LeBron James, Kawhi Leonard, and the Perpetual Joke NBA Free Agency Has Become

[flyerhawk]

Works just fine. Analysis for a Giannis/Whiteside straight-up deal is spot on...NBA Trade Machine - ESPN

Some of you simply have a hard time admitting that this "bored" is my bitch...Expecting this to be fouled out in 3-2-1...

The trade machine works just fine. The Hollinger projections are deeply flawed. Either you really think that the Hollinger projects are legit and the Bucks would only lost 2 wins by trading Giannis or Whiteside or you are just weakly trolling. Neither is a good look.

 

[DJ Fieri]

I didn't even get pass this line.

How would trading for a top 5 NBA player for a washed up 3 that's well overpaid for the next 2 years be a good thing?

For a self-proclaimed genius, you sure do say some dumb shit.

It's because he is dumb.

 

[DrewScott]

Quick question....I don't know all the contract legalities as well as most of you on here.

If Kahwi refuses to play for the Spurs this season, are they still obligated to pay him?

And also, if team doctors say a player is ready to go and he still says he's not ready, can the team force the player to play or start to withold money?

You can see where I'm going with this

 

[The Q]

Quick question....I don't know all the contract legalities as well as most of you on here.

If Kahwi refuses to play for the Spurs this season, are they still obligated to pay him?

And also, if team doctors say a player is ready to go and he still says he's not ready, can the team force the player to play or start to withold money?

You can see where I'm going with this

The answer to #1 is no. And he wouldn't accrue his year of service to hit FA.

The answer to the 2nd one I'm guessing is no because we already had that with Kawhi this year.

But we also had the inverse with Chris Bosh...so i have no idea.

 

[GNG]

There was once a time in NBA history when free agency was strictly about the business of contract details and with whatever team the said player wished to spend his career with. Then, in 2010 - LeBron James happened, and this whole spectacle that is NBA free agency had become much more than that as a result. It has become more about big brands, big egos, big markets, and player collusion. Because of LeBron James.

When LeBron left Cleveland for the first time to form a superteam in Miami, it became acceptable for these self-proclaimed "star" players to throw their teammates, their coaches (looking at you, Kawhi Leonard), and even their ownership under the microscope. Because of LeBron James. It has come to be a regular occurrence in the NBA throughout this decade. Because of LeBron James.

In the current NBA, there are plenty of teams that are more well-managed than the Lakers. There were several teams more deserving of LeBron's services. But, in the end - The big market and his big business ventures were ultimately the deciding factor in his free agency this time around. At least Art Modell only left Cleveland once, and it is this that is the very reason why we as a culture keep him out of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Shame on LeBron James.

Shame on these self-righteous NBA "stars".

Now, on to my Kawhi Leonard trade idea...

San Antonio receives - Kent Bazemore, DeMarre Carroll, and a future 2022 second round draft pick (from Atlanta)

Atlanta receives - Kawhi Leonard

Brooklyn receives - Danny Green

From San Antonio's perspective: The Spurs need to be able to prove the point to Kawhi that beggars can't be choosers by forcing him to spend a year of his prime in a hapless situation in Atlanta - A team that currently is almost blatantly tanking. It is not that Bazemore is a bad player - He did shoot a career-high 39.4 percent from three this past season - It's simply a matter of him not being worth his contract. And who knows, maybe Pop could make a diamond in the rough out of him. Carroll would give San Antonio a designated LeBron defender for the upcoming season.

From Atlanta's perspective: For the Hawks, this deal would provide a bargaining opportunity. Atlanta would be off the hook for the final two years of Bazemore's contract while surrendering only a second round pick well down the road. While it is highly unlikely that Kawhi Leonard commits to them long-term, they would be given the opportunity to flip him at next February's trade deadline for more assets moving forward.

From Brooklyn's perspective: Simple salary dump. Green will earn more than $5 million less than DeMarre Carroll in the final year of their respective deals, and would instantly become a buyout candidate upon completion of this proposed deal.

LeBron James, Kawhi Leonard, and the Perpetual Joke NBA Free Agency Has Become

Excellent post.

 

[GNG]

hurricane must have been pretty damn high when he made this thread.

You are usually high whenever you post so it all balances out.

 

[GNG]

It wasn't really a serious idea, just something I threw out there just so people can stop talking about Kawhi.

My point to you is, though - The Spurs need to stop living in the past with Danny Green. Seriously, what is so great about him at this stage??? Wrong side of age 30, FG percentage in the consistently in the 30's, time to move on.

You think outside the box unlike many folks here.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

And LOL Apparently the Spurs improve by three games according to Hollinger's analysis with the trade machine...NBA Trade Machine - ESPN

I learned long before I joined the CBS boards or this one that Hollinger's analysis, ratings and etc are simply fantasy that never becomes reality. The Trade Machine is equally worthless and has zero value in the real world. Just because they a trade works - does not mean any team in their right mind would do it. I think you already know this so quit trolling everyone already - it's gotten old

 

[tlance]

I learned long before I joined the CBS boards or this one that Hollinger's analysis, ratings and etc are simply fantasy that never becomes reality. The Trade Machine is equally worthless and has zero value in the real world. Just because they a trade works - does not mean any team in their right mind would do it. I think you already know this so quit trolling everyone already - it's gotten old

All the trade machine does is make sure the salaries moving all fit under the cap.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

All the trade machine does is make sure the salaries moving all fit under the cap.

Even that is flawed because in the prior CBA - they had trade exceptions which a team could use to complete a trade and basically it allowed a team to dump salary for nothing. Not sure if they still have that under the trade exception - but saying that "A trade worked in the trade machine" - Means absolutely nothing to me - ZERO CREDIBILITY and I think Cane already knows that - All he is doing is farting in everyone's face and laughing about it

 

[trojanfan12]

Pop could trade Kawhi straight up for Luol Deng and still look like a genius, but you're still missing the point.

I would love for him to show that kind of genius.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

I would love for him to show that kind of genius.

You and me both - but um, don't hold your breath - Hurricane is most likely drunk

 

[trojanfan12]

What exactly is wrong with players taking some control of their lives and careers?

Because players having control means the really good ones will never choose to go to Indy or Denver and the ones that are drafted or traded there, will get the hell out at their earliest opportunity.

 

[trojanfan12]

My trade proposal was a last resort option in the event other teams don't step up their offers and if Kawhi's relationship with the team becomes so bad that he absolutely has to go.

I think tlance gave all of the answer that's needed here:

There is nothing to add. Your proposal isn't a last resort option. It isn't an option at all because it is stupid. There is absolutely nothing appealing about that trade idea for the Spurs. Nothing.

Now stop trying to justify it. It was a terrible post.

 

[trojanfan12]

Works just fine. Analysis for a Giannis/Whiteside straight-up deal is spot on...NBA Trade Machine - ESPN

Holy Shit!! Did Hurricane just give us a preview of his next HAWT trade idea?

 

[trojanfan12]

twas a joke, numbfuck.

It's either numbnuts or dumbfuck.

No one says numbfuck.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

Pop could straight up trade Deng for Kawhi and that's a good thing.

Holy. Fuck. I've heard it all now.

San Antonio would riot if that happened.

I think this year might be Pop's last year with the Spurs and may be planning to retire - No way in hell he would do that because everyone would think he was sticking it to the Spurs just to be mean - The minimum trade would be
Leonard + Gasol for Ingram, Kuzma and Deng + some draft picks and at this point - I have heard that LeBron is high on these players and Lonzo Ball - so the Spurs may have over-played their hand. It's either that or they are really convinced they still have plenty of time to make a stupid trade and will wait and see what happens. Personally - I think they are smart to wait and see.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

It's either numbnuts or dumbfuck.

No one says numbfuck.

I didn't know Numb could fuck? If he is numb - How could he do that?

 

[trojanfan12]

I didn't know Numb could fuck? If he is numb - How could he do that?

Viagra?

 

[The Q]

Because players having control means the really good ones will never choose to go to Indy or Denver and the ones that are drafted or traded there, will get the hell out at their earliest opportunity.

Then don’t have franchises there.

Freaking okc just kept Paul George. Kyle Lowry willingly chose to stay in Canada. Cana-freaking-da

Good franchises will keep good players