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[sbb122]

So a monkey and a faggot walk into a bar....oh never mind...

 

[puckhead]

the 'faggot' part starts at about 5 min.
insightful and funny.

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[lasgop8]

That's because minority communities have a psychological need to reappropriate disparaging terms and give them a new connotation that way the next time someone calls them that slur out of malice, the word doesn't cut like a knife.

Did Meredith Brooks teach us nothing, folks?

So what your basically saying that you can call yourselves anything you want but if anybody else does thers is a community outrage. Does this reall make sense to you?

 

[quoipourquoi]

I'm not saying that this kind of speech should be allowed in a sport that is attempting to become a more player friendly enviroment but I am still very upset that hrutful words seem to be of greater importance then physical assault to the NHL and world in general.

Oh, I got you.

I think the league is cracking down on everything as it comes though. Hate speech wasn't in the forefront last month, but now that it's been used, it's the topic du jour.

I respectfully disagree. I think the best thing the league can do is keep it's distance. I don't see this as a "if you're not with me than you're my enemy" type of deal. This isn't all black or white, there are those who are indifferent, which I believe is the best stance when in the public eye.

I think most people are indifferent to most things, but the media is setup to make small outrage look bigger than it is - and in social issues, that's not always a bad thing.

The NHL has cracked down on hate speech in the past, and they must continue to do so moving forward. And like I said, Avery isn't just a hockey player. The vocal minority can make this look bad for everyone if there isn't even a slap on the wrist.

 

[awaz]

Oh, I got you.

I think the league is cracking down on everything as it comes though. Hate speech wasn't in the forefront last month, but now that it's been used, it's the topic du jour.



I think most people are indifferent to most things, but the media is setup to make small outrage look bigger than it is - and in social issues, that's not always a bad thing.

The NHL has cracked down on hate speech in the past, and they must continue to do so moving forward. And like I said, Avery isn't just a hockey player. The vocal minority can make this look bad for everyone if there isn't even a slap on the wrist.

thats a pretty good point.. regardless of whether or not most people think its a big deal or not, there are extremists in every group, and they are the ones that will make this a big deal, and could make the NHL look bad if there is no punishment

in that regard, they need to fine avery for his comments too.. you cant punish for gay slur and not a death threat, even if both were said without the intent that they could be taken (clarification: i'm sure avery didnt actually intend to kill giroux, just like there is a reasonable belief that simmonds said what he did with no thought to avery's political backings)

 

[The Q stache]

Real quickly, out curiosity what would the nhl do if avery called simmonds the n word

 

[quoipourquoi]

So what your basically saying that you can call yourselves anything you want but if anybody else does thers is a community outrage. Does this reall make sense to you?

Uh... yes. Bitch is a term of endearment for many women now, because women wanted to take the power away from men who would call them that word. And it totally worked. Not all women use it, but the ones who do have changed its meaning to them. They diffused hate speech, and it's awesome.

 

[quoipourquoi]

in that regard, they need to fine avery for his comments too.. you cant punish for gay slur and not a death threat, even if both were said without the intent that they could be taken (clarification: i'm sure avery didnt actually intend to kill giroux, just like there is a reasonable belief that simmonds said what he did with no thought to avery's political backings)

There's no death threat community though. I get your point, but no one really goes frantic over someone telling someone else they're going to get it (oh, Datsyuk, your time will come). Threats affect the threatened; hate speech affects everyone of that group. BET, Logo, WE... there's no cable channel for the receivers of death threats. :p

 

[lasgop8]

Uh... yes. Bitch is a term of endearment for many women now, because women wanted to take the power away from men who would call them that word. And it totally worked. Not all women use it, but the ones who do have changed its meaning to them. They diffused hate speech, and it's awesome.

You have got to be kidding me, are you trying to convince me or just your self that what you posted is true. around here you call a girl a bitch and it's on like donkey kong so no thiis thing a diffusing hate speech is just BS

 

[lasgop8]

Real quickly, out curiosity what would the nhl do if avery called simmonds the n word

Why isnt something being done about Avery saying he's going to kill Giroux and with all this crap about Simmons shouldnt be ignored but get everyone who said something on this occasion . where are all the bleeding hearts on that situation.

 

[awaz]

There's no death threat community though. I get your point, but no one really goes frantic over someone telling someone else they're going to get it (oh, Datsyuk, your time will come). Threats affect the threatened; hate speech affects everyone of that group. BET, Logo, WE... there's no cable channel for the receivers of death threats. :p

true, but there are enough flyers fans that would be up in arms

i just think it sends the wrong message if they punish for a gay slur and not for a 'death threat'

and lets be honest, avery deserves to be suspended for being a (is coward ok? ) anyway

 

[The Q stache]

Why isnt something being done about Avery saying he's going to kill Giroux and all this crap about Simmons. where all the bleeding hearts on that situation.

I said I thought he should be penalized everyone agreed so it stopped.

 

[quoipourquoi]

You have got to be kidding me, are you trying to convince me or just your self that what you posted is true. around here you call a girl a bitch and it's on like donkey kong so no thiis thing a diffusing hate speech is just BS

Oh, so you don't think hate speech can be diffused?

Then stop using the word faggot, please.

 

[SLY]

I call people gay and tell them I am going to kill them all the time... Should I be fined? This is retarded.

 

[awaz]

Real quickly, out curiosity what would the nhl do if avery called simmonds the n word

i see your point.. but thats just pointing out the awful double-standards that exist in this country.. what would the NHL have done if simmonds called avery a c-word























see.. you dont even know what c-word i meant.... it was cracker..

 

[lasgop8]

I said I thought he should be penalized everyone agreed so it stopped.

But i'm saying nobody should be penalized and drop the gloves if you dont like what the other player is saying and by the way everyone did not agree with both guys should be penalized.

 

[DChero]

The NHL has cracked down on hate speech in the past, and they must continue to do so moving forward. And like I said, Avery isn't just a hockey player. The vocal minority can make this look bad for everyone if there isn't even a slap on the wrist.

The thing is if the NHL takes action on this, then they must continue so moving forward. If they do nothing, the media will run off to another story the next day and the situation is dead.

The ignorance tactic isn't always the best, but this could turn a small incident into a game-changing incident. I'm all for equality and freedom of religion (which this does fall under), but at the end of the day, it's one guy trying to aggravate another guy during a game.

If Simmons makes a statement beyond what was meant just between them (Avery treats it as between them), then there's an issue that the league needs to handle. If this was meant to be statement like that, then he would have said it during an interview, social media update, or at a press conference.

 

[awaz]

I call people gay and tell them I am going to kill them all the time... Should I be fined? This is retarded.

you are no where close to a role model JS

 

[quoipourquoi]

Real quickly, out curiosity what would the nhl do if avery called simmonds the n word

Simon got three games, but that was forever ago. Nowadays, probably ten or so.

 

[filosofy29]

I call people gay and tell them I am going to kill them all the time... Should I be fined? This is retarded.

Yup, you can pay me for your attrocities.....




BTW, make out the check to 'Dead Faggot'.