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The Wiz is a good OC. But he is terrible at developing players. He won in AZ with Denny "They are who we thought they were!" Green's players. If MM is going to succeed, It's going to be with another coach.

There isn't a single head coach in the league better-suited to Mariota than Whisenhunt.

That excuse is nil.
 

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Unfortunately, that's the way the NFL is today. If you get drafted by a bad team your chance of being a long time starter as a QB is very low. I hate the "play them immediately" mind set. I think rookies should sit for half a year minimum, longer for QBs. If we look at the really good passers down the years a good majority of them sat behind a veteran for a year or two before taking the reins. I am quite frankly tired of the NFL chewing up rookie QBs and discarding them.

No being drafted by a bad team is not what determines a long time starter, the players talent is what determines that.
 

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No being drafted by a bad team is not what determines a long time starter, the players talent is what determines that.
Name one player that single-handedly changed a bad team to a good team after being drafted.
 

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Anybody watching Winston tonight? Surprised there is not a thread for that game.

He's not looking too good, did get a rushing TD there at the end of the half.
 

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Winston ended 9 of 19 with a INT. Mariota finished 7 of 8 with an INT.
 

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it's called an offensive line. Something the Titans don't have.
 

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Name one player that single-handedly changed a bad team to a good team after being drafted.


Thats not what you said. You said being drafted by a bad team hurts your chances your chances of being a long term starter.

Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, and Ben Roethlisberger all went to bad teams and Ben went 13-0 leading that team to the playoffs. A talented rookie on a bad will still be a long time starter.
 

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it's called an offensive line. Something the Titans don't have.
Oh OD, you've gone from "of course he'll be amazing and turn that franchise around, he was the heisman." To "damn o-line," in one preseason game...

:thumb:
 

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Oh OD, you've gone from "of course he'll be amazing and turn that franchise around, he was the heisman." To "damn o-line," in one preseason game...

:thumb:

And now he's saying if Mariota doesn't have a long career it's because the Titans are bad.
 

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it's called an offensive line. Something the Titans don't have.

You are correct. Worst line in the league although near the top in money spent on the line and draft picks spent on it which shows that just because you throw resources there it doesn't guarantee anything. Our GM he did good picking the QB's the past two years but until he and Whisenhunt are gone i just don't see us winning as much as we should.
 

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And now he's saying if Mariota doesn't have a long career it's because the Titans are bad.
No, I'm say that there a very good possibility a rookie QB forced to start from game one on a bad team gets injured. Which in turn could end his career prematurely. Looking at the way the Titans o-line was blocking in that game I could see Mariota getting injured very easily this year.
 

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No, I'm say that there a very good possibility a rookie QB forced to start from game one on a bad team gets injured. Which in turn could end his career prematurely. Looking at the way the Titans o-line was blocking in that game I could see Mariota getting injured very easily this year.

History has shown good rookie QB's take a beating thier first couple of years then become long time very good to great qb's. Bad QB's are bad QB's no matter what the rest of the team is.
 

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History has shown good rookie QB's take a beating thier first couple of years then become long time very good to great qb's. Bad QB's are bad QB's no matter what the rest of the team is.
Yes, but the more beating they take the higher chance for a career ending injury. With modern medicine it's less likely but still a possibility. I think if Mariota avoids the big injuries he will turn the tide for Tennessee.
 

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If anyone is trying to state whether Winston or Mariota is going to be good after 1 preseason game. They are a fool. Both looked uncomfortable to begin with. Then both settled down. Neither team has a good OL.
 

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LMFAO and now a terrible pick-6. kid is a turnover machine and needs to be benched.
 
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