Le'Veon Bell

[CaptainStubing]

Both are correct. I'm not sure if I understand it completely but here's my understanding of it:

Bell needs to report before their week 10 game THIS THURSDAY in order to sign & collect the remainder of the franchise tag for this season which is roughly $6.8mil. If he doesn't, then the tag is void and the Steelers have the option to place the tag on him AGAIN for the exact same price. Or not but the Steelers still hold the cards in that situation. Reporting now gives him more power in the offseason. I think the people saying he shouldn't report are saying that because the remainder of the contract is less in comparison to what he has already voided from holding out (~$8mil). And his FA contract in the offseason will exceed those amounts anyways with higher guarantees.

so, everyone saying he shouldn't report are just assuming the Steelers aren't going to tag him again?

What are the chances that the Steelers would tag him again? I don't see any reason they would, unless they just want to screw him?

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

so, everyone saying he shouldn't report are just assuming the Steelers aren't going to tag him again?

What are the chances that the Steelers would tag him again? I don't see any reason they would, unless they just want to screw him?

I guess so.

I don't see it happening. Steelers misplayed their hand as well with holding onto his rights and not being more aggressive with a trade. But then again Bell was playing right into their hand by rolling over nearly $8mil into their cap next year (if he reports this week). Their wasn't any pressure to move him. But given the circumstances of how everything played out, I don't think the Steelers will want to keep his name in any discussion next year. Time to wash their hands clean of him and move the hell on. He's an unnecessary distraction. At this point Colbert just wants to get some sort of value from letting him walk, which is the comp pick. Not sure how they can get that at this point. Might have to rescind the tag? A lot of it is unclear to me at this point.

@Superbelt or @ATL96Steeler seem to know more about it than I do.

 

[CaptainStubing]

I guess so.

I don't see it happening. Steelers misplayed their hand as well with holding onto his rights and not being more aggressive with a trade. But then again Bell was playing right into their hand by rolling over nearly $8mil into their cap next year. Their wasn't any pressure to move him. But given the circumstances of how everything played out, I don't think the Steelers will want to keep his name in any discussion next year. Time to wash their hands clean of him and move the hell on. He's an unnecessary distraction. At this point Colbert just wants to get some sort of value from letting him walk, which is the comp pick for his departure. Not sure how they can get that at this point. Might have to rescind the tag? A lot of it is unclear to me at this point.

@Superbelt seems to know more about it than I do.

it's just weird that all along, everyone was saying he was going to HAVE to report by a certain date and now everyone is like, "it would be dumb for him to report at all". I still don't know what changed in the whole scenario that has made everyone do a complete 180.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

it's just weird that all along, everyone was saying he was going to HAVE to report by a certain date and now everyone is like, "it would be dumb for him to report at all". I still don't know what changed in the whole scenario that has made everyone do a complete 180.

I think both were always an option, just the latter was less discussed because everyone was expecting him to fold his cards before this point in time.

Seeing the amassed money he left on the table made everyone realize it more & more.

 

[CaptainStubing]

I think both were always an option, just the latter was less discussed because everyone was expecting him to fold his cards before this point in time.

Seeing the amassed money he left on the table made everyone realize it more & more.

ah, ok .... that makes sense

 

[Maximus Rex]

it's just weird that all along, everyone was saying he was going to HAVE to report by a certain date and now everyone is like, "it would be dumb for him to report at all". I still don't know what changed in the whole scenario that has made everyone do a complete 180.

There were erroneous reports out there earlier that he had to show by week 10 or whatever to get credit for the season for free agency purposes. Those reports were long, because he's already been in the league long enough and doesn't need to "accrue" another season. That's probably what's confusing you.

 

[Superbelt]

I guess so.

I don't see it happening. Steelers misplayed their hand as well with holding onto his rights and not being more aggressive with a trade. But then again Bell was playing right into their hand by rolling over nearly $8mil into their cap next year (if he reports this week). Their wasn't any pressure to move him. But given the circumstances of how everything played out, I don't think the Steelers will want to keep his name in any discussion next year. Time to wash their hands clean of him and move the hell on. He's an unnecessary distraction. At this point Colbert just wants to get some sort of value from letting him walk, which is the comp pick. Not sure how they can get that at this point. Might have to rescind the tag? A lot of it is unclear to me at this point.

@Superbelt or @ATL96Steeler seem to know more about it than I do.

In my opinion of what they might do:

They can franchise him again, even if he comes in under the top 5 salaries in the league. They don't have to actually allocate that money until he signs his tender, which he won't do.

So they hold his rights, and immediately shop him around to interested teams. Bell would have input on this, because he would want to choose the team, and would negotiate a salary before he would sign and trade away.

It's in the Steelers best interest, if they think they can get a 3rd or better in next years draft to do this.

If no trade could be had, they can always rescind the tag and let Bell walk. But there isn't much risk of actually paying him any money.

 

[Maximus Rex]

so, everyone saying he shouldn't report are just assuming the Steelers aren't going to tag him again?

What are the chances that the Steelers would tag him again? I don't see any reason they would, unless they just want to screw him?

Here's what I was talking about - last paragraph of this story.

Sources: Door closing for Le'Veon Bell return

 

[Superbelt]

it's just weird that all along, everyone was saying he was going to HAVE to report by a certain date and now everyone is like, "it would be dumb for him to report at all". I still don't know what changed in the whole scenario that has made everyone do a complete 180.

He HAS to report by mid November for this tag to toll. If he doesn't, his tag doesn't bump a level, and the Steelers can franchise him at about 15 million again, rather than the top 5 salaries in the league of $23 million +

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

https://t.co/Kc2jNZeUsh

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

In my opinion of what they might do:

They can franchise him again, even if he comes in under the top 5 salaries in the league. They don't have to actually allocate that money until he signs his tender, which he won't do.

So they hold his rights, and immediately shop him around to interested teams. Bell would have input on this, because he would want to choose the team, and would negotiate a salary before he would sign and trade away.

It's in the Steelers best interest, if they think they can get a 3rd or better in next years draft to do this.

If no trade could be had, they can always rescind the tag and let Bell walk. But there isn't much risk of actually paying him any money.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

@CaptainStubing

answers:
Le'Veon Bell saga: How he gets to free agency, tag implications and more

 

[Superbelt]

That's Kaboly's opinion.

There will be a fight over whether he accrued a season, or not.

If Le’Veon Bell doesn’t show, a re-tag by the Steelers could spark a CBA fight

Bell was tagged, but if he doesn't sign in time, or at all, he won't accrue a season, IMO. But there will be a vicious fight over that designation.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Leave it to Me'Veon to stir up the pot with social media and then do nothing... What an asshole

 

[Superbelt]

At any rate, if he never signs, the Stillers will have a bonus $14.5 million in their cap to help afford another Bell tag at $25 million. No sweat. They aren't players in the first round of free agency, anyway. They have the time.

And then they can trade him away.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

That's Kaboly's opinion.

There will be a fight over whether he accrued a season, or not.

If Le’Veon Bell doesn’t show, a re-tag by the Steelers could spark a CBA fight

Bell was tagged, but if he doesn't sign in time, or at all, he won't accrue a season, IMO. But there will be a vicious fight over that designation.

Interesting. That'll really get things murky.

 

[Mangler]

Steelers...just flush this turd!

 

[cincygrad]

Here's the issue though.... I think his value is low across the league. While I can imagine a team (it only takes one) giving him a free agent deal, I can't imagine them wanting to give up a pick for him. There is just too much risk with him right now and the reward seems much lower than originally thought (given Conner's performance).

 

[Psych-Ward]

Both are correct. I'm not sure if I understand it completely but here's my understanding of it:

Bell needs to report before their week 10 game THIS THURSDAY in order to sign & collect the remainder of the franchise tag for this season which is roughly $6.8mil. If he doesn't, then the tag is void and the Steelers have the option to place the tag on him AGAIN for the exact same price. Or not but the Steelers still hold the cards in that situation. Reporting now gives him more power in the offseason. I think the people saying he shouldn't report are saying that because the remainder of the contract is less in comparison to what he has already voided from holding out (~$8mil). And his FA contract in the offseason will exceed those amounts anyways with higher guarantees.

Face my man.....

He has until next Tuesday to show up.
But beings it is a short week there was thought he might show up to cheat his two week roster restriction thing......

 

[Psych-Ward]

I guess so.

I don't see it happening. Steelers misplayed their hand as well with holding onto his rights and not being more aggressive with a trade. But then again Bell was playing right into their hand by rolling over nearly $8mil into their cap next year (if he reports this week). Their wasn't any pressure to move him. But given the circumstances of how everything played out, I don't think the Steelers will want to keep his name in any discussion next year. Time to wash their hands clean of him and move the hell on. He's an unnecessary distraction. At this point Colbert just wants to get some sort of value from letting him walk, which is the comp pick. Not sure how they can get that at this point. Might have to rescind the tag? A lot of it is unclear to me at this point.

@Superbelt or @ATL96Steeler seem to know more about it than I do.

Every dime he does NOT collect this year makes what they tag him at next year less and less.