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If teams play keep away.from.the.
Mariners..ok..
The same.will.come..there way
 

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Yeah..Milwaukee has what phili wants.
And they need.a.1b.
Maybe bohm.
 

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Castillo for horner would still.be.good
For mariners and cubs I would say..

1Robles...rf
2Julio .cf..
3Horner....2b
4Miranda maybe .1b
5Raleigh ..
6Haniger .
7.3b.maybe.shenton.
8.arosarena...lf
9.crawford..ss
 

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Horner 31 stolen .in 2024.
 

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Twins daily...says.miranda.
Is good for dh .
That's ok for the mariners who need that as well..

Best thing is he is cheap..
At.
800k..
And
With.marines .offence..sick.as it can.be.
Miranda would fit...nicely.
 

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A pota .Rican. .dh..ok..talked..me into it.
Again...(.with Edgar in the hall..
2nd time may.be a.charm.)
Lolololol
 

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I was going to post about this then saw this. It actually was a good listen. Gave some good excuses for ownership but also the Mariners are $40 million short on what the payroll should be.
 

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Agreed. The rumor mill says the Phils are desperate to move him. Well, they must not want to get rid of him that badly if they expect a package like that in return.
I’m wondering if there was more to the trade that than. Those were just the big names. But agreed the M’s should’ve hung up and not call the Phillies ever again.
 

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We'll have to think about moving Kirby or Gilbert soon, or we'll end with a billion dollar rotation in 2 or 3 years. But, it doesn't have to happen this winter. We have to get the right guy in return. Hoerner and Bohm aren't the right guys even though they would be better than anyone else we have acquired in recent memory.
 

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We'll have to think about moving Kirby or Gilbert soon, or we'll end with a billion dollar rotation in 2 or 3 years. But, it doesn't have to happen this winter. We have to get the right guy in return. Hoerner and Bohm aren't the right guys even though they would be better than anyone else we have acquired in recent memory.
I think.horner..would fit the team..
He hits 273..
So that's actually..good.for.2nd..hitter.
Cuz he does not hit as many hrs..
As..Julio..
Miranda .is .a dh.mostly.his.
Defence..not that good..
But being.av280..hitter..
Mariners should not pass..on checking in.
At any.rate..hes a 280.hitter..
And between.double A and Triple.
He hits 30.hrs.one year...
So.we.know .he can...
He just needs to put it .together..
And as far as average..he has

He's..
Only 26.years.old..so..
Twins have him.on depth chart.as..
First guy
At 1b...but he's more of a dh..

Before we get .to..
Tradeing..Gilbert..and Kirby..
Mariners.need..
Sloan..to.show up..so.we.all don't get.
Nervous..
And mcGraw.could be..a mlb pitcher.
As well.
 

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There is no.
Replacing.them..after.they.are.gone.
Any of the starting rotation..

So..then.ya get who you can.
For example..

No replacing..
A rod..
mariners.could not do.it.
Griffey.
Or Martinez..

Hall.of.fame guys all..
Randy Johnson..same.
 

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Mariners best.bet.is trade for horner.
Bringing Cole young.
For ss..
Will be soon.or.2b..

And 3b.still.sticks out..
But turner would be good.at 1b.
For know..this year.and.they could
Go to the playoffs..if they trade.
Castillo..
But if they don't..it's .not as likely..

But with that..kind of pitching.

Ya never .say..never..
 

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My whole point.is to fill.
#3.and..#4..
Horner and.
Miranda
Would do.that..although..
Horner would prob #2.
And
Julio.#3.
 

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Nelson cruz .there was no gitting.
Him back..
Stuff just happens
 

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What would Miranda cost..
I dont.know..
Maybe arroyo.
And a pitcher..

Montes I would be..hesitant..
To.trade.for.miranda..

But not hesitant.to trade..
Cuz.mariners have sundstrom.
 

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Mariners will be..needing.
Outfielders..in the minors..
By draft time .
And pitchers always.
 

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Some guys do come back.

Haniger ..
And.
Mark lowe.lolol
 

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We'll have to think about moving Kirby or Gilbert soon, or we'll end with a billion dollar rotation in 2 or 3 years. But, it doesn't have to happen this winter. We have to get the right guy in return. Hoerner and Bohm aren't the right guys even though they would be better than anyone else we have acquired in recent memory.
Someon wrote about them already thinking about building around this new upcoming group in the minors. I mean just because the first try didn't work doesn't mean this won't... Man they are irritating. I guess they can afford the pitchers in two years because they will only be paying Julio and maybe Cal with all other positions filled with rookie deals. I feel so lucky to be a fan.
 

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Someon wrote about them already thinking about building around this new upcoming group in the minors. I mean just because the first try didn't work doesn't mean this won't... Man they are irritating. I guess they can afford the pitchers in two years because they will only be paying Julio and maybe Cal with all other positions filled with rookie deals. I feel so lucky to be a fan.
Well, if contracts keep spiraling upward the way they are now, I'm not sure I would uinvest any money in the current starting lineup. Cal, as solid a he has been, has been abused. He's starting about 20-25 games at catcher more than he should be. Its going compromise his shelf life as an effecttive offensive weapon. We've seen it happen to too many catchers.

ARoz is probably only going to be with the Mariners one more year. He's an FA in 2027 and will undoubtedy get an 8-figure contract when he goes to arbitration next winter, no matter how much he plays of sucks. My guess they trade in July or next winter.

If Gilbert, FA in 2028, keeps on this pace for another two years, it will take 7 years/$260 million to re-sign him.
Kirby, FA in 2029, 7 years/$210 million
Gilbert and Kirby will both be 31 when they hit free agency
Woo will be a year younger, at 30, when he hits FA in 2030. It's too soon to tell about him, but assumming he keeps it going, 8 years/$304 million.
Bryce Miller will be an 'old man' at 32 when he becomes a FA in 2030. Who knows how he will pan out. But again, keeping the glass half full, 6 years/$180 million.

If anyone gets traded this winter, my money is on Kirby who regressed a little last season. Not much, but enough to be noticeable. Castillo is the guy I'd prefer they traded. He's 32 years old and is still owed $91million. But, Kirby, with no contract baggage, will be easier to move and bring back a better package.
 
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