Game Thread: Miami Heat Game Thread for December/January

[Andresrenee]

Bosh tired of the Winslow calmness and lack of emotion particularly when he can't hit a wide open shot. Totally agree on Spolestra letting the other teams dictate the line up in the 4th. The dumbness thing I hear is how Spolestra made Wade. We saw last year what happens when Spolestra does not have 1 of the 5 best players in the world on his team. He can't deliver. Just plays the same ole D Riley thought him. Yes, he has some good set plays on out of bounds formations by that is about it on offense.

 

[Paolo305613]

Oh well. Our backcourt played well but still got outplayed by the young bucks. Two turnovers down the stetch by Dragic and Wade sealed our fate. Winslow had no business being out there. His defense was mediocre and his offense non-existant. They leave him open and the man can't knock down open shots. Did not like our rotation in the 3rd and 4th. Spolestra once again with no feel for the game. Wizards shows that going small and athlectic could be a problem for our defense. So much for 1st place in the division. Had them minus two key players and on a second night of back to back and could not get it done. Oh well, onto some tough road games. They better bring it.

On Winslow, it was a well known fact coming in that his jump shot needed work. He is a 19 year old rookie - who seems to have hit his first rookie wall. He will learn. It happens.

 

[Paolo305613]

Nighty night ladies

 

[Andresrenee]

On Winslow, it was a well known fact coming in that his jump shot needed work. He is a 19 year old rookie - who seems to have hit his first rookie wall. He will learn. It happens.

You don't play him down the stretch when he is stuggling on defense and offense......no feel Spolestra strikes again. Because Jefferson is not playing for Charlotte, I think Spolestra will just have Hassan stay in Miami. LOL!

 

[bksballer89]

Yeah Whiteside was pretty pissed. I don't blame him

 

[bksballer89]

Whiteside went 7-7...........only played 23 minutes

 

[Andresrenee]

Whiteside went 7-7...........only played 23 minutes

But, but Spolestra's computer told him to go small.....will cost us young Whiteside.

 

[bksballer89]

But, but Spolestra's computer told him to go small.....will cost us young Whiteside.

Yep with the way they're using him, there is no doubt he is gone in July

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Unless I missed something or someone was injured, Spoelstra pulled his worst performance of the season tonight.
No reason to let the Wiz dictate the pace of the game.
There's no way that in anyway gave us any advantage.
They have better athletes who are better shooters.

 

[Andresrenee]

Unless I missed something or someone was injured, Spoelstra pulled his worst performance of the season tonight.
No reason to let the Wiz dictate the pace of the game.
There's no way that in anyway gave us any advantage.
They have better athletes who are better shooters.

Are you sure? I can think of other boneheaded calls.......but we have Winslow who can play great defense and can knock an open 3 in there!!

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Are you sure? I can think of other boneheaded calls.......but we have Winslow who can play great defense and can knock an open 3 in there!!

I'm not going to put a ton of blame on Winslow, or the decision to give him some run.
For the most part he has been solid in those same spots.

All I know is that if I have Bosh /Whiteside and the best big the opponent can throw at me is Humphries, then I'm going to win or lose with the mismatch in my favor.

 

[Andresrenee]

You guys know how Spolestra coaches. Hassan is statistically -1.4 or -1.7 down the stretch, so the computer says don't play him down the stretch and we don't even if there is an obvious mismatch. We played to their strengths and not ours. Such is life.

 

[Paolo305613]

You don't play him down the stretch when he is stuggling on defense and offense......no feel Spolestra strikes again. Because Jefferson is not playing for Charlotte, I think Spolestra will just have Hassan stay in Miami. LOL!

You are the most unreasonable clueless idiot in the history of this board. I wonder if you actually watch the games, especially when they result in losses - or do you just look at the box score? I said this time and again, and most everyone would agree -- sometimes looking at the boxscore doesn't tell the whole story or do the game and players any justice. You have to watch the game to actually be able to give a reasonable analysis.

Winslow has been playing down the stretch virtually all season to this point. He has earned that right - most everyone would agree with that. He is a 19 year old rookie with only a year of college experience coming in - and maybe not even that as he did miss some games during that time. All rookies hit a rookie wall - it seems it has happened for him now - he will overcome it.

I know you think the only thing that makes a productive player is scoring and that doing nothing else on the court matters because thats what your boy D-Wade is all about - but there is more to it.

Obviously, this board is famous for blaming Spo for losses, blaming refs for losses and not holding players responsible. But here are some important factors as to why the Heat lost - 5 turnovers from your boyfriend Wade, 6 missed FTs as a team going 5-16 from 3, 17 turnovers. Thats recipe for disaster from the Heat. So, you can blame Spo, Winslow, no Hassan in the 4th, the refs all you want but the Heat lost this game on there own. They lost this game early on getting down late

 

[Paolo305613]

Anyway, enough of that. Hope you ladies got enough sleep and didn't use up all your vaseline on last nights loss. Bounce back tomorrow. It is only game 19 of 82 and its early december. All is not lost. We are still one of the top seeds in the standings. Get over it.

 

[Paolo305613]

ASK IRA: Readers vent on absence of Whiteside

 

[Paolo305613]

NBA Quarterly Report: Pacers, Heat coming up aces in the East

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

You are the most unreasonable clueless idiot in the history of this board. I wonder if you actually watch the games, especially when they result in losses - or do you just look at the box score? I said this time and again, and most everyone would agree -- sometimes looking at the boxscore doesn't tell the whole story or do the game and players any justice. You have to watch the game to actually be able to give a reasonable analysis.

Winslow has been playing down the stretch virtually all season to this point. He has earned that right - most everyone would agree with that. He is a 19 year old rookie with only a year of college experience coming in - and maybe not even that as he did miss some games during that time. All rookies hit a rookie wall - it seems it has happened for him now - he will overcome it.

I know you think the only thing that makes a productive player is scoring and that doing nothing else on the court matters because thats what your boy D-Wade is all about - but there is more to it.

Obviously, this board is famous for blaming Spo for losses, blaming refs for losses and not holding players responsible. But here are some important factors as to why the Heat lost - 5 turnovers from your boyfriend Wade, 6 missed FTs as a team going 5-16 from 3, 17 turnovers. Thats recipe for disaster from the Heat. So, you can blame Spo, Winslow, no Hassan in the 4th, the refs all you want but the Heat lost this game on there own. They lost this game early on getting down late

The things you named were PART of it, for sure, but we caught up and took the lead with a lineup that ended up being totally scrapped the entire 4th qtr..

Spoelstra made a bad decision which probably cost us the game.
Don't act like he's perfect, because he's far from it.

No reason to play to the strengths of the opponent when your strengths were doing just fine.

 

[Paolo305613]

The things you named were PART of it, for sure, but we caught up and took the lead with a lineup that ended up being totally scrapped the entire 4th qtr..

It happens. we have seen it before work in favor of the Heat - other times against the Heat. Fact is Washington set the tone early and we played from behind ever since - every time we made a run, they had a response. It wasn't our night. It happens. As I recall when people in here were making their season record predictions, none of us had them 82-0. Losses will happen. This is one of them. Not the end of the world. 63 games left. Time to move on.

Spoelstra made a bad decision which probably cost us the game.
Don't act like he's perfect, because he's far from it.

Never have said he's perfect nor do I think such is the case. Forgive me if I am not on the bandwagon of unnecessarily trashing the guy - but that doesn't mean I think he can do no wrong. I actually thought a few of the times he called timeout last night was bad - rather than letting and making the team play through adversity he called timeout - and while some good came out of those timeouts - they were really worthless because the Heat really had no shot in this game - they blew their chances long before the refs or Spo did anything wrong.

Hopefully Hassan Whiteside applied some of the vaginal cream I recommended for some people in here so he can cure his wounds before next game. If he is going to handle things like such a pussy , he doesn't need to be here. That angry crap, not making himself available to the media crap after the game out of frustration is maybe something I would expect from Wade or even Gerald Green but Hassan has to think better. If the kid doesn't realize he is still a work in progress and he wouldn't be where he is out with not just his work ethic but this coaching staff and front office people - then he doesn't need to be here.


We don't need anymore guys in this organization who think they are bigger than the team or the game. Those days are over.

 

[Paolo305613]

Id like to ask this question for the sake of debate - and I will ask it again along with some others on game day. You all talk like there is some perfect blueprint approach that Spo and the heat staff should follow as to how to coach the team, how to work the lineups, rotations etc - it seems no one takes note that every game and opponent is different. Note: I am all for the Heat playing to their strengths. And I do agree they should be able to dictate the flow of a game by playing to their strengths but sometimes things just don't go as planned. -- so I ask:


Whats the perfect game plan for the Heat? What is the perfect/ideal bench rotation/sub patterns the Heat should use? Who are the guys the Heat should/shouldnt play on a nightly basis? How many minutes should each guy get? What plays should be called for each guy? Who should be on the court? And when?

People in here talk as if they have the perfect plan as to how things should be done and it seems you swear it would guarantee wins -- so lets hear it? I want to hear what the road to perfection would look like for the Heat in your eyes?

 

[Paolo305613]

some bit of good news


this should excite all of you to the point of wetting your pants. But whats the point at this point? The league may or may not admit to a mistake from the refs - the result is not likely to change - and this one call certainly wasn't the deciding factor of this game - so everyone needs to just move it along.

However, a few controversial calls around the league thus far and the Heat have had their share they have complained and cried about. The league should surely look into further expanding replay and reviews. Teams should also adopt the approach baseball took of having a guy who is solely responsible for looking at replays in the locker-room or at the scores table/bench area and advise a coach if its worthy of asking refs to further review/challenge a call. I know that the league has made certain plays reviewable at certain points in the game, but they may have to expand upon that. Surely there is a way to do this without completely killing the flow of the game. And, getting the right calls should be the ultimate goal.