sanu in the slot, Sanu will have 100+ catches for 1300 yards. While he does not have elite speed, he knows how to work the middle of t he field, and can find the soft spot in zones and has really good hands and size.

It is about making the defense work harder to cover everything. With no real option outside Green, and no threat at #2 on the outside, everything underneath gets crowded.

Dalton will probably never become that guy we want, the deep threat guy, but if you give his offense that threat, more opens up underneath for him to hit more targets, avoid more interceptions, move the chains more consistantly. Sanu would become an overnight sensation with Green and Hunter on the outside.

I would be very very happy with that draft as well.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

I wouldn't mind seeing us get lucky and see us get:

#1 - MLB, Manti T'eo
#2a - FS, Eric Reid
#2b - WR, Justin Hunter
#3 - RB, Montee Ball
#4 - OLB, Zavier Gooden

That would be a slam dunk draft in my opinion. I know I know Tubbs, you would be PISSED if we drafted Ball, I don't really care.

A lot of guys have to fall for us to get that damn lucky in the draft, but that would be a homerun.

 

[Tubbs1518]

Justin Hunter isn't falling to pick 2b. More than likely he won't be available at 2a. I also don't know about Te'o or Reid. Reid had a lot of lapses in coverage and made absolutely stupid plays and penalties a lot. I just watched 3 game tapes on him this morning. I'm in the process of watching game tape on Te'o. If you take that Bama tape away he is a top 10 pick. Should that 1 game out weigh the rest of the year or is it an anomaly?

And you know my thoughts on Ball. But more than that, he doesn't give us the change of pace, homerun back we need. He is no better than BJGE in that regard. We need a speed guy. Franklin from UCLA, Gillislee from UF, Barner from Oregon, someone in that mold.

Also we need a LB'er way higher than the 4th. Haven't heard many good things about Gooden from the Senior Bowl but Khaseem Green is tearing it up.

 

[vancelot23]

I'd still hate it. Marvin Jones IS the "downfield threat" you're talking about. Sanu struggles with separation. Jones does not. The problem is that Dalton missed him. If Dalton can't hit them, it doesn't matter if a young Randy Moss is out there.

 

[DanBengalfan]

Marvin Jones has appeared to struggle at times I think, but he is just a rookie, and he was a refreshing change from Binns/Tate, he should improve over the next few years.

Sanu became a difference maker when he got the chance, based on the pattern that rookie wide outs rarely get to make much of a difference their first year, I expect Sanu to improve on it, and I'm not sure what the excitement about drafting a WR in the second round is. In all likelihood, a second round receiver will not start day 1, and will be gently worked into the offense over the course of a full season. What if we draft someone in the second round and they treat him the way they did numnuts Simpson?

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Justin Hunter isn't falling to pick 2b. More than likely he won't be available at 2a. I also don't know about Te'o or Reid. Reid had a lot of lapses in coverage and made absolutely stupid plays and penalties a lot. I just watched 3 game tapes on him this morning. I'm in the process of watching game tape on Te'o. If you take that Bama tape away he is a top 10 pick. Should that 1 game out weigh the rest of the year or is it an anomaly?

And you know my thoughts on Ball. But more than that, he doesn't give us the change of pace, homerun back we need. He is no better than BJGE in that regard. We need a speed guy. Franklin from UCLA, Gillislee from UF, Barner from Oregon, someone in that mold.

Also we need a LB'er way higher than the 4th. Haven't heard many good things about Gooden from the Senior Bowl but Khaseem Green is tearing it up.

Like I said, I was just basing that off that draft and another one that mentioned T'eo maybe being able to fall as far as us due to his NC game and this big ol' controversy.

If that could happen, and Reid falls to early second, (he is projected there to late first), and Hunter makes it to 2B like the one mock suggested then all of that is possible. Has to have a lot of shit line up perfectly for that to happen, but I suppose it is possible.

Reid is only a junior, so he is younger, was still one of the top safeties in the league, plays in the fast SEC. I know what you are saying, but I just do not agree with it completely. I do not mind some personal foul penalties, as they mean he is strong and aggressive. That reputation could make WR's or TE's look upfield before hauling the ball in. Footsteps in your mind is a terrible thing to hear when going over the middle.

I think we need a change of pace back, yes, but I think we need a better BJGE, so my obsession with Ball is not to compliment BJGE but to replace him, split workload to each can stay healthy, and then get a home run hitter for the 3rd back on the depth chart.

I will be honest, I know very little about Gooden other than he once was timed in the 40 yard dash at 4.33, which is ridiculous for a LB and one his size. He would definitely be the SAM backer if he is not atrocious in coverage. There is a lot you can teach, speed is not one of those, and it wouldn't require a position change.

 

[cincygrad]

I'd still hate it. Marvin Jones IS the "downfield threat" you're talking about. Sanu struggles with separation. Jones does not. The problem is that Dalton missed him. If Dalton can't hit them, it doesn't matter if a young Randy Moss is out there.

What makes you say Marvin Jones is a 'down-field' threat. He had 18 catches and less than 12 YPC.

One of the major criticisms of Jones in his pre-draft scouting report was concern about his 'home-run' ability and questionable vertical speed.

 

[vancelot23]

I watched him get deep more than once, beating his man. Dalton just missed him.

 

[vancelot23]

BTW, from Ryan Lownes, draftbreakdown.com and bleacher report: 1.) Arthur Brown - #KansasState - Rangy, athletic backer shines in coverage and vs. the run. Could project at either ILB/OLB. 1st Round

 

[Tubbs1518]

What makes you think adding another "deep threat" is going to make teams respect Dalton's deep ball? It won't if he can't hit it consistently and he can't.

 

[JohnRandle]

I don't really pay attention to these collage players until after the combine. So I don't know who's who.
But what do you guys think of Da'rick Rogers, and how early, or late are you thinking he'll go? Vikes need a big WR, and the kid looks like a solid pick, just wondering if he'll be around late 2nd round?

 

[cincygrad]

So just because you 'watched' a few plays where you say he beat his man, we should then ignore the opinion of those that scouted him in college?

I think we can do better at second receiver. That's my point.

BTW -- I think we can do better at qb too, but it's not happening.

 

[vancelot23]

But we have other needs. Can't afford to make luxury picks. We need a running game far more than yet another WR

 

[Tubbs1518]

Da'Rick Rogers is prob a 3rd round guy right now, but if he has a big combine I wouldn't be surprised to see him jump to the mid 2nd round.

 

[augustisback003]

But we have other needs. Can't afford to make luxury picks. We need a running game far more than yet another WR

Actually the run game took off as soon as Trevor Robinson was inserted into the starting lineup. But as soon as Kyle Cook came back from injury the running game took a nose dive. Coincidence? I think not! Replace Cook and the run game improves.