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Established how? The last time we saw Harbaugh's "established roster" you were getting smoked by a mediocre Florida offense and before that, got absolutely destroyed by a Ryan Day-led OSU offense.
An Urban lead offense. And against Florida in a game without multiple established starters.
 

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Harbaugh has had an established defense the entire time at Michigan. He has continually made atrocious in game decisions decisions. Michigan is throwing a guy who has never called a play in a game in his life to be in complete control of their offense. How is that not an unknown?
It is an unknown, as opposed to an entire coaching staff being unknown. And since defense has been our strength, tinkering with the offense (which wasn't great) really only has room to improve.

OSU is replacing the best coach in history, with an unknown coach and staff. Michigan is replacing one of the worst offensive coaches in history, with an unknown. See the difference?
 

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It is an unknown, as opposed to an entire coaching staff being unknown. And since defense has been our strength, tinkering with the offense (which wasn't great) really only has room to improve.
Yeah I said the same thing after the 2017 season about our offense.
 

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An Urban lead offense. And against Florida in a game without multiple established starters.
Nah, it was Day's offense. It's not a coincidence that as soon as Day came on board, JT Barrett went back to his RS freshman form and lit it up in 2017, then Haskins became a record-breaker last year. You say all this stuff about Day's abilities and accomplishments without actually even trying to learn anything about him. Basically if he's an unknown to you, he's an unknown to all of college football. Turns out, you're just lagging behind.
 

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Yeah I said the same thing after the 2017 season about our offense.
Well, we weren't Michigan State offense bad. It's hard not to look at the dramatic shift in both offensive philosophy, and break from Harbaugh's ego in controlling the offense, and be encouraged. Everything coming out from national media is nothing but positive about the Gattis hire.
 

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Nah, it was Day's offense. It's not a coincidence that as soon as Day came on board, JT Barrett went back to his RS freshman form and lit it up in 2017, then Haskins became a record-breaker last year. You say all this stuff about Day's abilities and accomplishments without actually even trying to learn anything about him. Basically if he's an unknown to you, he's an unknown to all of college football. Turns out, you're just lagging behind.
This is nothing but what you hope happened. To suggest that one of the top 2-3 coaches in CFB history had nothing to do with the improvements is, IMO, silly.
 

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It is an unknown, as opposed to an entire coaching staff being unknown. And since defense has been our strength, tinkering with the offense (which wasn't great) really only has room to improve.

OSU is replacing the best coach in history, with an unknown coach and staff. Michigan is replacing one of the worst offensive coaches in history, with an unknown. See the difference?
LOL at the "entire coaching staff" being an unknown. Larry Johnson, Kevin Wilson, Mike Yurcich, Tony Alford, Greg Mattison, and Al Washington are known commodities with track records of success. Stupid comment on your part.
 

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LOL at the "entire coaching staff" being an unknown. Larry Johnson, Kevin Wilson, Mike Yurcich, Tony Alford, Greg Mattison, and Al Washington are known commodities with track records of success. Stupid comment on your part.
Yup. You hired two people responsible for the 60+ shelling we took on last year...one of them demoted to defensive line coach when Harbaugh got hired.
 

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This is nothing but what you hope happened. To suggest that one of the top 2-3 coaches in CFB history had nothing to do with the improvements is, IMO, silly.
Take a look at our offense in 2015 and 2016 and compare it to 2017 and 2018:

2015 - 24th nationally in offensive efficiency (with guys like Zeke Elliott and Michael Thomas, among others)
2016 - 25th nationally
2017 (Day's first season with OSU) - 6th nationally
2018 - 6th nationally

Meyer was there in 2015 and 2016, no?
 

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Yup. You hired two people responsible for the 60+ shelling we took on last year...one of them demoted to defensive line coach when Harbaugh got hired.
LMAO at them being the ones responsible but not the rest of the defensive coaches that remained on michigan's staff.
 

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Well, we weren't Michigan State offense bad. It's hard not to look at the dramatic shift in both offensive philosophy, and break from Harbaugh's ego in controlling the offense, and be encouraged. Everything coming out from national media is nothing but positive about the Gattis hire.
Yes, and nothing but positives came out about Nussmeyer’s hire. You do realize that this is the same shit different day. They national media isn’t coming in to watch things. They are going by the local media that is bought and paid for by Michigan. You are bringing in a guy to run Chip Kelly’s offense but has no experience at all on how to do it.
 

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Yup. You hired two people responsible for the 60+ shelling we took on last year...one of them demoted to defensive line coach when Harbaugh got hired.
Wait, I thought defense was your strong suit that you're leaning on?
 

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Take a look at our offense in 2015 and 2016 and compare it to 2017 and 2018:

2015 - 24th nationally in offensive efficiency (with guys like Zeke Elliott and Michael Thomas, among others)
2016 - 25th nationally
2017 (Day's first season with OSU) - 6th nationally
2018 - 6th nationally

Meyer was there in 2015 and 2016, no?
OSU scoring offense by year:

2018 - 8
2017 - 6
2016 - 13
2015 - 28
2014 - 5
2013 - 3

Outside of 2016, Meyer's offenses have always been elite.
 

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Wait, I thought defense was your strong suit that you're leaning on?
The guys he kept were the good ones, the ones that left were the problems. Obviously.
 
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Yes, and nothing but positives came out about Nussmeyer’s hire. You do realize that this is the same shit different day. They national media isn’t coming in to watch things. They are going by the local media that is bought and paid for by Michigan. You are bringing in a guy to run Chip Kelly’s offense but has no experience at all on how to do it.
He's not running Chip Kelly's offense, where did you get that? From everything I've seen, a lot of the same elements of the Harbaugh offense are going to be there, TE passing, power running - but - it's going to operate more out of the shotgun and also implement more quick passing to the outside. I very much doubt we see anything like a Chip Kelly offense.
 

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OSU scoring offense by year:

2018 - 8
2017 - 6
2016 - 13
2015 - 28
2014 - 5
2013 - 3

Outside of 2016, Meyer's offenses have always been elite.
2013 and 2014, Meyer had Tom Herman as his OC. 2015 and 2016, he had shit leading his offense and we struggled. Then 2017 and 2018, when we had Day, the offense magically returned to form. Not a coincidence.
 

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You named a lot of teams I'm unfamiliar with in terms of coach, schedule and wins. The difference is familiarity with one team's accomplishments more than the 5 you listed.

I just said how many wins they had. The same as NW or 1 less. How can you not comprehend that?
 

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Title should read:

"Post Here if your basketball and baseball program are better than your football program"

Word.

Michigan hasn't been a "football school" for years.

Jim Harbaugh is a retarded fag.
 
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