McClain

[PDay8810]

I think he fits in Dallas after last year. He just doesn't deserve much more than the minimum. Counting on him becomes a mistake. He's a bonus, like last year...if things work out

 

[Nasty_Magician]

Would love to have him back. Also eliminates a need in the draft so we can focus on other positions.

 

[jarntt]

Would love to have him back. Also eliminates a need in the draft so we can focus on other positions.

I think the need is still kind of there for two reasons. First off whatever McClain gets if we sign him will likely be a one year or maybe two year deal, so even if we sign him he could be a short term signing. Second, we all know the injury history with Lee and McClain seems to be in the same boat, so having aother LB around would be a very good idea for the long haul.

But, I totally agree with you that it goes from an immediate big need that we hav to address to more of a long term thing. This would be great for us because not being forced to take a LB unless the right guy was there would become a luxury on draft day.

 

[Nasty_Magician]

I think the need is still kind of there for two reasons. First off whatever McClain gets if we sign him will likely be a one year or maybe two year deal, so even if we sign him he could be a short term signing. Second, we all know the injury history with Lee and McClain seems to be in the same boat, so having aother LB around would be a very good idea for the long haul.

But, I totally agree with you that it goes from an immediate big need that we hav to address to more of a long term thing. This would be great for us because not being forced to take a LB unless the right guy was there would become a luxury on draft day.

I was going to add I'm still completely on board with taking a linebacker at some point but as you stated, it's a bit more of a luxury as opposed to drafting a guy we need to step up and be the guy from day 1.

 

[cowboycolors]

Just goes to show no matter how reliable a source seems to be they are at best a inside guess at whats going on.
I would love to have McClain back with a Contract that's cap friendly with some incentives to keep Rolando happy and a chance to earn some $$$. I am concerned if he is not all in. If so get him signed and lets still look for a MIke LB in the draft

 

[jarntt]

Cowboys likely to move Sean Lee to weakside linebacker spot | Dallas Morning News

 

[PDay8810]

certainly looks like for 2 downs anyways...thinking Lee slides inside in nickel situations

 

[PDay8810]

I think he fits in Dallas after last year. He just doesn't deserve much more than the minimum. Counting on him becomes a mistake. He's a bonus, like last year...if things work out

To expand a little on this. I don't know anyone here that saw McClain's football instincts come into play quicker than I did after he got into expectable shape, but he still half hearted it last year. Dallas invested 2M for Brinkley and McClain is one missed doctors appointment from sitting 4 games. McClain has a decision, play football for 750/800K on a one year deal or not. That remains all he deserves till he shows himself in a better light. I think last year wasn't enough to justify the investment

 

[jarntt]

Who knows, but don't think starting Brinkley would be in our best interest. I guess we need to see who ends up in the mix. Even if we go into the season "as is" I don't know for sure that it's Lee on the weak side and Hitchens at SOLB with Brinkley in the middle. Lee could still end up in the middle and IMO Hitchens looked like his best spot was MLB also. I'd be looking for a SOLB out of all the others...

 

[TxHeat]

McClain was supposed to have a meeting with Bill Belichick today. Didn't see that coming but probably means Jerrod Mayo can't be counted on, and the fact Hightower is out until at least October.

 

[jarntt]

If I am McClain I'm looking at that deal the Eagles just gave Ryans and Bruce Carter's deal and thinking...and they want to pay me what???

I think an incentive based deal would be best. We aren't getting him for anywhere near the vet minimum after how well he played last year, but he isn't getting a lot of guaranteed money either based on his history of quitting, injuries and other issues. I don't know how you even assign a value to him right now. I'd overpay a little for sure for one year, but I'm not overpaying long term on him. Still want this guy here and think we are in a much stronger position going into the draft with him than without him.

 

[PDay8810]

what is the vet minimum for a vet like McClain?

I still think his range is 750K to 1M

 

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I'm probably in the minority but I think McClain's contract will be $2M+, (based on a 16 game season). There won't be much up-front or guaranteed and much of the money will be roster bonus or snap count related. To put it in perspective the Rams signed Akeem Ayers for $3M to compete for the SLB role with Dunbar. The SLB plays less than 40% of snaps in the Rams system.

 

[jarntt]

I'm probably in the minority but I think McClain's contract will be $2M+, (based on a 16 game season). There won't be much up-front or guaranteed and much of the money will be roster bonus or snap count related. To put it in perspective the Rams signed Akeem Ayers for $3M to compete for the SLB role with Dunbar. The SLB plays less than 40% of snaps in the Rams system.

Did you just wake up?

 

[Bmurph]

Could have been on vacation

 

[Manster7588]

I'm probably in the minority but I think McClain's contract will be $2M+, (based on a 16 game season). There won't be much up-front or guaranteed and much of the money will be roster bonus or snap count related. To put it in perspective the Rams signed Akeem Ayers for $3M to compete for the SLB role with Dunbar. The SLB plays less than 40% of snaps in the Rams system.

???? No ESPN in the UK?

 

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Sorry, i'm in a different time zone to most of you. I didn't read today's news before I came here. I don't sign in here or look for NFL news every day. I read through the thread and commented as I saw the topic at hand. I knew he was talking with the Patriots but I was hopeful he'd re-sign with the Cowboys. $3M + incentives looks a little bit high but it'll depend on the details.

 

[Manster7588]

Sorry, i'm in a different time zone to most of you. I didn't read today's news before I came here. I don't sign in here or look for NFL news every day. I read through the thread and commented as I saw the topic at hand. I knew he was talking with the Patriots but I was hopeful he'd re-sign with the Cowboys. $3M + incentives looks a little bit high but it'll depend on the details.

No probs. it's all in good fun.

 

[Bmurph]

Sorry, i'm in a different time zone to most of you. I didn't read today's news before I came here. I don't sign in here or look for NFL news every day. I read through the thread and commented as I saw the topic at hand. I knew he was talking with the Patriots but I was hopeful he'd re-sign with the Cowboys. $3M + incentives looks a little bit high but it'll depend on the details.

Oh so no vacation, you were on holiday? HAHA, no problem just giving you a ration of shit

 

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Oh so no vacation, you were on holiday? HAHA, no problem just giving you a ration of shit

The only vacation i've got is an involuntary '3 month vacation' from posting on the Rams board.
I wasn't planning to post there anyway.