Mock Draft 2.0

[Cincyfan78]

Phillip Dorsett is a flat out play maker. He would be ideal in the slot. A better Hawkins in the slot that could also slide out and play some on the outside. Would be a perfect guy to use some of those screens, end-arounds, etc...the guy is electric with the ball in his hands.

 

[augustisback003]

Have you ever watched them actually play? Care to share any additional insight than just 40 time? Siting only 40 is retarded and get you guys like Darious Heyward-Bay on your team.

Yes, I've seen them play. That's why I said their names. Of all the WR's I could have listed why do you think I'm talking about those guys? Because I know who they are. How in the World do you not know who they are? Oh, I forgot. Because you have no idea what you're talking about. How about actually watching some football instead of sitting on a chat board being a douche.

1. Tyler Lockett 106 rec 1515 yds 11 tds 4.35 sec
http://www.bringonthecats.com/kansa...015-nfl-combine-final-report-on-tyler-lockett

2. Josh Harper 90 rec 1097 yds 7 tds 4.54 sec

3. Tony Lippett 65 rec 1198 yds 11tds 4.6 sec

 

[augustisback003]

This was just posted on ESPN notice some familiar names? (Dorsett and Lockett)


Notable combine numbers for potential Bengals targets


OFFENSIVE TACKLES

Ereck Flowers, Miami (Florida): The 6-foot-6, 329-pounder earned the title of strongest man at this year's combine after his 37 repetitions of 225 pounds in the bench press. As great as those numbers were, they weren't enough to pass the previous bench king, Russell Bodine. The current Bengals center had 42 reps at last year's combine. That display of strength caught the Bengals' attention, and helped convince them to take him in the fourth round.

Jake Fisher, Oregon: A "top performer" in four categories, Fisher was clearly among the more athletic offensive linemen at the combine. It's possible he won't be on the board when the Bengals pick at No. 21, but his agility could make him a good option for them. At 6-foot-6, 306 pounds, he's lighter than Cincinnati normally drafts at the tackle position. Perhaps that weight helped him post some of the best numbers among offensive linemen in the vertical jump, 40-yard dash, the three-cone drill, and the 20-yard shuttle.

La'el Collins, LSU: Although he didn't reach "top performer" status in any area, Collins helped himself. He was close in a couple areas. His 40-yard time of 5.12 seconds wasn't far off the offensive line-low of 4.98.

WIDE RECEIVERS

J.J. Nelson, Alabama-Birmingham: He might not be drafted, but Nelson made a case for why he should be. He had the nation's top kick-returning average last season, so he's versatile. The 5-foot-10, 156-pounder helped himself by posting the fastest pre-Monday 40 time with a 4.28. He also had the fifth-longest broad jump at 127 inches. The Bengals want fast receivers, and he could be a good Day 3 or post-draft option.

Phillip Dorsett, Miami (Florida): Dorsett has been among the favorite targets among receivers to go in the late-first or second round, namely because of his speed. He posted the second-fastest 40 time at 4.33 seconds. A 5-foot-10, 185-pound slot-receiver type, teams probably will scrutinize his hands among other areas to determine if he really is worth being drafted in the second round or earlier.

Nelson Agholor, USC: Only participating in two events (the 40-yard dash and the bench press), Agholor didn't place as a "top performer." His 40 time of 4.42 seconds tied for seventh-fastest among receivers, and his 12 bench reps were right in the middle of the receiver pack.

Tyler Lockett, Kansas State: One of the more athletic receivers, Lockett was a "top performer" in three categories, placing in the top 5 in the 40-yard time, and the 20- and 60-yard shuttles. His 4.40 40 was the fifth-fastest at his position.

Devin Smith, Ohio State: Smith didn't stand out much in combine testing and might have hurt his potential first-round status. His 40-yard time was notable, though, as he tied Agholor's 4.42.

DEFENSIVE LINEMEN/LINEBACKERS

Bud Dupree, Kentucky: Listed as a linebacker at the combine, the hybrid edge rusher was a "top performer" in all three events in which he participated. He ran a 4.56-second 40, had a 42-inch vertical, and a 138-inch broad jump.

Vic Beasley, Clemson: It still seems likely the Bengals go elsewhere, but Beasley showed why he would be a great pickup late in the first round. He was in the top 5 at his position of every drill he went through, even posting the linebackers' low of 4.53 seconds in the 40, and the high in bench with 35.
http://espn.go.com/blog/cincinnati-bengals

 

[cincygrad]

I think we're getting close to the name-calling portion of the mock-draft thread.

 

[cincygrad]

 

[augustisback003]

I don't think Marvin will draft a wide receiver under 6 foot in the first few rounds.... Just a hunch.

The receivers we have drafted under Marvin are Kelly Washington, Chris Henry, Andre Caldwell, Jordan Shipley, AJ Green, Mohammed Sanu, Marvin Jones, Cobi Hamilton and James Wright.

Shipley was a small guy and Caldwell wasn't big. The rest were either lanky athletes or big dudes.....

Normally that would be a true statement Grad but the elite WR's this year are the smaller quicker guys like Odell Beckham Jr. And once again Lockett's name is mention.

Bengals could eye receivers with return ability

Yes, the Cincinnati Bengals are targeting receivers in this year's draft.

But no, they aren't going after tall, jump-ball threats like A.J. Green.

With Green lining up on one edge and Marvin Jonesand Mohamed Sanu expected to return as legitimate Nos. 2 and 3 options at the position behind the Pro Bowler, the Bengals have no reason to look for a long, above 6-foot wideout.

Instead, they're on the hunt for shifty and explosive playmakers. They can be 5-foot-2 or 5-foot-10 for all head coach Marvin Lewis and offensive coordinator Hue Jackson care. They just want the receiver(s) they draft to be able to run fast and elude defenses -- and likely special-teams units.

As the Bengals continue their pre-draft evaluations, expect them to eye wideouts who also can return kicks and punts.

"That's an area we would always like to fill," Lewis said about adding returners for special-teams coordinator Darren Simmons. "Darren ends up sometimes being a little frustrated about that because we don't quite end up getting that filled as well as we maybe could."

That seems to suggest the Bengals are placing a greater emphasis on adding a new return specialist this year. Brandon Tate, the team's primary kick returner since his arrival in 2011, is eligible for free agency. Cornerback Adam Jones is expected to remain the top punt returner, but he would need a new backup if Tate isn't re-signed.

"It's always been an emphasis," Lewis said. "It just happens to fall into place that that guy's role is a little larger than maybe it seems."

So maybe the push for getting a receiver who can double as a kick/punt returner is the same it's been in recent years, but it certainly appears the Bengals would favor draft prospects who have a returner's background.

When Jackson detailed to reporters last week his ideal receiver target, he could have been talking about any one of the players in the accompanying graph.

"He has to be a playmaker that is fast," Jackson said. "I don't think it's about size. We have big guys already.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/162356/bengals-could-eye-receivers-with-return-ability

 

[augustisback003]

I think we're getting close to the name-calling portion of the mock-draft thread.

LOL! Naw, it's good.

 

[kramer1]

I think we're getting close to the name-calling portion of the mock-draft thread.

You're an idiot.

 

[cincygrad]

I'll believe it when I see it. We passed on Deshaun Jackson so we could select Jerome Simpson. Marvin will be perfectly content to re-sign Brandon Tate and roll him back out there for returns.

 

[Tubbs1518]

Not saying I believe it but,

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5140/player

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Not saying I believe it but,

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5140/player

I found this link under your link.

25 top NFL coaches

11. Marvin Lewis

Career Record: 100-90-2 (.526)

With The Bengals Since: 2003

Last Year’s Ranking: 12


Your first clue as to Lewis’ long, strange trip as Bengals head coach lies in his record. Two ties. That’s a remarkable feat for a man who has coached all of his football in the 21st century. Another remarkable feat? A winning record over 12 seasons with one of the losingest, cheapest franchises in NFL history. By now you know the defining statistic of Lewis’ career. Six playoff appearances, zero playoff victories. .000 in the postseason is hard to figure for a man who is .526 during the regular campaign. Another way to look at it? You try making the playoffs four-straight seasons with Andy Dalton. You try going 10-5-1 one year after both coordinators departed to become head coaches. Should Lewis be judged by his postseason eggs, or all the impressive seasons that have gotten him there? 0-for-6 is ridiculous. Even more ridiculous is ignoring the job Lewis has done to pull Cincinnati from the depths of the NFL, making them an annual contender in the league’s most consistently-competitive division.


That was pretty interesting I thought.

 

[cincygrad]

Fuck.... Looks like Hobs has stolen Crash's SportsHoopla identity again. Anyone want to alert the authorities?

 

[augustisback003]

Here is an article from Bengals.com that would confirm my suspicions regarding our offseason. One, I have a strong feeling we'll be awarded multiple comp picks for losing Johnson and Collins to the Bucs. And two, that a WR will be selected early probably 1st or 2nd Rounds depending on who's (Kevin White, Phillip Dorsett) available.

excerpt~

The Bengals have a chance to knock off a big portion of their off-season needs in the first three rounds, when they should get four picks.

(They’ll find out next month how their free-agent compensatory draft picks line up, but they’re for sure looking at a third-round selection for the loss of defensive end Michael Johnson. They could get a fourth if the Anthony Collins-Marshall Newhouse swap works in their favor in the byzantine free-agent formula.)

When everyone got sent home from Indy Monday, their needs appeared to line up with what is available. It’s a good draft for tackles, edge rushers, and wide receivers that can run. It’s also not bad for linebackers, but that may take a more little time to figure out because of the hybrid question. But as long as you’re not taking a projection in the first round, you’re OK.

There doesn’t appear to be a franchise left tackle in this crop, but there are plenty of versatile guys in the first two rounds or so.



So anything goes in the first two rounds and that even means wide receiver in the second round even though they already have three that are established in A.J. Green, Marvin Jones, and Mohamed Sanu.
http://www.bengals.com/news/article...7f-d3c070019cc9?campaign=cin:fanshare:twitter

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Fuck.... Looks like Hobs has stolen Crash's SportsHoopla identity again. Anyone want to alert the authorities?

Interesting I mean in the fact I don't agree with any of it. LOL

 

[Tubbs1518]

Here is an article from Bengals.com that would confirm my suspicions regarding our offseason. One, I have a strong feeling we'll be awarded multiple comp picks for losing Johnson and Collins to the Bucs. And two, that a WR will be selected early probably 1st or 2nd Rounds depending on who's (Kevin White, Phillip Dorsett) available.

excerpt~

The Bengals have a chance to knock off a big portion of their off-season needs in the first three rounds, when they should get four picks.

(They’ll find out next month how their free-agent compensatory draft picks line up, but they’re for sure looking at a third-round selection for the loss of defensive end Michael Johnson. They could get a fourth if the Anthony Collins-Marshall Newhouse swap works in their favor in the byzantine free-agent formula.)

When everyone got sent home from Indy Monday, their needs appeared to line up with what is available. It’s a good draft for tackles, edge rushers, and wide receivers that can run. It’s also not bad for linebackers, but that may take a more little time to figure out because of the hybrid question. But as long as you’re not taking a projection in the first round, you’re OK.

There doesn’t appear to be a franchise left tackle in this crop, but there are plenty of versatile guys in the first two rounds or so.



So anything goes in the first two rounds and that even means wide receiver in the second round even though they already have three that are established in A.J. Green, Marvin Jones, and Mohamed Sanu.
http://www.bengals.com/news/article...7f-d3c070019cc9?campaign=cin:fanshare:twitter

There is absolutely 0 chance Kevin White falls anywhere near us.