LOTS of Dallas rumors.......

[OutlawImmortal]

You act like Kobe's a bad player lol. Dwight doesn't have what it takes to be Batman anyway, yet, which was Kobe's point, and if you really don't want Dwight then you would agree with that sentiment also.

 

[starbigd]

You act like Kobe's a bad player lol. Dwight doesn't have what it takes to be Batman anyway, yet, which was Kobe's point, and if you really don't want Dwight then you would agree with that sentiment also.

Kobe's a HORRIBLE player in terms of helping a guy like Dwight out. There's nothing he can teach him outside of "take all the shots and never pass"

I agree that Dwight doesn't have that mentality, but that doesn't mean DWIGHT thinks that way. He's openly stated he wants to be not just batman, but Superman.......and he can't be that in LA.

In Dallas and Houston fans aren't going to grouse at him for only putting up 17 and 12 a night. There's going to be no pressure to win a title immediately. He won't have to deal with the press all over his back. And he'll be on a much younger team with great ownership. He won't have to put up with being second fiddle, getting blamed for the losses, or a coach that has no idea how to use him. He'll be the focal point from the get go.

There's just better upside to the Texas teams than to LA right now, at least for Dwight. LA doesn't offer anything for him that beats that outside of maybe city life and money - altho the money can be offset.

 

[ColinCoby]

Kobe's a HORRIBLE player in terms of helping a guy like Dwight out. There's nothing he can teach him outside of "take all the shots and never pass"

I agree that Dwight doesn't have that mentality, but that doesn't mean DWIGHT thinks that way. He's openly stated he wants to be not just batman, but Superman.......and he can't be that in LA.

In Dallas and Houston fans aren't going to grouse at him for only putting up 17 and 12 a night. There's going to be no pressure to win a title immediately. He won't have to deal with the press all over his back. And he'll be on a much younger team with great ownership. He won't have to put up with being second fiddle, getting blamed for the losses, or a coach that has no idea how to use him. He'll be the focal point from the get go.

There's just better upside to the Texas teams than to LA right now, at least for Dwight. LA doesn't offer anything for him that beats that outside of maybe city life and money - altho the money can be offset.

Agree with all of this...

And yet, he'll probably be a dumbass and resign with the Lakers. Then we'll be stuck with the soap opera until Kobe retires.

 

[starbigd]

Agree with all of this...

And yet, he'll probably be a dumbass and resign with the Lakers. Then we'll be stuck with the soap opera until Kobe retires.

You can never tell with that dude.

He couldn't WAIT to get out of Orlando, then he resigned with them........he's all over the map.

 

[starbigd]

Ramona Shelburne ‏@ramonashelburne 6h

One THEORY that wont go away is that Rockets option is smoke to throw people off scent Dwight has been ticketed for Dallas all along.


Ramona is a beat writer for the Lakers. What she's talking about is that Dwight/Cuban planned for him to go to Dallas BEFORE he was traded to LA......well that's the theory anyway. Man this one tweet is causing all kinds of havoc online.......they are discussing that there's no way Cuban would blow up a championship team unless he knew he was going to land Dwight.

 

[OutlawImmortal]

Kobe's a HORRIBLE player in terms of helping a guy like Dwight out. There's nothing he can teach him outside of "take all the shots and never pass"

I agree that Dwight doesn't have that mentality, but that doesn't mean DWIGHT thinks that way. He's openly stated he wants to be not just batman, but Superman.......and he can't be that in LA.

In Dallas and Houston fans aren't going to grouse at him for only putting up 17 and 12 a night. There's going to be no pressure to win a title immediately. He won't have to deal with the press all over his back. And he'll be on a much younger team with great ownership. He won't have to put up with being second fiddle, getting blamed for the losses, or a coach that has no idea how to use him. He'll be the focal point from the get go.

There's just better upside to the Texas teams than to LA right now, at least for Dwight. LA doesn't offer anything for him that beats that outside of maybe city life and money - altho the money can be offset.

Kobe can teach him a whole lot, Kobe learned from Phil Jackson as well as Magic Johnson. Besides that, it's not just Kobe, it's Magic, Kareem, and everyone else involved with the Laker organization who's been there and done it all before, which is more than a couple. Kobe has more titles than Houston and Dallas combined.

Dirk plays older than Kobe and I don't know about you but I don't see James Harden being a central part of a championship team. Obviously Dwight isn't very convinced either if he's asking for another star. I'm not saying he stays but I don't think it's a dumb decision at all for him to stay, no where near to what you claim it to be. We got cap coming on the way and the only way you can say the Lakers are going to take years to rebuild is if we are taking on young projects, when you know we get already established talent.

 

[wildturkey]

Kobe's a HORRIBLE player in terms of helping a guy like Dwight out. There's nothing he can teach him outside of "take all the shots and never pass"

I agree that Dwight doesn't have that mentality, but that doesn't mean DWIGHT thinks that way. He's openly stated he wants to be not just batman, but Superman.......and he can't be that in LA.

In Dallas and Houston fans aren't going to grouse at him for only putting up 17 and 12 a night. There's going to be no pressure to win a title immediately. He won't have to deal with the press all over his back. And he'll be on a much younger team with great ownership. He won't have to put up with being second fiddle, getting blamed for the losses, or a coach that has no idea how to use him. He'll be the focal point from the get go.

There's just better upside to the Texas teams than to LA right now, at least for Dwight. LA doesn't offer anything for him that beats that outside of maybe city life and money - altho the money can be offset.

What you're saying may apply to Dallas, but not Houston. You've said before that Houston can contend for titles. If they get Dwight, he'll be looked as the piece to put them over the top. So if they fail to meet those expectations, he's going to get the same pressures he'd get in LA. And in Houston, he'll also be 2nd fiddle. Despite Dwight's opinion of himself, he's not the post option he thinks he is. Houston's main cog is and will continue to be James Harden. For their offense to be at its best, Dwight will be used in screens (Harden/Howard with Parsons posted up in a weakside corner) for the majority of the time. They'll toss in some extra post plays to keep Dwight placated. Ironically, its very similar to how D'Antoni would use Dwight. If he goes to Houston, it won't be near what he thinks it will be. Dallas may be the better option for what he has in his head for how he should be used. As for LA, its really no different than Houston imo. The only difference is if he stays in LA, he'll have to wait 1 year to fully realize his long term future. Given Dwight's attitude over the last 3 years, I believe he barely grasps what the weekend holds for him much less 2 or 3 years down the line.

 

[Heatles84]

Kobe's a HORRIBLE player in terms of helping a guy like Dwight out. There's nothing he can teach him outside of "take all the shots and never pass"

I agree that Dwight doesn't have that mentality, but that doesn't mean DWIGHT thinks that way. He's openly stated he wants to be not just batman, but Superman.......and he can't be that in LA.

In Dallas and Houston fans aren't going to grouse at him for only putting up 17 and 12 a night. There's going to be no pressure to win a title immediately. He won't have to deal with the press all over his back. And he'll be on a much younger team with great ownership. He won't have to put up with being second fiddle, getting blamed for the losses, or a coach that has no idea how to use him. He'll be the focal point from the get go.

There's just better upside to the Texas teams than to LA right now, at least for Dwight. LA doesn't offer anything for him that beats that outside of maybe city life and money - altho the money can be offset.

I hate to tell you this, but if Dwight goes over to Houston there will be some pressure wherever he goes to win. When you pull the BS that he has for the past two seasons and you make every situation a joke then people (including the national media) will start to criticize you. Lebron had to feel the pressure when he came down to win in Miami, and he was already feeling the pressure in Cleveland due to the type of player he is.

If there's no "pressure" to win then that says your team's not really a title contending team. All title contending teams face pressure to win. Kobe's Lakers had to deal with it, Dirk had to deal with it. It's just the way it is. Also you said that fans won't get on him for putting up 17 and 12 a night. For as great a center that Dwight thinks he is, that's actually really mediocre. If you build a team around Harden and Dwight and that's his average then you're in for a rude awakening. Same situation if it's Dirk and Dwight.

 

[trojanfan12]

He never said that they would be there. He actually said exactly what you are saying would happen. That is blowing it up and rebuilding. Dwight will not want to be a part of that when both the Rockets and Mavs will be further along.

When they blow it up next off season they will literally have 1 position figured out. Aging Kobe. Nash is too old. The Lakers #1 will be Kobe. Nobody wants to sign onto that.

What part of only Nash will be under contract doesn't get through!!

Kobe's contract is up after next season and it is not a slam dunk that the Lakers sign him to another one. There are many variables. With the Achilles injury, no one knows what level Kobe will be able to return at. If he doesn't like the level he can play at, he's likely to retire.

 

[trojanfan12]

Ramona Shelburne ‏@ramonashelburne 6h

One THEORY that wont go away is that Rockets option is smoke to throw people off scent Dwight has been ticketed for Dallas all along.


Ramona is a beat writer for the Lakers. What she's talking about is that Dwight/Cuban planned for him to go to Dallas BEFORE he was traded to LA......well that's the theory anyway. Man this one tweet is causing all kinds of havoc online.......they are discussing that there's no way Cuban would blow up a championship team unless he knew he was going to land Dwight.

If that happened while he was under contract, it's collusion and Dallas could be in a heap of trouble!!

 

[trojanfan12]

I hate to tell you this, but if Dwight goes over to Houston there will be some pressure wherever he goes to win. When you pull the BS that he has for the past two seasons and you make every situation a joke then people (including the national media) will start to criticize you. Lebron had to feel the pressure when he came down to win in Miami, and he was already feeling the pressure in Cleveland due to the type of player he is.

If there's no "pressure" to win then that says your team's not really a title contending team. All title contending teams face pressure to win. Kobe's Lakers had to deal with it, Dirk had to deal with it. It's just the way it is. Also you said that fans won't get on him for putting up 17 and 12 a night. For as great a center that Dwight thinks he is, that's actually really mediocre. If you build a team around Harden and Dwight and that's his average then you're in for a rude awakening. Same situation if it's Dirk and Dwight.

and this is why the majority of Laker fans either don't care if he re-signs or don't want him to re-sign!! He hasn't shown in any way, that he has what it takes to lead a team to a championship.

His offensive game is as limited as it was in his first season, his free throw shooting seems to have actually gotten worse and when Steve Nash (one of the most accurate free throw shooters in NBA history) offered to help him, he declined the offer. When he had the opportunity to step up and actually lead the team in the playoffs vs. San Antonio.....he fouled out!!

That was his opportunity to show Kobe and everyone else that he is the leader that he thinks he is. Not that it would have made any difference in the outcome of the series, but a monster series from him, would have shown a lot!!

 

[starbigd]

If that happened while he was under contract, it's collusion and Dallas could be in a heap of trouble!!

ALL KINDS OF TROUBLE

But it's an interesting theory either way. They are discussing that him even talking to Houston was a smoke screen to throw anyone off the scent that this was a setup from the beginning. When he was in Orlando, he openly stated he had no interest in Houston.

Frankly speaking, I wouldn't put any of this past Cuban......if he thought he could get away with it I'd bet the farm he'd do it.

If Howard signs with Dallas, I guarantee you this story doesn't go away, at least not in Texas.

 

[trojanfan12]

ALL KINDS OF TROUBLE

But it's an interesting theory either way. They are discussing that him even talking to Houston was a smoke screen to throw anyone off the scent that this was a setup from the beginning. When he was in Orlando, he openly stated he had no interest in Houston.

Frankly speaking, I wouldn't put any of this past Cuban......if he thought he could get away with it I'd bet the farm he'd do it.

If Howard signs with Dallas, I guarantee you this story doesn't go away, at least not in Texas.

Heck yes he'd do it and I wouldn't blame him!! I'd want the Lakers to do it to if I thought they could get away with it!!

Having said that, I doubt that the theory is true, but it will definitely make for some serious debate in both Houston and L.A. if he signs with the Mavs!!

 

[Hambombs]

If the reports are true on having the best chance to win it all he should go to Houston or golden state plain and simple

 

[starbigd]

I hate to tell you this, but if Dwight goes over to Houston there will be some pressure wherever he goes to win. When you pull the BS that he has for the past two seasons and you make every situation a joke then people (including the national media) will start to criticize you. Lebron had to feel the pressure when he came down to win in Miami, and he was already feeling the pressure in Cleveland due to the type of player he is.

If there's no "pressure" to win then that says your team's not really a title contending team. All title contending teams face pressure to win. Kobe's Lakers had to deal with it, Dirk had to deal with it. It's just the way it is. Also you said that fans won't get on him for putting up 17 and 12 a night. For as great a center that Dwight thinks he is, that's actually really mediocre. If you build a team around Harden and Dwight and that's his average then you're in for a rude awakening. Same situation if it's Dirk and Dwight.

In a general sense, you're correct. But not in an applicable sense. Dallas has ONE ring. They've NEVER had a great center. There's no legacy to live up to. There's nowhere NEAR the media scrutiny and presence as there is in LA. There is not an expectation the first year of championship or bust.

Fans in Dallas KNOW they will need other pieces, and have plenty of playoff failures to remember. That's not the case in LA.

There may be a general belief that the team SHOULD be contending, and they will. There won't be an EXPECTATION that they should be winning every game every night and waxing the league on the way to a title.

There is a large difference there, that you need to realize.

 

[Eriko212121]

I think he is coming to Dallas. It was rumored last year that Dallas was his first choice, but he heard all the BS about LA and went there, and it was a disaster. He vetoed trades to Houston, I dont think he goes there. He had originally stated he would decide on the 10th, but after his meeting with Dallas, he is now gonna announce Friday. He knows Cuban is committed to winning, as is Dirk, shown in the fact that he will take a pay cut next year to bring in more talent. But with Howard, who knows? The wind might blow tomorrow. I'd be just as happy with Jefferson

 

[starbigd]

Kobe can teach him a whole lot, Kobe learned from Phil Jackson as well as Magic Johnson. Besides that, it's not just Kobe, it's Magic, Kareem, and everyone else involved with the Laker organization who's been there and done it all before, which is more than a couple. Kobe has more titles than Houston and Dallas combined.

Dirk plays older than Kobe and I don't know about you but I don't see James Harden being a central part of a championship team. Obviously Dwight isn't very convinced either if he's asking for another star. I'm not saying he stays but I don't think it's a dumb decision at all for him to stay, no where near to what you claim it to be. We got cap coming on the way and the only way you can say the Lakers are going to take years to rebuild is if we are taking on young projects, when you know we get already established talent.

Kobe can't teach him squat.

You need to realize this. Kobe is going to do exactly what he did last year - take all the shots, then grouse to the media that Dwight needs to step up. That's not teaching, that's blaming. He can't teach Dwight anything about being a dominant center.

Dwight didn't care for LA last season.......and Kobe just told him it's going to be MORE of the same. Dude your homerism is blocking you from seeing the OBVIOUS FAIL in this strategy, as well as the holes in your roster.

No young talent is going to be excited about playing with the geriatric Lakers that are trending down, not up. NO young talent wants to be on a rebuilding roster with no draft picks.

LA offers Dwight very little outside of a large city and more money. They aren't going to contend next season, or the season after that. So you are essentially asking him to be Kobe's bitch for another few years while management figures out how to fill out the roster on 99% free agents.

Simply put, your position on this is LAUGHABLE. Its one thing to say you want him to resign. It's quite another to say LA is the best option.......LOL

 

[OutlawImmortal]

Kobe can't teach him squat.

You need to realize this. Kobe is going to do exactly what he did last year - take all the shots, then grouse to the media that Dwight needs to step up. That's not teaching, that's blaming. He can't teach Dwight anything about being a dominant center.

Dwight didn't care for LA last season.......and Kobe just told him it's going to be MORE of the same. Dude your homerism is blocking you from seeing the OBVIOUS FAIL in this strategy, as well as the holes in your roster.

No young talent is going to be excited about playing with the geriatric Lakers that are trending down, not up. NO young talent wants to be on a rebuilding roster with no draft picks.

LA offers Dwight very little outside of a large city and more money. They aren't going to contend next season, or the season after that. So you are essentially asking him to be Kobe's bitch for another few years while management figures out how to fill out the roster on 99% free agents.

Simply put, your position on this is LAUGHABLE. Its one thing to say you want him to resign. It's quite another to say LA is the best option.......LOL

Yeah, Dwight should go to Houston, Harden, Parsons and Lin know how to win championships lol. Maybe Dallas where he can play with old ass Dirk.

 

[scotsman1948]

Yeah, Dwight should go to Houston, Harden, Parsons and Lin know how to win championships lol. Maybe Dallas where he can play with old ass Dirk.

they do?

 

[Flauge]

who taught Jordan to win championships? Who taught Kobe? Why is this such a difficult thing to do on your own?