MLB One Player Per Team Draft : CHAT

[MilkSpiller22]

Yeah I liked having a outfield of Mays and Musial last time.

But I'm gonna give loading up on pitching a shot. I haven't done it before. And really idk if anyone has to the extreme I am.

Just giving it a shot lol

Hockey, you better have a good bullpen too... Honestly, I think bullpen is just as important in these drafts as rotation... But I know I am the only one with that feeling...

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Hockey, you better have a good bullpen too... Honestly, I think bullpen is just as important in these drafts as rotation... But I know I am the only one with that feeling...

It's not even close to important lol.

You want a good bullpen. But the starters pitch more.

 

[broncosmitty]

You having three starters did cause me to draft back to back pitchers last time. I'm confident Maddux and Bob can hang right there.

I'm really confident with my lineup against yours so far. Hahaha.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

You having three starters did cause me to draft back to back pitchers last time. I'm confident Maddux and Bob can hang right there.

I'm really confident with my lineup against yours so far. Hahaha.

They are absolutely capable was hoping 1 of them would fall to me.

Will now probably added to my vaunted lineup!!

 

[MilkSpiller22]

It's not even close to important lol.

You want a good bullpen. But the starters pitch more.

yes, BUT with all these great offenses the starting pitcher should not be expected to go past 6 innings(even if you are starting an elite pitcher)... That means Bullpen should be pitching at LEAST 1/3 of the game... So yes, I admit I was caught in an over exaggeration, but Bullpens in these Mocks are super important, and worth more than 1/3 of your pitching value...

 

[UK Cowboy]

yes, BUT with all these great offenses the starting pitcher should not be expected to go past 6 innings(even if you are starting an elite pitcher)... That means Bullpen should be pitching at LEAST 1/3 of the game... So yes, I admit I was caught in an over exaggeration, but Bullpens in these Mocks are super important, and worth more than 1/3 of your pitching value...

This is always the debate, I'm on the other side. A great MLB hitter might have a career .300 average. Less than 20% of those at bats are against #1 starters, and less than 20% of those 20% are against all time aces. I think more runs would be scored because of the depth of the lineups, but all time great pitchers always have the advantage IMO

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I actually value these teams 40% starting lineup, 30%rotation, 20% Bullpen, 10% Bench...

With more measurements inside each subgroup(starting lineup, Rotation, Bullpen, Bench)

 

[MilkSpiller22]

This is always the debate, I'm on the other side. A great MLB hitter might have a career .300 average. Less than 20% of those at bats are against #1 starters, and less than 20% of those 20% are against all time aces. I think more runs would be scored because of the depth of the lineups, but all time great pitchers always have the advantage IMO

So do you think your pitchers can go more than 6 innings?? This is actually why I love drafting players with High OBPs, your pitcher is not going to last long with hitters who constantly work the count...

 

[Nosferatu]

yes, BUT with all these great offenses the starting pitcher should not be expected to go past 6 innings(even if you are starting an elite pitcher)... That means Bullpen should be pitching at LEAST 1/3 of the game... So yes, I admit I was caught in an over exaggeration, but Bullpens in these Mocks are super important, and worth more than 1/3 of your pitching value...

Anybody get the feeling Milk is gonna start drafting his pen soon and he's trying to let us know we need to recognize how good it will be???

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Well UK snagging Brett forced me to go get another pitcher!!

I had 3 guys I wanted and was gonna offer to trade up to get all 3. But Brett is gone.

 

[Nosferatu]

Oh the pitching vs hitting debate, one I love. Everything UK just said is true but also remember that its even a lower % for pitchers pitching against great hitters, pitchers pitch to other pitchers they pitch to the Nick Punto's of the world so just looking at it from one side is wrong IMO. If pitchers had to face lineups of the best players of all time their numbers would look nothing like they do now.

 

[UK Cowboy]

So do you think your pitchers can go more than 6 innings?? This is actually why I love drafting players with High OBPs, your pitcher is not going to last long with hitters who constantly work the count...

Absolutely, and to Nos point as well, which is valid. ERA's would definitely be higher. Let's say an All time P had a career ERA of 2.0. Let's say their ERA DOUBLED......and they were giving up 4......you'd stick with them in the 6th when they've given up 3-4 runs(instead of 1-2) because the career 3.5 ERA guy is now giving up 7. Final scores might be higher, but greater pitchers will still give up less runs than really good pitchers

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Anybody get the feeling Milk is gonna start drafting his pen soon and he's trying to let us know we need to recognize how good it will be???

Not sure why it is a feeling... Just look at the other drafts, and you will see I have always had the best bullpen, if not the best then 2nd best...

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Absolutely, and to Nos point as well, which is valid. ERA's would definitely be higher. Let's say an All time P had a career ERA of 2.0. Let's say their ERA DOUBLED......and they were giving up 4......you'd stick with them in the 6th when they've given up 3-4 runs(instead of 1-2) because the career 3.5 ERA guy is now giving up 7. Final scores might be higher, but greater pitchers will still give up less runs than really good pitchers

But here is the thing, when there is great players behind these elite players, and the fact that we are doing 5 man rotations, no manager would let any of these pitchers go 110+ pitches unless they have been lights out all game... So chances are if they let up 4 runs, they will likely hit that 110 pitches sooner... And it doesn't matter if we are talking walter Johnson or Pedro Martinez, they will both likely have the same leash...

 

[Gold Rush 86]

Not sure why it is a feeling... Just look at the other drafts, and you will see I have always had the best bullpen, if not the best then 2nd best...

Not sure about the best bullpen. I think I had Rivera in back to back drafts and other good relief pitchers also.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

But here is the thing, when there is great players behind these elite players, and the fact that we are doing 5 man rotations, no manager would let any of these pitchers go 110+ pitches unless they have been lights out all game... So chances are if they let up 4 runs, they will likely hit that 110 pitches sooner... And it doesn't matter if we are talking walter Johnson or Pedro Martinez, they will both likely have the same leash...

Umm. Having 5 man rotations would make them more likely to pitch longer into games. They won't be needed to pull a bumgarner and win 3-4 games single hAndely.

So your last couple can leave it all out there forsure.

 

[Nosferatu]

Milk, pitch count? Do you think Walter Johnson had a pitch count? These guys would throw 200 pitches a game with regularity.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Umm. Having 5 man rotations would make them more likely to pitch longer into games. They won't be needed to pull a bumgarner and win 3-4 games single hAndely.

So your last couple can leave it all out there forsure.

I guess this is where we would disagree... I feel like in these mocks where we are all going to be super strong, pitching deep into games is going to be near impossible... and with Bullpens and rest of rotation that is going to be very strong, I don't see why any good manager would allow these pitchers to go deep into games unless they are totally dominating...

 

[Ritzarmy]

Milk, pitch count? Do you think Walter Johnson had a pitch count? These guys would throw 200 pitches a game with regularity.

Thanks Nos for answering my text. Waited 25min to make sure the 2 players I picked could play at #1 and #2 hitter but no response from you.

That's it I quit.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

That's it I quit.

Thats saying a lot