Lions > Dolphins

[MiamiVice]

I have said the dolphins franchise is much like the lions since I moved here... betting against both teams makes you a lot of money.

 

[gandydancer]

Dolphins are actually negative 6 million right now... there is no way they can free up 20 mil with just 2-4 cuts. They have no salary cap space what so ever... the new GM is going to have to make cuts just to get under the cap.. let alone sign free agents.

Cameron Wake $7 mill

Jordan Cameron $5.5 mill. not enough production. Said Clay was his security blanket. It showed. Should have spent the money on Clay.

Quinton Couples $7.751 mill
Greg Jennings. $ 4 mill
Dion BUST Jordan $3.2 mill

The only one that might not happen is Jordan C. The others will. You do the math Vice...

 

[MiamiVice]

Cameron Wake $7 mill

Jordan Cameron $5.5 mill. not enough production. Said Clay was his security blanket. It showed. Should have spent the money on Clay.

Quinton Couples $7.751 mill
Greg Jennings. $ 4 mill
Dion BUST Jordan $3.2 mill

The only one that might not happen is Jordan C. The others will. You do the math Vice...

Dead Cap Hits - Cutting these players won't add up to $20 mil in space....

Jordan Cameron - Dead Cap 2 mil
Greg Jennings - Dead Cap 1.5 mil
Dion Jordan - Dead cap 3 mil
Cameron Wake - Dead cap 1.4 mil

Cutting all the players you list would give the dolphins about 12 mil in cap space... Not 20 mil.

 

[gandydancer]

Dead Cap Hits - Cutting these players won't add up to $20 mil in space....

Jordan Cameron - Dead Cap 2 mil
Greg Jennings - Dead Cap 1.5 mil
Dion Jordan - Dead cap 3 mil
Cameron Wake - Dead cap 1.4 mil

Cutting all the players you list would give the dolphins about 12 mil in cap space... Not 20 mil.

When you are counted as $9.8 against the cap and there is $1.4 in dead money, how much does a team save in cutting that player?

 

[gandydancer]

I actually did the math wrong on my original post.

Wake is $8.4 so my number was low.

You subtract the dead money from the cap hit to = savings...not dead money from savings.

 

[MiamiVice]

I actually did the math wrong on my original post.

Wake is $8.4 so my number was low.

You subtract the dead money from the cap hit to = savings...not dead money from savings.

i see the mistake i made. they can make cap space.. but to be honest... 20 mil is not going to do a ton. they have to sign their draft picks.. which is going to eat up about 7-8 million of that depending on where they end up in the draft. They really aren't going to be players on the free agent market for anything more than bit players.

 

[MiamiVice]

The Lions have 20 mil right now... and can free up a TON more if they cut guys like Mathis, Tulloch, Pettigrew, and Bell. The Lions will have somewhere around 35 mil to work with if they do that.. and that is without cutting calvin... heck.. they could redo his contract and save more. The dolphins do not have anywhere near the cap flexibility the lions do.

 

[gandydancer]

The Lions have 20 mil right now... and can free up a TON more if they cut guys like Mathis, Tulloch, Pettigrew, and Bell. The Lions will have somewhere around 35 mil to work with if they do that.. and that is without cutting calvin... heck.. they could redo his contract and save more. The dolphins do not have anywhere near the cap flexibility the lions do.

Not a huge FA crop aside from DB's. Wrong season to have all this money IMO

 

[MiamiVice]

Not a huge FA crop aside from DB's. Wrong season to have all this money IMO

You don't have to use it... Lions better served to focus on the draft and get a few mid tier guys for depth on the lines...

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Maybe the Lions can use the cap space to try and get the Texans to trade us JJ Watt. The guy has a broken hand and has 3 sacks, a forced fumble and a fumble recovery today. He is just a freak.

 

[Old Lion]

A LT in FA for sure. Glenn or Harris. I am done with our tackles.

 

[RobBase]

OF COURSE Miami just beat the Pats, giving the Broncos free reign to win home field.

 

[broncosmitty]

OF COURSE Miami just beat the Pats, giving the Broncos free reign to win home field.

And neither of us took them

 

[gandydancer]

A LT in FA for sure. Glenn or Harris. I am done with our tackles.

Raiders have space to sign Harris. See what they offer him?

 

[gandydancer]

OF COURSE Miami just beat the Pats, giving the Broncos free reign to win home field.

I said Miami might beat if they rested players, didn't think it would happen today even with injured players missing.

Suh was key in the victory. Truly.

 

[Stomp]

Cameron Wake $7 mill

Jordan Cameron $5.5 mill. not enough production. Said Clay was his security blanket. It showed. Should have spent the money on Clay.

Quinton Couples $7.751 mill
Greg Jennings. $ 4 mill
Dion BUST Jordan $3.2 mill

The only one that might not happen is Jordan C. The others will. You do the math Vice...

They also have 8 million in rollover cap space from this year

 

[gandydancer]

They also have 8 million in rollover cap space from this year

Don't get to complex on him...

 

[MiamiVice]

Don't get to complex on him...

When it comes down to it.. no matter what you guys want to say.. the dolphins will have one of the lowest amounts to work with in the entire NFL... there is nothing they can do about that. They can cut half their team if they want... They don't have the money to be players for any major free agent this year. they will need the money they have to sign their draft picks and fill roster holes.

 

[Stomp]

When it comes down to it.. no matter what you guys want to say.. the dolphins will have one of the lowest amounts to work with in the entire NFL... there is nothing they can do about that. They can cut half their team if they want... They don't have the money to be players for any major free agent this year.

aside from rollover and cuts Suhs base salary is huge the Dolphins can still kick the can by converting part of it to signing bonus for example converting 6 million to signing bonus would free up another 4.8 million is space(28.6 down to 23.8) next year. Early estimates for have the 2016 cap between 153 and 160 million

Cap could hit $160 million in 2016

If the Dolphins or Lions want a player the cap is easy enough to manipulate and luckily for the Dolphins and there fans Miami is a pretty appealing place to play.

 

[MiamiVice]

aside from rollover and cuts Suhs base salary is huge the Dolphins can still kick the can by converting part of it to signing bonus for example converting 6 million to signing bonus would free up another 4.8 million is space(28.6 down to 23.8) next year. Early estimates for have the 2016 cap between 153 and 160 million

Cap could hit $160 million in 2016

If the Dolphins or Lions want a player the cap is easy enough to manipulate and luckily for the Dolphins and there fans Miami is a pretty appealing place to play.

The projected cap is closer to 150 mil by most estimates i have seen.