McShay's Draft Talent Tiers

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2013 NFL Draft Talent Tiers - National Football League - ESPN

NFL Draft Talent Tiers - 2013

Welcome to Scouts Inc.'s tier rankings. What are the tier rankings? They are a helpful draft resource for some NFL general managers. (We know of three specifically who utilize this tool.) First, by ranking prospects in tiers it can help resist the urge to take a lower rated player at a position of greater need. Second, it can help to show which portions of a draft class are deep and which are lean -- both in overall talent and at certain positions.

By comparison, the 2012 draft was noticeably stronger at the top -- particularly in Tier 1 (six players), Tier 3 (nine players), and Tier 5 (23 players). The 2012 class also had three quarterbacks -- Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III, and Ryan Tannehill in the top three tiers -- but the first signal caller in 2012 (Geno Smith) doesn't show up until Tier 4.

On the flipside, the 2013 class is significantly stronger on Day 2 with five more players in Tier 6 and 16 more players in Tier 7 than we had a year ago. In addition, the 2013 class has 109 players in the top 7 tiers compared to 94 in 2012.

Here is the second of three editions of 2013 tier rankings.

 

[Rathman44]

Tier 1

OVR Player POS School HT WT Grade
1 Luke Joeckel OT Texas A&M 6'6" 306 97
2 Eric Fisher OT Central Michigan 6'7¼" 306 96
3 Star Lotulelei DT Utah 6'2½" 311 96


Tier 2

OVR Player POS School HT WT Grade
4 Dee Milliner CB Alabama 5'11⅞" 201 95
5 Dion Jordan OLB Oregon 6'6¼" 248 95
6 Sharrif Floyd DT Florida 6'2⅝" 297 95
7 Ezekiel Ansah DE Brigham Young 6'5¼" 271 95
8 Chance Warmack OG Alabama 6'2" 317 95


Tier 3

OVR Player POS School HT WT Grade
9 Jonathan Cooper OG North Carolina 6'2⅛" 311 94
10 Lane Johnson OT Oklahoma 6'6" 303 94
11 Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri 6'2½" 294 93
12 Barkevious Mingo DE LSU 6'4¼" 241 93
13 Alec Ogletree ILB Georgia 6'2½" 242 93
14 Tavon Austin WR West Virginia 5'8½" 174 93
15 Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame 6'5½" 250 93
16 Kenny Vaccaro S Texas 6'0" 214 93


Tier 4

OVR Player POS School HT WT Grade
17 Sylvester Williams DT North Carolina 6'2⅝" 313 92
18 Desmond Trufant CB Washington 5'11⅝" 190 92
19 Jarvis Jones OLB Georgia 6'2⅜" 245 92
20 Geno Smith QB West Virginia 6'2⅜" 218 91
21 D.J. Fluker OT Alabama 6'4⅝" 339 91
22 Keenan Allen WR California 6'2" 206 91
23 Bjoern Werner DE Florida State 6'3¼" 266 91
24 Manti Te'o ILB Notre Dame 6'1¼" 241 90
25 DJ Hayden CB Houston 5'11⅛" 191 90
26 Johnathan Jenkins DT Georgia 6'3⅝" 346 90
27 Justin Pugh OT Syracuse 6'4½" 307 90


Tier 5

OVR Player POS School HT WT Grade
28 Menelik Watson OT Florida State 6'5⅛" 310 89
29 Jamar Taylor CB Boise State 5'10⅝" 192 89
30 Datone Jones DE UCLA 6'3⅞" 283 89
31 Kawann Short DT Purdue 6'2⅞" 299 89
32 Matt Barkley QB USC 6'2½" 227 89
33 Kyle Long OG Oregon 6'6⅛" 313 89
34 Justin Hunter WR Tennessee 6'4" 196 89
35 Cordarrelle Patterson WR Tennessee 6'1⅞" 216 88
36 Blidi Wreh-wilson CB Connecticut 6'0¾" 195 88
37 Zach Ertz TE Stanford 6'5" 249 88
38 Xavier Rhodes CB Florida State 6'1½" 210 87
39 Robert Woods WR USC 6'0⅜" 201 87
40 Cornellius (Tank) Carradine DE Florida State 6'4⅛" 276 87
41 Margus Hunt DE Southern Methodist 6'8⅛" 277 86
42 DeAndre Hopkins WR Clemson 6'1" 214 86
43 Eddie Lacy RB Alabama 5'11" 231 86
44 Matt Elam S Florida 5'9⅞" 208 86
45 Kevin Minter ILB LSU 5'11¾" 246 86


Tier 6

OVR Player POS School HT WT Grade
46 John Cyprien S Florida International 6'0¼" 217 85
47 Jesse Williams DT Alabama 6'3⅜" 323 85
48 Quinton Patton WR Louisiana Tech 6'0" 204 85
49 Terron Armstead OT Arkansas-Pine Bluff 6'4¾" 306 85
50 Gavin Escobar TE San Diego State 6'5⅞" 254 84
51 Sio Moore OLB Connecticut 6'0¾" 245 84
52 Brandon Williams DT Missouri Southern State 6'1¼" 335 84
53 Ryan Nassib QB Syracuse 6'2⅛" 227 83
54 Sam Montgomery DE LSU 6'3¼" 262 83
55 Arthur Brown OLB Kansas State 6'0⅜" 241 83
56 Johnathan Hankins DT Ohio State 6'2⅞" 320 83
57 Tyler Wilson QB Arkansas 6'2⅛" 215 82
58 D.j. Swearinger S South Carolina 5'10½" 208 82
59 Damontre Moore DE Texas A&M 6'4½" 250 82
60 Eric Reid S LSU 6'1¼" 213 81
61 Terrance Williams WR Baylor 6'2" 208 81
62 Johnthan Banks CB Mississippi State 6'2" 185 80
63 Larry Warford OG Kentucky 6'3" 332 80
64 Travis Frederick OC Wisconsin 6'3⅝" 312 80
65 Aaron Dobson WR Marshall 6'2¾" 210 80


Tier 7

OVR Player POS School HT WT Grade
66 Khaseem Greene OLB Rutgers 6'0¾" 241 79
67 Alex Okafor DE Texas 6'4½" 264 79
68 Montee Ball RB Wisconsin 5'10½" 214 79
69 Travis Kelce TE Cincinnati 6'4⅞" 255 79
70 Brian Winters OG Kent State 6'3⅝" 318 79
71 Darius Slay CB Mississippi State 5'11⅞" 192 79
72 Stedman Bailey WR West Virginia 5'10¼" 193 79
73 EJ Manuel QB Florida State 6'4⅝" 237 78
74 Robert Alford CB Southeastern Louisiana 5'10⅛" 188 78
75 Brian Schwenke OC California 6'3" 314 78
76 Shamarko Thomas S Syracuse 5'8⅞" 213 78
77 Akeem Spence DT Illinois 6'0⅝" 307 78
78 Andre Ellington RB Clemson 5'9¼" 199 78
79 Vance Mcdonald TE Rice 6'4⅛" 267 78
80 Jamie Collins OLB Southern Miss 6'3½" 250 77
81 Mike Glennon QB North Carolina State 6'7⅛" 225 77
82 Christine Michael RB Texas A&M 5'10" 220 77
83 Markus Wheaton WR Oregon State 5'11" 189 77
84 Le'veon Bell RB Michigan State 6'1⅜" 230 76
85 Brandon Jenkins OLB Florida State 6'2½" 251 76
86 Kevin Reddick ILB North Carolina 6'1⅜" 243 76
87 Landry Jones QB Oklahoma 6'4⅛" 225 76
88 Tyrann Mathieu CB LSU 5'8¾" 186 75
89 Phillip Thomas S Fresno State 6'0½" 208 75
90 Dallas Thomas OG Tennessee 6'5½" 306 75
91 Kiko Alonso ILB Oregon 6'3⅜" 238 74
92 Jordan Reed TE Florida 6'2½" 236 74
93 Tyler Bray QB Tennessee 6'6⅛" 232 74
94 William Gholston DE Michigan State 6'6¼" 281 74
95 Giovani Bernard RB North Carolina 5'8⅜" 202 73
96 Michael Buchanan DE Illinois 6'5⅜" 255 73
97 Logan Ryan CB Rutgers 5'11⅛" 191 73
98 John Simon DE Ohio State 6'1½" 257 72
99 Bennie Logan DT LSU 6'1⅞" 309 72
100 B.w. Webb CB William & Mary 5'10¼" 184 72
101 DeVonte Holloman OLB South Carolina 6'1⅜" 243 72
102 David Bakhtiari OT Colorado 6'4¼" 299 72
103 Corey Lemonier DE Auburn 6'3⅜" 255 71
104 Bacarri Rambo S Georgia 6'0½" 211 71
105 Barrett Jones OC Alabama 6'4½" 306 71
106 Hugh Thornton OG Illinois 6'3¼" 320 71
107 Dwayne Gratz CB Connecticut 5'11⅛" 201 71
108 Brennan Williams OT North Carolina 6'5⅝" 318 71
109 Da'rick Rogers WR Tennessee 6'24⅛" 217 71


Tier Glossary
Tier 1: These are the elite prospects, those who have the potential to come off the board in the top five overall picks.
Tier 2: This tier is composed of players who are a notch below elite but are still top-10 quality.
Tier 3: The prospects will offer good value between picks 10 and 20.
Tier 4: These prospects have the tools to be good value picks in the late-first round.
Tier 5: These are the players teams will begin targeting as value picks early in Round 2 should they fall out of Round 1.
Tier 6: This tier contains prospects who are worthy of mid-to-late-second-round consideration.
Tier 7: These players rank as solid third-round prospects.

 

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Tier 3

14 Tavon Austin WR West Virginia 5'8½" 174 93

Tier 4

22 Keenan Allen WR California 6'2" 206 91

Tier 5

34 Justin Hunter WR Tennessee 6'4" 196 89
35 Cordarrelle Patterson WR Tennessee 6'1⅞" 216 88
42 DeAndre Hopkins WR Clemson 6'1" 214 86

Tier 6

48 Quinton Patton WR Louisiana Tech 6'0" 204 85
61 Terrance Williams WR Baylor 6'2" 208 81
65 Aaron Dobson WR Marshall 6'2¾" 210 80

Tier 7

72 Stedman Bailey WR West Virginia 5'10¼" 193 79
109 Da'rick Rogers WR Tennessee 6'24⅛" 217 71


Tier Glossary
Tier 1: These are the elite prospects, those who have the potential to come off the board in the top five overall picks.
Tier 2: This tier is composed of players who are a notch below elite but are still top-10 quality.
Tier 3: The prospects will offer good value between picks 10 and 20.
Tier 4: These prospects have the tools to be good value picks in the late-first round.
Tier 5: These are the players teams will begin targeting as value picks early in Round 2 should they fall out of Round 1.
Tier 6: This tier contains prospects who are worthy of mid-to-late-second-round consideration.
Tier 7: These players rank as solid third-round prospects.

Has this been Mcshays top 10 WR all year? Seems to be alot different then alot of other experts top 10.

 

[Rathman44]

Has this been Mcshays top 10 WR all year? Seems to be alot different then alot of other experts top 10.

I'm not sure what McShay has changed over the year, but I think his ranking is actually fairly consistent with a lot of other evaluators. The most glaring exceptions being Patterson ranked lower (but he's been sliding on a lot of boards lately) and the lack of a slide for Keenan Allen due to his injured 40 time. I don't necessarily agree with his rankings, but I don't think they're that far off from a lot of "experts'" rankings.

 

[I_am_1z]

I'm not sure what McShay has changed over the year, but I think his ranking is actually fairly consistent with a lot of other evaluators. The most glaring exceptions being Patterson ranked lower (but he's been sliding on a lot of boards lately) and the lack of a slide for Keenan Allen due to his injured 40 time. I don't necessarily agree with his rankings, but I don't think they're that far off from a lot of "experts'" rankings.

I want to hear the reason for why Patterson's sliding. I've always been consistent saying he's NOT EVER going to be a #1 WR. For him to sliding now after evaluators already knowing he's a body catcher and reportedly not all that football smart; there's got to be a third reason now.

 

[Ray_Dogg]

There is very little that I like in the first four tiers combined. Probably less than 10 players. Tiers 5-7 on the other hand have it going on! So glad we are positioned where we are.

 

[LeaderOCola]

that's the highest I've seen Dobson rated anywhere. I hope he's wrong. I like him for Steelers in the 3rd

 

[MHSL82]

There is very little that I like in the first four tiers combined. Probably less than 10 players. Tiers 5-7 on the other hand have it going on! So glad we are positioned where we are.

Everywhere? Just kidding. We do have a lot of picks and a most of them are on the edges of the rounds (I know, the overall number is more important than the round number).

 

[Rathman44]

I want to hear the reason for why Patterson's sliding. I've always been consistent saying he's NOT EVER going to be a #1 WR. For him to sliding now after evaluators already knowing he's a body catcher and reportedly not all that football smart; there's got to be a third reason now.

If Patterson were to fall to the right team/coach that utilizes him properly and plays to his strengths he could be very good...almost Percy Harvin good. But if a team drafts him and expects him to be a prototypical WR then it will definitely not work out well. If he fell to the Niners I wouldn't mind adding his talents to our offense. I'd trust Harbaugh to utilize his skill set properly.

 

[NinerSickness]

that's the highest I've seen Dobson rated anywhere. I hope he's wrong. I like him for Steelers in the 3rd

He'd be a great pick for pittsburgh in the 3rd. I compare him to Greg Little when he was one of my favourite mid-round prospects a couple of years ago, but Little ended up being picked in the late 2nd. That's what will probably happen with Dobson IMO.

He & Swope could be just as (if not better than) the higher-rated WRs like Patterson, Hunter, Dobson, Austin, Allen IMO. That's why I'm against the Niners taking a WR in the first; might as well just hold tight & take Dobson or Swope later (or even Kenny Stills, whom I like too but not as much).

 

[Kinzu]

Something just seems wrong when Alec Ogletree is a higher rated prospect than his teammate Jarvis Jones. It's not that I don't think he is good, but Jones was dominating as a pass rusher and a playmaker when games were on the line. Alec was just a good middle linebacker that could make plays sideline to sideline. A great MLB can do a lot for your defense (P.Willis), but usually teams would rather have a great pass rusher.

 

[deep9er]

Something just seems wrong when Alec Ogletree is a higher rated prospect than his teammate Jarvis Jones. It's not that I don't think he is good, but Jones was dominating as a pass rusher and a playmaker when games were on the line. Alec was just a good middle linebacker that could make plays sideline to sideline. A great MLB can do a lot for your defense (P.Willis), but usually teams would rather have a great pass rusher.

no question.