Game Thread: Montreal Canadiens(2) vs. New York Rangers(2) | ECF

[Comeds]

You think you guys are upset, there goes my goalie in the SportsHoopla playoff draft.

Damn, that puts it all in perspective.

 

[Johnnydollaz89]

What's funny is if Lundqvist had been on the recieving end of that, Johnny would be on here demanding a public excecution....Oh well, if you are happy about the Rags winning this way, congratulations.

It was fucking accidental. But then again, I guess you'd be able to stop on a dime, skating that fast and having Emelin's stick between your legs.

Do people honestly think Kreider wasn't trying to score on that play? Both Ray Ferraro and Mike Johnson both think it's a stretch to think Kreider intended to injure Price on that breakaway.

200!

Marty, he's a Ranger. His ONLY intent was to injure him. Isn't that obvious?

 

[DragonfromTO]

Do people honestly think Kreider wasn't trying to score on that play? Both Ray Ferraro and Mike Johnson both think it's a stretch to think Kreider intended to injure Price on that breakaway.

200!

Of course I think he was trying to score, but trying to score and recklessly running into the goalie aren't mutually exclusive events.

 

[dare2be]

Do people honestly think Kreider wasn't trying to score on that play? Both Ray Ferraro and Mike Johnson both think it's a stretch to think Kreider intended to injure Price on that breakaway.

200!

It may not have been intentional, but it was exceedingly reckless for him to think he could change the laws of physics and not plow into the goalie the way he did.

EDIT:

 

[DragonfromTO]

It was fucking accidental. But then again, I guess you'd be able to stop on a dime, skating that fast and having Emelin's stick between your legs.



Marty, he's a Ranger. His ONLY intent was to injure him. Isn't that obvious?

Iron Law #7: Foreseeable consequences are not unintended

 

[mattola]

Good form. Got one knee pinning him down and in position to "groin" him. Other knee providing a solid base for your arm swings.

Oh, and DA BEARS!

Ref intercepted at punch 9 I think lol

 

[Johnnydollaz89]

Look, i'd admit when I was wrong and have done so countless #'s of times on here. All biased aside, and once again, as usual, i'm going 1 vs 10 here. I don't see it as being intentional. Kreider beat 2 DEFENDERS and was tripped up by one, going hard to the net. It was a freak injury, one I wish didn't happen. Have nothing against Price, he's one of the better goalies in the league. It sucks it happened.

 

[esls79]

The problem with plays like this is the skater has a full head of steam, what is a goalie to do - if he stands his ground, he's gonna get plowed, and he still has to play it to make a save - it's a no win situation for a goalie. Same with guys doing those power moves out of the corner to the top of the blue paint - either the goalie has to sit on his heels and play deep or risk being bowled over by the attacking playing and probably one of his d-men.

The problem with today's NHL is no goalie will stand up for himself and fight back except for Ray Emery. If skaters can essentially do this unpunished with an occasional 2 minute minor as the worst result, where is the incentive to not essentially run the goalie? Is not running the goalie part of the "code" I was unaware of?

With that being said, I hope Tokarski gets the start tonight - I saw him play against the Ducks earlier this season and he looked really good.

 

[mattola]

 

[mattola]

You think you guys are upset, there goes my goalie in the SportsHoopla playoff draft.

Shut the front door. Now I know it was intentional from Kreider.

 

[forty_three]

Of course I think he was trying to score, but trying to score and recklessly running into the goalie aren't mutually exclusive events.

This ^

I don't think he started the play intending to run into Price. There was no intent to injure. But his skates did leave the ice in a way that I, someone who has had a number of players come barreling in on me, sees as Kreider taking an opportunity to make contact and have it look accidental or be able to be blamed on other contact. Dangerous, reckless play.

Looks to me like the pressure that Emelin exerted on Kreider pushed Kreider forward at first, so using the physics of the hit, Kreider should have gone in head first, not feet first if Emelin was a factor in the incident.

And viewed as an isolated incident, maybe this one incident can be excused as a "hockey play". But the number of times that goalies have been hit and injured in eerily similar plays by Rangers in general and Kreider in specific raises the BS-O-meter. Emery and Mason both got hit. Fleury was bowled over. Smith. Anderson.

There was a time when Matt Cooke had only made one questionable play that could have been excused. But history has changed the way we see him.

TL : DR: Reality is a hater.

 

[mattola]

Didn't mean to hurt him but sure as heck didn't try to get out of the way

 

[Johnnydollaz89]

Glad I can be of entertainment, Matty!

 

[BlueWolfZero]

Look, i'd admit when I was wrong and have done so countless #'s of times on here. All biased aside, and once again, as usual, i'm going 1 vs 10 here. I don't see it as being intentional. Kreider beat 2 DEFENDERS and was tripped up by one, going hard to the net. It was a freak injury, one I wish didn't happen. Have nothing against Price, he's one of the better goalies in the league. It sucks it happened.

That would be a nice explanation, save for as the video evidence linked by Forty shows, this isn't the first time Kreider and the Rangers have "accidentally" injured a number one goalie.

 

[Johnnydollaz89]

The problem with plays like this is the skater has a full head of steam, what is a goalie to do - if he stands his ground, he's gonna get plowed, and he still has to play it to make a save - it's a no win situation for a goalie. Same with guys doing those power moves out of the corner to the top of the blue paint - either the goalie has to sit on his heels and play deep or risk being bowled over by the attacking playing and probably one of his d-men.

The problem with today's NHL is no goalie will stand up for himself and fight back except for Ray Emery. If skaters can essentially do this unpunished with an occasional 2 minute minor as the worst result, where is the incentive to not essentially run the goalie? Is not running the goalie part of the "code" I was unaware of?

With that being said, I hope Tokarski gets the start tonight - I saw him play against the Ducks earlier this season and he looked really good.

I believe he was just named the starter.

 

[dash]

Didn't mean to hurt him but sure as heck didn't try to get out of the way

And just over a month ago, Brendan Gallagher of the Habs did the exact same thing to Jhonas Enroth ending his season (I can't find the video on youtube, but they have showed it on TSN at least a half dozen times). He made a power move towards the net, lost his balance, and hit Enroth skates first.

Maybe we should wrap all the players within protective bubbles

 

[forty_three]

Me and BlueWolf agree on something.

 

[BlueWolfZero]

At any rate, justice would be Tokarski coming in and turning the lights out. But reality is the Rangers have won the series now

 

[DragonfromTO]

At any rate, justice would be Tokarski coming in and turning the lights out. But reality is the Rangers have won the series now

Where is Steve Penney when you need him?

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Where is Steve Penney when you need him?

Fuck steve penny

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