Looks like LA is a go...

[Red_Chaos]

looking at tickets before the game i couldnt believe how high they were still, unless you wanted to sit in no man's land..

 

[Battlelyon]

St. Louis approves $150 million for new NFL stadium
Posted by Michael David Smith on December 18, 2015, 6:42 PM EST
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The city of St. Louis has committed to spending $150 million to build a new NFL stadium — even though there’s no NFL team committed to playing in St. Louis.

As expected, the vote today at St. Louis City Hall resulted in passage of the plan that would pony up $150 million for a new stadium. That plan, however, is not good enough for the league because it calls on the NFL itself to spend $300 million on the stadium. The NFL says it will spend no more than $200 million.

But while the NFL says the St. Louis plan isn’t good enough, it may be good enough to persuade some owners that the league shouldn’t abandon St. Louis. And with Rams owner Stan Kroenke seeking the approval of 23 other owners to move to Los Angeles, all it takes is nine owners thinking the St. Louis plan sounds good for Kroenke to lose out on the approval he seeks.

So while the St. Louis vote today doesn’t guarantee the Rams will stay in St. Louis, it will make it harder for the Rams and the NFL to claim the city hasn’t supported the team. And if the city is supporting the team, it’s hard to justify leaving.

 

[shopson67]

And if the city is supporting the team, it’s hard to justify leaving.

Dead last in attendance per game and percentage of capacity sold. Does that display support for the team?

 

[27mtrcougar]

Dead last in attendance per game and percentage of capacity sold. Does that display support for the team?

The fact that St. Louis has approved two brand-new NFL stadiums in the last 25 years proves this is a very strong football city. When was the last time LA , San Diego or Oakland build a stadium. 50 years?

 

[27mtrcougar]

looking at tickets before the game i couldnt believe how high they were still, unless you wanted to sit in no man's land..

They are very expensive... you would think with the product they put on the field they would lowerer the prices. But not Stan.

 

[27mtrcougar]

So basically what this means is St. Louis has a brand new stadium plan in place!! Thanks to Dave Peacock. Now we will have to wait till January when the owners vote. Will the NFL actually have the stones to pull the Rams from St. Louis when there's a new stadium plan in place? That has never happened before and would look very bad on the NFL. Especially considering the citys of San Diego and Oakland have nothing on the table.

 

[LongtimeRamsFan42]

So basically what this means is St. Louis has a brand new stadium plan in place!! Thanks to Dave Peacock. Now we will have to wait till January when the owners vote. Will the NFL actually have the stones to pull the Rams from St. Louis when there's a new stadium plan in place? That has never happened before and would look very bad on the NFL. Especially considering the citys of San Diego and Oakland have nothing on the table.

No, they actually don't. If you read the article, the 150 mil is contingent on the NFL coming up with 300 mil. The NFL hasen't offered more than 200 mil, so this means next to nothing...

 

[27mtrcougar]

No, they actually don't. If you read the article, the 150 mil is contingent on the NFL coming up with 300 mil. The NFL hasen't offered more than 200 mil, so this means next to nothing...

On December 30 St. Louis will be able to present to the NFL their stadium plan. San Diego and Oakland have nothing. They will come up with the 300 million they can't legally say they're given it to the Rams before the vote. San Diego or Oakland could say what about us where's are 300m. They basically would be saying St. Louis won before the vote. The NFL is covering the bases

 

[Rambunctious]

So basically what this means is St. Louis has a brand new stadium plan in place!! Thanks to Dave Peacock. Now we will have to wait till January when the owners vote. Will the NFL actually have the stones to pull the Rams from St. Louis when there's a new stadium plan in place? That has never happened before and would look very bad on the NFL. Especially considering the citys of San Diego and Oakland have nothing on the table.

Business is business and sometimes it's ugly...but what is ugly to one is not so to another.

 

[LongtimeRamsFan42]

On December 30 St. Louis will be able to present to the NFL their stadium plan. San Diego and Oakland have nothing. They will come up with the 300 million they can't legally say they're given it to the Rams before the vote. San Diego or Oakland could say what about us where's are 300m. They basically would be saying St. Louis won before the vote. The NFL is covering the bases

Could the NFL come up with another 100mil? Of course, but as of now, you absolutely CANNOT assume that's a done deal. Why? it sets a VERY dangerous precedent. Who says the next time a team is in a similar position they don't demand 500 mil from the NFL???
Plus, you don't think the Raider and Charger organizations are already saying that? Of course they are. They know about what's going on behind the scenes MUCH better than we do and you can bet they're wondering where their equal piece of the pie is...

 

[27mtrcougar]

Business is business and sometimes it's ugly...but what is ugly to one is not so to another.

I'm pretty sure the owners are going to block Stan and go with the Carson project.

 

[LongtimeRamsFan42]

I'm pretty sure the owners are going to block Stan and go with the Carson project.

Thing is, there are enough votes to block that proposal as well. There are owners behind Stan(including Jerry Jones)who would vote against the Carson project. In other words, this might turn into a complete and utter cluster-you know what...Then again isn't it already lol

 

[27mtrcougar]

Could the NFL come up with another 100mil? Of course, but as of now, you absolutely CANNOT assume that's a done deal. Why? it sets a VERY dangerous precedent. Who says the next time a team is in a similar position they don't demand 500 mil from the NFL???
Plus, you don't think the Raider and Charger organizations are already saying that? Of course they are. They know about what's going on behind the scenes MUCH better than we do and you can bet they're wondering where their equal piece of the pie is...

That's correct that why they can't say legally they are going to give the Rams 300m. Because San Diego could say where is our money even though they have no stadium plan in place.

 

[LongtimeRamsFan42]

That's correct that why they can't say legally they are going to give the Rams 300m. Because San Diego could say where is our money even though they have no stadium plan in place.

Well, last I checked, The Chargers and Raiders are part of the NFL. If there is a plan to give the Rams an extra 100mil, they'd definitely have to know about it. So if the Rams are getting an extra 100mil, the Raiders and/or Chargers would potentially get the same, if not more. Like I said, giving the Rams extra money sets a very dangerous/expensive precedent for the future and I'm not sure they'll want to do that. But of course, you never know...

 

[27mtrcougar]

Well, last I checked, The Chargers and Raiders are part of the NFL. If there is a plan to give the Rams an extra 100mil, they'd definitely have to know about it. So if the Rams are getting an extra 100mil, the Raiders and/or Chargers would potentially get the same, if not more. Like I said, giving the Rams extra money sets a very dangerous/expensive precedent for the future and I'm not sure they'll want to do that. But of course, you never know...

That's true but the Chargers and Raiders have no plan in place to use the 100m towards a new stadium. They are out of time. Unless the NFL puts LA on hold for another year but I don't see that.

 

[LongtimeRamsFan42]

That's true but the Chargers and Raiders have no plan in place to use the 100m towards a new stadium. They are out of time. Unless the NFL puts LA on hold for another year but I don't see that.

Agreed, but what the Chargers and Raiders have to bargain with is that BS 500mil relocation fee, something Stan would pay without even thinking about it...Like I've been saying, there are a ton of things going on here

 

[LongtimeRamsFan42]

BTW, I'm not sure any team will be playing in LA next season...Didn't the league just schedule us to play a "home game" in London next season? Seems to me that kind of levels the playing field in some ways and means the NFL will likely come to L.A. in 2017(us or not)...

 

[Battlelyon]

Two L.A. Committee members suggested extra $100 million for St. Louis stadium
Posted by Mike Florio on December 19, 2015, 10:57 PM EST
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The ultimate reality show is in the process of launching a spin-off that could be nearly as compelling.

The NFL’s effort to return to Los Angeles quickly is careening toward a potentially ugly fight in January, as competing factions not only solidify but begin to engage in conduct that will make it even harder to persuade 24 owners to get behind any one proposal.

The latest example of dysfunction comes from the phantom $100 million from the NFL that the St. Louis Board of Alderman included in the stadium financing package that was approved on Friday. So how did that extra $100 million commitment — which the NFL has disavowed in writing — get into the package?

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the extra contribution was suggested to the St. Louis stadium task force by one of the six members of the league’s Committee on Los Angeles Opportunities. The source says that a second L.A. committee member echoed the commitment.

While unable to bind the league, the committee members indicated that the extra $100 million would come from the redistribution of relocation fees paid by the team(s) that move to L.A.

It’s unknown which committee members were involved in making the promise/suggestion/whatever to St. Louis regarding the extra $100 million. If neither Panthers owner Jerry Richardson nor Texans owner Bob McNair (who both are on the record as favoring a new St. Louis stadium for the Rams) were involved in the communications, it means that more than two of the six committee members currently believe that the Rams shouldn’t move to L.A. — and that the Chargers should.

Regardless of which members of the committee made the $100 million non-commitment, the committee is giving Rams owner Stan Kroenke plenty of ammunition for pushing back against the final recommendation of the committee — either in the meeting room or, eventually, in a courtroom.

Whether a courtroom can be avoided will depend in large on whether Commissioner Roger Goodell ultimately can broker a deal that leaves the Rams, Chargers, and Raiders happy. As of now, it’s becoming more and more clear that it will be difficult for Goodell to forge a final consensus that keeps the full scope of folks responsible for employing and paying him happy.

 

[Battlelyon]

Some how I see this going to court.

 

[Retroram52]

Much of this could have been resolved if the City of St Louis, NFL, and Kroneke would have addressed the issue a year or so ago. The city fooled around knowing they were going to lose a cash cow if they waited too long and then threw together a plan to save their money. Kroneke wasn't talking either because he knew he was going to move. This is a typical shit storm that always surrounds the Rams.