Game Thread: Miami Heat Game Thread for December/January

[Andresrenee]

Also, our defensive scheme is flawed in a 3 point shooting league. We play percentages and in this league that may not be the smartest thing to do. Oh well, you live and you learn. They need a Riley intervention.

 

[Andresrenee]

Highly doubt it. Memphis is not a good team to be honest with you.....And considering how bad Memphis have looked this year and also that we have played solid at home and been in every single game, to say Memphis smoke us is pretty ridiculous. If OKC at full strength could not smoke us at home, no way in hell is Memphis who is not playing good basketball this year is going to come here and blow us out.

Ok - and we are playing well? LOL. This does not appear to be a team right now. Bosh and Wade shooting up shots now. One starter plays nothing in the 4th and Spooestra has no answers. Let's see what happens.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Hard to win in this league scoring 81 and 83 points.

They need a coach to strictly the offense because Spo cannot coach offense unless he has Lebron James on his team.

In this day and age, if you're struggling to score 95 PPG, you can't be successful in this league.

That goes on Riley more then Spoelstra IMO.

If Gerald Green is your go to 3 point shooter, then most nights you won't be very effective.

Sometimes to get pure shooters you need to be willing to overlook defensive ability.

If you are scoring in the 80s with a top rated D and still getting blown out, then the top rated D is nothing but a meaningless stat.

Our bad offense leads to so many stupid turnovers that on those possessions we can't even try to set up our D.

This seasons lost if they don't make a move to get a pure shooter or 2 before it's too late IMO.

 

[bksballer89]

Ok - and we are playing well? LOL. This does not appear to be a team right now. Bosh and Wade shooting up shots now. One starter plays nothing in the 4th and Spooestra has no answers. Let's see what happens.

This is a different team at home. If you can't see that after a month plus of the season I'm not sure what to tell you. We're a good team and a bad road team.

If Memphis win by 15+, I disappear from this board for a week and if Miami wins or Memphis win by single digits, you disappear for a month....You know since you're so confident a team with basically the same record is going to come into Miami and blow us out.

Deal bro?

 

[bksballer89]

That goes on Riley more then Spoelstra IMO.

If Gerald Green is your go to 3 point shooter, then most nights you won't be very effective.

Sometimes to get pure shooters you need to be willing to overlook defensive ability.

If you are scoring in the 80s with a top rated D and still getting blown out, then the top rated D is nothing but a meaningless stat.

Our bad offense leads to so many stupid turnovers that on those possessions we can't even try to set up our D.

This seasons lost if they don't make a move to get a pure shooter or 2 before it's too late IMO.

No doubt. Unless things change, were looking like a 6 or 7 seed

 

[Andresrenee]

This is a different team at home. If you can't see that after a month plus of the season I'm not sure what to tell you. We're a good team and a bad road team.

If Memphis win by 15+, I disappear from this board for a week and if Miami wins or Memphis win by single digits, you disappear for a month....You know since you're so confident a team with basically the same record is going to come into Miami and blow us out.

Deal bro?

15 points is a ton in the NBA. 7 points and you have a deal? The loser disappears till 2016 and the other is left with Paolo?! Not sure which is worse. Hope you win honestly because I want the Heat to win but I have a bad feeling.

 

[bksballer89]

15 points is a ton in the NBA. 7 points and you have a deal? The loser disappears till 2016 and the other is left with Paolo?! Not sure which is worse. Hope you win honestly because I want the Heat to win but I have a bad feeling.

deal.

 

[Andresrenee]

No doubt. Unless things change, were looking like a 6 or 7 seed

Computers - see 538s are predicting us to finish under 500 and miss playoffs.

 

[bksballer89]

Computers - see 538s are predicting us to finish under 500 and miss playoffs.

we'll see

 

[Paolo305613]

Decided to be inactive on the boards because a couple of guys in here have remained sensitive when I make comments while I am trying to be peaceful. I appreciate those of you who have held back in not getting aggressive for no reason.

Another frustrating loss but they earned every bit of it. Maybe not having the few points we get from TJ and McRob didn't help our cause - amazing how much you miss a guy you probably usually trash when he doesn't play, eh?

Wade and CB played well - but at times seemed to be pressing to make up for last game - especially Wade as far as his shooting was concerned. Yes, he scored 20 but he still had a high volume of his usual forced up shots. His turnovers were kept in check tonight with just 2.

Turnovers were a huge problem for the Heat tonight and ultimately what killed them as E-Reid said, though someone will put it all on Spo, of course.

The most frustrating part of tonight was that a lot of our turnovers were really unforced -- which often happens to the Heat.

We fell in love with the 3 early and continued to even though we were stinking it up there. We only attempted 13 FTs, missing 5. Between the lack of ball movement, settling for shots, and the turnovers, thats a contributing factor to a lopsided margin in the FT category.

And ball movement was greatly lacking again. Thats the bad part of having Wade and CB both struggling in a previous game - they will want to get going the next game and the ball movement tends to suffer a bit in those situations.

Hassan With early foul trouble hurting himself and the team again. Frustration is not his friend. Doing to much again. Like I said earlier, when he doesn't get the ball initially where he wants, he needs to work on the art of reposting in the paint and working to get the ball again in better position for him to do what he does. A lot of his turnovers are not just because he attempts passes he shouldn't - but because he loses the ball inside trying to do too much when he doesn't have it in the spots he wants it initially.

As far as seeding goes - why bother with that shit this early in the season? We move a few spots up or down on a nightly depending on a win or a loss. No one is running away with the east just yet - I think most teams in the playoff picture of the east are only separated by 2 games at most.

As of tonight, the Heat are STILL NOT eliminated from playoff contention. All is not lost.

On to face Rio and the Memphis Grizzles on Sunday. Better hope he doesn't make us regret trading him , at least on Sunday. James Ennis was recently sent down to D-League by them.

 

[Paolo305613]

Computers - see 538s are predicting us to finish under 500 and miss playoffs.

Where are the Heat currently ranked in the BCS standings " computers" guy? Apparently the BCS is apart of determining the fate of NBA teams now.

 

[bksballer89]

Likely to be 13-10 at the end of this stretch. Thinking we win Sunday and lose Monday in Atlanta

 

[Andresrenee]

Decided to be inactive on the boards because a couple of guys in here have remained sensitive when I make comments while I am trying to be peaceful. I appreciate those of you who have held back in not getting aggressive for no reason.

Another frustrating loss but they earned every bit of it. Maybe not having the few points we get from TJ and McRob didn't help our cause - amazing how much you miss a guy you probably usually trash when he doesn't play, eh?

Wade and CB played well - but at times seemed to be pressing to make up for last game - especially Wade as far as his shooting was concerned. Yes, he scored 20 but he still had a high volume of his usual forced up shots. His turnovers were kept in check tonight with just 2.

Turnovers were a huge problem for the Heat tonight and ultimately what killed them as E-Reid said, though someone will put it all on Spo, of course.

The most frustrating part of tonight was that a lot of our turnovers were really unforced -- which often happens to the Heat.

We fell in love with the 3 early and continued to even though we were stinking it up there. We only attempted 13 FTs, missing 5. Between the lack of ball movement, settling for shots, and the turnovers, thats a contributing factor to a lopsided margin in the FT category.

And ball movement was greatly lacking again. Thats the bad part of having Wade and CB both struggling in a previous game - they will want to get going the next game and the ball movement tends to suffer a bit in those situations.

Hassan With early foul trouble hurting himself and the team again. Frustration is not his friend. Doing to much again. Like I said earlier, when he doesn't get the ball initially where he wants, he needs to work on the art of reposting in the paint and working to get the ball again in better position for him to do what he does. A lot of his turnovers are not just because he attempts passes he shouldn't - but because he loses the ball inside trying to do too much when he doesn't have it in the spots he wants it initially.


As far as seeding goes - why bother with that shit this early in the season? We move a few spots up or down on a nightly depending on a win or a loss. No one is running away with the east just yet - I think most teams in the playoff picture of the east are only separated by 2 games at most.

As of tonight, the Heat are STILL NOT eliminated from playoff contention. All is not lost.

On to face Rio and the Memphis Grizzles on Sunday. Better hope he doesn't make us regret trading him , at least on Sunday. James Ennis was recently sent down to D-League by them.

plus one...actually a well laid out and thought out analysis.

 

[Paolo305613]

Forgot to mention that we lacked a great deal of scoring from the bench - Glad for G-Squared for stepping up but its often not a good thing for teams when certain guys lead their bench in scoring. But just 20 points off the bench is not good - especially when 13 is from just one guy.

Our magic numbers in FT shooting and assist should be 20+ - at least with assist, 20 -- anything below that, we didn't move the ball enough. I am sure we are a better team when we have 20 plus assist.

As for Dragic, It is my personal opinion that I see him stuck somewhere in the middle - it seems to me that he wants to play fast, but he seems hesitant because he may feel this team isn't quite fully built for that - that could be a contributor to his inconsistencies this season. Like it or not, thats why continuing to try different lineups throughout the course of games in the next few games might be necessary - to figure out if we can play at higher gears with certain lineups for us.

The Pacers controlled the pace and it was lethal

 

[Andresrenee]

Where are the Heat currently ranked in the BCS standings " computers" guy? Apparently the BCS is apart of determining the fate of NBA teams now.

Just sharing information Paolo. Data analytics is a big part of the game and something that our coaching staff really believes in. Multiple computers have predicted a likely sub 500 finish for our Heat. I don't disagree with you. Just sharing and sharing is caring.

 

[Paolo305613]

Just sharing information Paolo. Data analytics is a big part of the game and something that our coaching staff really believes in. Multiple computers have predicted a likely sub 500 finish for our Heat. I don't disagree with you. Just sharing and sharing is caring.

Interesting coming from you. Weren't you the one constantly complaining that this coaching staff didn't lean on analytics enough? You complain about so much nonsense its hard to keep up with.

Appreciate it from you and others - any stats or info or news that can be brought to the board - but, really - who gives a rats ass what the "computers" say about our playoff chances especially on December 11th and game 21 of 82. This isn't the BCS. And I am sure those " computers" spit out different numbers with every win and loss not just by the Heat but every other team in the league.

As long as the Heat are one of 8 teams rapping the east in the playoffs - I am sure we will all be satisfied. And I have a heck of a lot of faith we will be. And I won't lose that faith until I see an x next to the Heat in the standings followed by the words " eliminated from playoff contention"

On to Sunday.

 

[Paolo305613]

OK, I have one more than its on to sunday for real.

I am convinced , until further notice -- that this team greatly lacks the mental toughness necessary to overcome adversity throughout the course of games and beyond - its something I've said a lot during the big 3 era but its holding just as true now. This game was lost in that final three minute stretch of the third quarter - game got away from them and they got frustrated and could get back in it.

And, again, I will repeat this for the crowd that says I don't criticize Spo - I hate it when he calls timeouts when teams go on runs against us - not saying he should let them continue runs on us all the time - but, sometimes you just have to let your team play throughout and find its way without calling a timeout. Hopefully they grew some balls between now and Sunday 6pm EST.

Now, on to Sunday!

 

[bksballer89]

Just sharing information Paolo. Data analytics is a big part of the game and something that our coaching staff really believes in. Multiple computers have predicted a likely sub 500 finish for our Heat. I don't disagree with you. Just sharing and sharing is caring.

BTW Charlotte just went into Memphis and won by 24. This is the team you're scared about? You can back out now if you would like. I would totally understand.

 

[Paolo305613]

Spoelstra says Heat have to own struggles, 'get better at it'

The bags under the eyes of Spo are telling. He is obviously losing a great deal of sleep over these struggles. Some will suggest he does nothing to get this team out of a slump because he is stubborn or incapable or whatever crap - but this video tells me the guy is tirelessly trying but just can't seem to get a grasp on that key ingredient to turn it around. Maybe thats on the players? hmm...

OK im done

 

[Paolo305613]

BTW Charlotte just went into Memphis and won by 24. This is the team you're scared about? You can back out now if you would like. I would totally understand.

He probably thinks we will be a lottery team again