Giants vs Cowboys

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

Wow really ?? It was too loud where i was at. I could only watch today. Didnt hear anything. As soon as the game was over we flipped it over to the Packers / Dolphins. Mikah did play well.

I will say we are 5-7. Of course we need Lamb to be healthy to have a lot of success. The thing i like is we are watching two players really develop and grow more and more - Overshown and Turpin. Turpin needs chances every week. Im not talking about 85 catches in a season but the jet sweeps and screens need to be a part of every game with him. I want to see him featured a little more down the stretch.

I know winning is screwing our draft position , but damn i feel so much better when we do.

I think these fools need to take a hard look at what they are doing for the future at Wideout. Turpin had very few targets and once again came up huge.

If I was the opposition I would rather see Brooks and Tolbert on the field than Turpin.

 

[UK Cowboy]

I was a little surprised they played Hoffman over Bass. I watched the OL play very closely. Hoffman did very well. The Cowboys finally ran up the middle and kept pounding it. There were big holes,. Smith,Beebe and Hoffman were very physical.

Hoffman two times nearly got flagged though for some after the whistle stuff. But I was ok with what he did.

I been saying all season they needed to run behind Beebe. There were some great combo blocks

the tackle play was nothing special.

I heard on a Cowboys podcast that a big reason they had gone with Hoffman over Bass was how smart Hoffman is. Said he is much stronger with the line calls than Bass and could help Beebe, who blocks well but struggles with stunts. So far so good. Washington and NY both have some dudes on their DLines

 

[UK Cowboy]

I think these fools need to take a hard look at what they are doing for the future at Wideout. Turpin had very few targets and once again came up huge.

If I was the opposition I would rather see Brooks and Tolbert on the field than Turpin.

Lamb, Cooks and Turpin should be the starters and Tolbert the #4, with any of the other characters as the #5. Still haven't seen anything from Mingo that comes close to justifying what they gave up for him.
IMO, Lamb, Cooks and Turpin are as easy to see as running Dowdle like they did yesterday, but somehow it took them over half the season just to figure that out

 

[jarntt]

PFF grades

OFFENSE
Tyler Smith - 84.6 (75 snaps)
Brock Hoffman - 76.8 (75 snaps) - 87.6 pass blocking grade
Brandin Cooks - 74.3 (30 snaps)
KaVontae Turpin - 72.5 (14 snaps)
Rico Dowdle - 67.1 (52 snaps) - 76.7 pass blocking grade
Cooper Beebe - 61.7 (75 snaps)
Terence Steele - 60.5 (75 snaps) - 56.5 pass blocking grade
Jalen Tolbert - 58.7 (54 snaps)
Jalen Brooks - 58.4 (22 snaps)
Cooper Rush - 58.1 (75 snaps)
Chuma Edoga - 56.5 (61 snaps) - 31.2 pass blocking grade
Jonathan Mingo - 53.9 (25 snaps)
Brevyn Spann-Ford - 51.3 (31 snaps)
Luke Schoonmaker - 51.0 (50 snaps) - 31.9 run blocking grade
CeeDee Lamb - 47.0 (51 snaps)
Hunter Luepke - 40.5 (32 snaps) - 29.2 pass blocking grade
Tyler Guyton - 34.3 (14 snaps) - 0.3 pass blocking grade

DEFENSE
Micah Parsons - 89.9 (60 snaps) - 90.3 pass rush grade
Eric Kendricks - 76.4 (63 snaps) - 96.8 pass rush grade
DaRon Bland - 75.6 (58 snaps) - 78.2 coverage grade
Donovan Wilson - 72.7 (62 snaps) - 82.5 tackling grade
Carl Lawson - 71.1 (33 snaps)
Jourdan Lewis - 68.6 (62 snaps) - 78.8 tackling grade
Osa Odighizuwa - 66.9 (57 snaps)
DeMarvion Overshown - 65.1 (62 snaps) - 29.9 tackling grade, 39.3 coverage grade
Mazi Smith - 62.8 (23 snaps) - 29.9 tackling grade
Malik Hooker - 59.0 (63 snaps) - 79.6 tackling grade
Chauncey Golston - 57.6 (59 snaps) - 27.4 tackling grade
Josh Butler - 46.1 (29 snaps) - 38.8 coverage grade
Israel Mukuamu - 45.4 (34 snaps) - 37.8 tackling grade
Linval Joseph - 41.7 (10 snaps) - 39.9 run defense grade

 

[jarntt]

I heard on a Cowboys podcast that a big reason they had gone with Hoffman over Bass was how smart Hoffman is. Said he is much stronger with the line calls than Bass and could help Beebe, who blocks well but struggles with stunts. So far so good. Washington and NY both have some dudes on their DLines

I think it’s as simple as LG Bass, RG Hoffman

 

[Manster7588]

PFF grades

OFFENSE
Tyler Smith - 84.6 (75 snaps)
Brock Hoffman - 76.8 (75 snaps) - 87.6 pass blocking grade
Brandin Cooks - 74.3 (30 snaps)
KaVontae Turpin - 72.5 (14 snaps)
Rico Dowdle - 67.1 (52 snaps) - 76.7 pass blocking grade
Cooper Beebe - 61.7 (75 snaps)
Terence Steele - 60.5 (75 snaps) - 56.5 pass blocking grade
Jalen Tolbert - 58.7 (54 snaps)
Jalen Brooks - 58.4 (22 snaps)
Cooper Rush - 58.1 (75 snaps)
Chuma Edoga - 56.5 (61 snaps) - 31.2 pass blocking grade
Jonathan Mingo - 53.9 (25 snaps)
Brevyn Spann-Ford - 51.3 (31 snaps)
Luke Schoonmaker - 51.0 (50 snaps) - 31.9 run blocking grade
CeeDee Lamb - 47.0 (51 snaps)
Hunter Luepke - 40.5 (32 snaps) - 29.2 pass blocking grade
Tyler Guyton - 34.3 (14 snaps) - 0.3 pass blocking grade

DEFENSE
Micah Parsons - 89.9 (60 snaps) - 90.3 pass rush grade
Eric Kendricks - 76.4 (63 snaps) - 96.8 pass rush grade
DaRon Bland - 75.6 (58 snaps) - 78.2 coverage grade
Donovan Wilson - 72.7 (62 snaps) - 82.5 tackling grade
Carl Lawson - 71.1 (33 snaps)
Jourdan Lewis - 68.6 (62 snaps) - 78.8 tackling grade
Osa Odighizuwa - 66.9 (57 snaps)
DeMarvion Overshown - 65.1 (62 snaps) - 29.9 tackling grade, 39.3 coverage grade
Mazi Smith - 62.8 (23 snaps) - 29.9 tackling grade
Malik Hooker - 59.0 (63 snaps) - 79.6 tackling grade
Chauncey Golston - 57.6 (59 snaps) - 27.4 tackling grade
Josh Butler - 46.1 (29 snaps) - 38.8 coverage grade
Israel Mukuamu - 45.4 (34 snaps) - 37.8 tackling grade
Linval Joseph - 41.7 (10 snaps) - 39.9 run defense grade

I'd think Rico would have a better grade

 

[jarntt]

 

[jarntt]

I'd think Rico would have a better grade

Yeah. I’m no huge fan of PFF grades but it’s at least a somewhat neutral look at every player on every snap.

 

[Sir Robin Of Camelot]

Now - do the Bengals…

Onward!

 

[UK Cowboy]

I think it’s as simple as LG Bass, RG Hoffman

Maybe. I still believe what I heard about Hoffman was true. Used to be, Bass would go in over him either way. One thing that jumped out to me about Hoffman was the mean streak he played with. He's a fighter

 

[UK Cowboy]

Grades for Guyton(Woof), Mazi and Schoonys rum blocking grades jump out

 

[Manster7588]

Yeah. I’m no huge fan of PFF grades but it’s at least a somewhat neutral look at every player on every snap.

Agree, and now I'm not shooting the messenger.

 

[jarntt]

Maybe. I still believe what I heard about Hoffman was true. Used to be, Bass would go in over him either way. One thing that jumped out to me about Hoffman was the mean streak he played with. He's a fighter

If Guyton doesn't play better we might find out the answer pretty soon...

 

[UK Cowboy]

If Guyton doesn't play better we might find out the answer pretty soon...

I think they will try Guyton at RT next season. Jr is struggling on the field and losing respect for lack of toughness

 

[tomodach10]

Giants-Cowboys Thanksgiving snoozer drew 38.5 million viewers, most of 2024

It was the perfect game for a Thanksgiving nap.

sports.yahoo.com

Pathetic media.

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

I highly doubt that Biadaz would do this well against this guy. Lawrence is a big dude.

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

Maybe. I still believe what I heard about Hoffman was true. Used to be, Bass would go in over him either way. One thing that jumped out to me about Hoffman was the mean streak he played with. He's a fighter

I liked it when Hoffman was still knocking guys down after the whistle. Really liked that . Wish they had this type of depth at OT.

 

[UK Cowboy]

I liked it when Hoffman was still knocking guys down after the whistle. Really liked that . Wish they had this type of depth at OT.

Waletzko is horrible. Whiffed on the block when we got stuffed on 4th and one

 

[jarntt]

Waletzko is horrible. Whiffed on the block when we got stuffed on 4th and one

How crazy that they still activate Waletzko??? I would have cut him a couple of years ago. I didn't realize he was active. I guess with Richards now out and Edoga before him he gets the game day backup nod

 

[UK Cowboy]

How crazy that they still activate Waletzko??? I would have cut him a couple of years ago. I didn't realize he was active. I guess with Richards now out and Edoga before him he gets the game day backup nod

Yeah, they brought him in an an extra OT when they bunched up like a rugby team and got stuffed for a 2 yard loss. The next time that formation works will be the first time