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[Stokes1931]

Looks like tzill was right. For a quarter, anyway. What a great comeback. Solid, character win by the Niners.

 

[SFAnthem]

Looks like tzill was right. For a quarter, anyway. What a great comeback. Solid, character win by the Niners.

He was spot on when pointing out areas of concern. The defense got shredded for most of the game.

I think the major hangup was the whole contender/pretender thing.

Doesn't matter anymore, Niners to the Super Bowl!

 

[msgkings322]

He was spot on when pointing out areas of concern. The defense got shredded for most of the game.

I think the major hangup was the whole contender/pretender thing.

Doesn't matter anymore, Niners to the Super Bowl!

I think even tzill would rather be wrong and have the Niners do this than have been right.

Happy for you guys, hope they win it all. Looks like it's the Ravens...would that be you guys' preference? Har-Bowl.

 

[tzill]

The NFC Championship points up one thing for sure: I don't know jack about handegg. The DL was poor, the pass rush non-existent, the two turnovers were lucky, and the least penalized team in the NFL committed two atrocious personal fouls.

There is no good reason the Niners should have won. I know nothing.

 

[msgkings322]

The NFC Championship points up one thing for sure: I don't know jack about handegg. The DL was poor, the pass rush non-existent, the two turnovers were lucky, and the least penalized team in the NFL committed two atrocious personal fouls.

There is no good reason the Niners should have won. I know nothing.

I think your blind spot is you focus on every minute weakness in the Niners, and don't give enough credit to the fact that EVERY team has weaknesses, including whomever they are playing. In addition, the Niners have strengths too, and those strengths clearly are stronger than their weaknesses.

 

[Stokes1931]

The NFC Championship points up one thing for sure: I don't know jack about handegg. The DL was poor, the pass rush non-existent, the two turnovers were lucky, and the least penalized team in the NFL committed two atrocious personal fouls.

There is no good reason the Niners should have won. I know nothing.

The beginning of wisdom....

 

[Toolrulzz]

The NFC Championship points up one thing for sure: I don't know jack about handegg. The DL was poor, the pass rush non-existent, the two turnovers were lucky, and the least penalized team in the NFL committed two atrocious personal fouls.

There is no good reason the Niners should have won. I know nothing.

If there is no good reason the Niners should have won, then the same is true for the Falcons. Their D was didn't play well, they had a few mental errors as you mentioned, and their offense came up small when it mattered most.

With that said the Niners pass D was really bad in the first half and it was extremely frustrating. It looked like they were going to get run out of the building but they made the necessary adjustments and shut them down in the second half. IMO, the better team won. It was closer than I would have liked though.

 

[SFAnthem]

I think your blind spot is you focus on every minute weakness in the Niners, and don't give enough credit to the fact that EVERY team has weaknesses, including whomever they are playing. In addition, the Niners have strengths too, and those strengths clearly are stronger than their weaknesses.

Very good points.

The team overall, even playing mediocre, was better than the falcons. The defense was shredded for most of the game but came up huge at the end and shut them out in the second half.

The defense last year overcompensated for much of the offense's weaknesses. The team is much more balanced this year. With the addition of Kaep, the defense doesn't have to do most of the heavy lifting.

 

[SFAnthem]

I think even tzill would rather be wrong and have the Niners do this than have been right.

Happy for you guys, hope they win it all. Looks like it's the Ravens...would that be you guys' preference? Har-Bowl.

I wouldn't mind either way, as long as it ends in a niner victory. I would have loved for the niners to beat Brady and Belicheat in the Super Bowl, tho.

Now, we're gonna get harbaugh stories ad nauseum for two weeks

 

[tzill]

I think your blind spot is you focus on every minute weakness in the Niners, and don't give enough credit to the fact that EVERY team has weaknesses, including whomever they are playing. In addition, the Niners have strengths too, and those strengths clearly are stronger than their weaknesses.

Giving up 24 points in the first half isn't minute. Almost zero pressure on Ryan all game isn't minute.

It's just stunning to me how lucky we got with the two turnovers and penalties.

Then again, I know nothing about handegg.

 

[tzill]

If there is no good reason the Niners should have won, then the same is true for the Falcons. Their D was didn't play well, they had a few mental errors as you mentioned, and their offense came up small when it mattered most.

With that said the Niners pass D was really bad in the first half and it was extremely frustrating. It looked like they were going to get run out of the building but they made the necessary adjustments and shut them down in the second half. IMO, the better team won. It was closer than I would have liked though.

Myth!!

The Coons shut themselves down in the second half with two unforced turnovers and two unforced personal fouls. I've no idea if the Niners are the better team. They did win, we can agree there.

 

[tzill]

Very good points.

The team overall, even playing mediocre, was better than the falcons. The defense was shredded for most of the game but came up huge at the end and shut them out in the second half.

The defense last year overcompensated for much of the offense's weaknesses. The team is much more balanced this year. With the addition of Kaep, the defense doesn't have to do most of the heavy lifting.

The defense CAN'T do heavy lifting. There is NO pass rush. We can only win games that are shootouts or where the other team steps on its own dick. We can probably beat the Ravens with the same game plan.

 

[msgkings322]

Giving up 24 points in the first half isn't minute. Almost zero pressure on Ryan all game isn't minute.

It's just stunning to me how lucky we got with the two turnovers and penalties.

Then again, I know nothing about handegg.

But this line of reasoning only highlights your blind spots. What, every team they play is perfect, is never going to have turnovers or penalties?

Again, the Niners aren't perfect, but neither is any of the teams they play. If you were a Falcons fan in a similar mindset you'd be railing about how the Falcons are pretenders, look at how they kill themselves with turnovers and penalties, and their defense couldn't do dick in the 2nd half when it mattered.

You just aren't seeing this team properly. Maybe no team will ever be as good as the 1994 Niners were, but that doesn't mean every team is a pretender. The Niners have been among the best teams in football this year and they are every bit as good as any other contender.

 

[SFAnthem]

Giving up 24 points in the first half isn't minute. Almost zero pressure on Ryan all game isn't minute.

It's just stunning to me how lucky we got with the two turnovers and penalties.

Then again, I know nothing about handegg.

The defense CAN'T do heavy lifting. There is NO pass rush. We can only win games that are shootouts or where the other team steps on its own dick. We can probably beat the Ravens with the same game plan.

?

Again, you bang the drum of no pressure and point to sacks but Aldon's performance actually graded out well.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/01/21/refo-49ers-falcons-nfc-championship/

While Smith again failed to take the quarterback down, he turned in one of his best performances of the season by recording pressure seven times (2 Hits, 5 Hurries) and being a persistent nuisance to the Falcons’ running game, even though he recorded only one tackle. He was able to get penetration into the backfield to force redirects and helped ensure the Falcons could never control the tempo with the lead. Smith even spent some time in an interior alignment, over Peter Konz, late in the second quarter, and recorded pressure from there on the Falcons’ final touchdown drive.

Ahmad Brooks had two passes defended at the line and the niners defense had a key 3 and out stop after the Crabtree fumble. The resulting field position helped set up the game winning TD.

It was an overall team win but the defense contributed.

 

[SFAnthem]

Myth!!

The Coons shut themselves down in the second half with two unforced turnovers and two unforced personal fouls. I've no idea if the Niners are the better team. They did win, we can agree there.

While they did shut them out, it's true, they didn't shut them down.

However, if we are taking into account all the breaks in a game where this oblong shaped ball is concerned, the ten points lost from the fg miss and Crabtree fumble at the six inch line should of made this a more comfortable game at the end.

Don't get me started on all the missed holding calls on our d-linemen or the push offs from their big WRs. The refs are not the reason the niners won the game but they almost cost them it - everyone watching the replays of that "catch" saw the 3/4ths of that ball moving around on the ground.

 

[tzill]

But this line of reasoning only highlights your blind spots. What, every team they play is perfect, is never going to have turnovers or penalties?

Again, the Niners aren't perfect, but neither is any of the teams they play. If you were a Falcons fan in a similar mindset you'd be railing about how the Falcons are pretenders, look at how they kill themselves with turnovers and penalties, and their defense couldn't do dick in the 2nd half when it mattered.

You just aren't seeing this team properly. Maybe no team will ever be as good as the 1994 Niners were, but that doesn't mean every team is a pretender. The Niners have been among the best teams in football this year and they are every bit as good as any other contender.

I'd be livid that my team gagged away the game. The least penalized team in the NFL gets called for TWO personal fouls at critical times? One of the best teams in the NFL at holding onto the ball turns it over TWICE at critical junctures -- unforced?

I just don't see how the Niners won this one. I do see how the Falcons lost it. Again, it's better to be lucky than good.

 

[tzill]

While they did shut them out, it's true, they didn't shut them down.

However, if we are taking into account all the breaks in a game where this oblong shaped ball is concerned, the ten points lost from the fg miss and Crabtree fumble at the six inch line should of made this a more comfortable game at the end.

Don't get me started on all the missed holding calls on our d-linemen or the push offs from their big WRs. The refs are not the reason the niners won the game but they almost cost them it - everyone watching the replays of that "catch" saw the 3/4ths of that ball moving around on the ground.

That was a FORCED turnover. A great play by the Coons D. Unlike both of our blind squirrel finding an acorn turnovers. That wasn't a "good break" for the Falcons, it was a great play. According to Mike Perrera, the call on that catch was good.

The Niners were more lucky than good. Enjoy it. Celebrate it. But don't try to convince me that we played especially well.

 

[Heathbar012]

tzill might give in, but that's not the way to bet.

 

[Stokes1931]

That was a FORCED turnover. A great play by the Coons D. Unlike both of our blind squirrel finding an acorn turnovers. That wasn't a "good break" for the Falcons, it was a great play. According to Mike Perrera, the call on that catch was good.

The Niners were more lucky than good. Enjoy it. Celebrate it. But don't try to convince me that we played especially well.

I dunno about that. Ryan's fumble was a fluke. But the interception was well played, jumped the route, and made the difficult INT. It's not like Ryan threw the ball right too him.

 

[SFAnthem]

tzill might give in, but that's not the way to bet.

yup. Like I said before, reminds me of my cousin's pitbull-once lockjaw sets in.