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Agreed as long as it is the league and not just the Dodgers who use them as a farm team.
Yeah I meant the whole MLB. But after this Dodgers stuff something needs to happen. Being able to just sign Japanese or Korean pros IMO goes completely against the whole point of draft process. Not sure why Skenes got punished for being good going to the Pirates but Sasaki who is the same age gets more money and gets to choose his team.
 

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Makes you wonder if Ichiro or Brett or Gwynn might have hit .400 if they had played in Colorado or Boston or Toronto or Texas in their prime years.
Never really thought of that, but it is a great point. I remember the year Brett hit .390. It was fun to follow. Also remember when Carew hit .388 one year and the year Rose chased the hit streak. They would break in every AB to show it. Sorry, you got me going with your thought.
 

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MLB reports record $12.1 billion in revenues for 2024 season​


 

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Never really thought of that, but it is a great point. I remember the year Brett hit .390. It was fun to follow. Also remember when Carew hit .388 one year and the year Rose chased the hit streak. They would break in every AB to show it. Sorry, you got me going with your thought.
Not a problem. I know your historical baseball knowledge is extensive and therefore respected. I should have added Carew to my list. I thought about Boggs soon after my post, but I then thought that maybe Fenway helped him. So I used baseball Reference to research him. Sure enough, his lifetime BA at Fenway was .369. Everywhere else it was .306. He was definetely a great hitter deserving of recognition in its own right, but he was never a .400 threat in a hitter-neutral environment.
 

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Not a problem. I know your historical baseball knowledge is extensive and therefore respected. I should have added Carew to my list. I thought about Boggs soon after my post, but I then thought that maybe Fenway helped him. So I used baseball Reference to research him. Sure enough, his lifetime BA at Fenway was .369. Everywhere else it was .306. He was definetely a great hitter deserving of recognition in its own right, but he was never a .400 threat in a hitter-neutral environment.
I didn't realize the big difference in home/away splits for Boggs. I knew he banged a lot of those off the monster so it does make sense.

I know your historical baseball knowledge is extensive
Nice way of saying I am old and have watched a lot of baseball in my life...lol. I appreciate the direction you went with that. :suds: We were sports junkies in my family growing up. There was always a game on even back when we only had 10 channels, and we had to turn the channels by hand.
 

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Not a problem. I know your historical baseball knowledge is extensive and therefore respected. I should have added Carew to my list. I thought about Boggs soon after my post, but I then thought that maybe Fenway helped him. So I used baseball Reference to research him. Sure enough, his lifetime BA at Fenway was .369. Everywhere else it was .306. He was definetely a great hitter deserving of recognition in its own right, but he was never a .400 threat in a hitter-neutral environment.
As somewhat of an add-on to the conversation Zona and I have been having, here is a computer-generated simulation fo what Barry Boand's career stats might have looked like if he had played his entire career for the Colorado Rockies. This is not a pro nor con post for Bonds, it is simply a computer-driven simulation of what his stats may have been, which, overall, helps define a ballpark's offensive advantages.
 

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I didn't realize the big difference in home/away splits for Boggs. I knew he banged a lot of those off the monster so it does make sense.


Nice way of saying I am old and have watched a lot of baseball in my life...lol. I appreciate the direction you went with that. :suds: We were sports junkies in my family growing up. There was always a game on even back when we only had 10 channels, and we had to turn the channels by hand.
We are all old. My Dad knew my Mom was a big baseball fan, so, he got tickets and their second date was to the 7th game of the 1960 World Series game at Forbes Field. Naturally, Bill Mazeroski has always been my favorite player.
 

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As somewhat of an add-on to the conversation Zona and I have been having, here is a computer-generated simulation fo what Barry Boand's career stats might have looked like if he had played his entire career for the Colorado Rockies. This is not a pro nor con post for Bonds, it is simply a computer-driven simulation of what his stats may have been, which, overall, helps define a ballpark's offensive advantages.
That is insane. That 2001 season alone would be nuts. That was pretty dang cool. Thanks for that.
 

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I'm so tired of using the stadium as an excuse for lack of runs. Get some real fucking players in here that can hit. Runs will go up.
Ya I believe that is true as well. Just look at what Cano and Cruz did. Better hitters will still make you better.
 

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We are all old. My Dad knew my Mom was a big baseball fan, so, he got tickets and their second date was to the 7th game of the 1960 World Series game at Forbes Field. Naturally, Bill Mazeroski has always been my favorite player.
That is awesome! My ex and I would take vacations to where M's were at most of the time. I got lucky there. She liked it as much as I did.

Funny, in 1960 my parents were moving back from Europe and settling in WA which has cursed me ever since...lol. My mom's first time to the states and my dad returning after an army tour setting up his retirement after 23 years in. We may have grown up lower-middle class, but we had season tickets for the Seahawks for almost 10 years until his death. Sports and family were our priorities...lol.
 

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Isaiah.bonds.wr.texas..
Jalon royals..Utah state
Jalon noel .Iowa state..does a lot.of things.i.like ..and return.
 

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On list..wrs
Sam Brown....u of Miami..
Julian Fleming..Penn state.
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safeco was constructed at the height of steroid era and purposefully built to contain it. little did they know that era would end within a few years of safeco opening.

owners refuse to do anything to substantively try to make it work for post-steroid era ball and i think there are myriad reasons behind it. no matter what, it's PURELY a financial decision. sure, they don't want to spend money on construction/remodeling, but they also can use it as a crutch to not go after any marquee FA's who can hit. they know they'd have to overpay 20% minimum compared to other teams to get decent hitters to come here.
 

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Flemming is my sleeper
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Mariners could get .something.done.
At the 11..hour...
Late is ok .in this case .
Maybe..lolo
 

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That is awesome! My ex and I would take vacations to where M's were at most of the time. I got lucky there. She liked it as much as I did.

Funny, in 1960 my parents were moving back from Europe and settling in WA which has cursed me ever since...lol. My mom's first time to the states and my dad returning after an army tour setting up his retirement after 23 years in. We may have grown up lower-middle class, but we had season tickets for the Seahawks for almost 10 years until his death. Sports and family were our priorities...lol.
I grew up lower middle class as well. Wrong side of the railroad tracks both figuratively and literally. I lived in a country neighborhood on the north side of highway 10 in the western outskirts of Houston. A railroad track ran alongside I10. Our neighborhood was on septic and well water and was populated mainly by poor white trash. The other side of the railroad track was being heavily developed with new neighborhoods for upper middle class income families. We all went to the same high school and it was pretty easy to tell who came from where. The girls from my side of the railroad track wore boots with traces of horse manure. The girls on their side smelled like Chanel #5.
 

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Mariners could get .something.done.
At the 11..hour...
Late is ok .in this case .
Maybe..lolo
JerJer's priority is not improving the team, it is further reducing the payroll through trades disguised to look like he is improving the team. Same thing he did last offseason. The goal has not changed. But it was easier last year with more tradeable players in Robbie Ray, Kelenic, and Marco Gonzalez. Nobody wants the Miserable Mitches even if they are gift wrapped with a young pitcher.

But I can see them making a few moves at the deadline when they are 10-15 games under .500. JP will get moved. Any effective relief pitchers we have, other than Munoz and Brash, will be traded. Logan Gibert, with his refusal to sign longterm and his second year of arbitration pending (and most likely a $10-12 million contract) in the winter of 25-26, could be gone too.
 
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