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Talk about an air show. Both sides demonstrated what a really good passing game looks like. The Rams are clearly the class of the conference, if not the entire league. If ours could even meekly resemble how those two offenses performed, we'd be in the playoffs without question, especially with our defense. Prior to the start of the season, I thought we had the second best defense in the division. When we traded for Mack, I still thought it remained only the second best, but drew a lot closer to Minny than previously. Now I'm convinced we have without question the best D in the division and the NFC for that matter. And I think we could give the Jags a run for the money for the best defense in the NFL. But it will only get us so far if the offense doesn't do its part.
 

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The D needs to do it against a great Offense for me to state they are the best.

The 2nd half of the GB game still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
 

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Minnesota's D looks downright subpar right now. I think the Griffin situation is really hurting them.

They may not be as tough as originally thought. However, there's still 3/4 of their season left and I expect them to at least semi bounce back.
 

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The D needs to do it against a great Offense for me to state they are the best.

The 2nd half of the GB game still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

There's nothing about our consistent dominance that should give a reason to doubt. The Green Bay game sucked, but there was a lot of flukey shit with that too. Mack and Smith also only played very limited in that game, if you remember.
 

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Minnesota's D looks downright subpar right now. I think the Griffin situation is really hurting them.

They may not be as tough as originally thought. However, there's still 3/4 of their season left and I expect them to at least semi bounce back.
Agreed on the remainder of the season. Any team, especially one that has been as good as Minny has been the past few years, can always get their act together and go on a nasty run. But there's something about what I've seen from them this year so far that tells me they never quite recovered from that NFC Finals drubbing they received from Philly last year. At least defensively they haven't. Championship defenses don't give up 27.5 pts per game. Yes, it's still too early to completely write their D off, but no way do I now think theirs is better than ours. No way.
 

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There's nothing about our consistent dominance that should give a reason to doubt. The Green Bay game sucked, but there was a lot of flukey shit with that too. Mack and Smith also only played very limited in that game, if you remember.


Bears have a good D, maybe the best in the league. Mack is the DMVP by a mile if it were decided today.

With that said, they have played 2 poor offenses and one good offense that shredded them in the 2nd half. A lot went wrong in the 2nd half, and Mack and Smith were behind schedule, as you mentioned, but It's hard to anoint much of anything after 3 weeks.

Shut Tampa down on Sunday, and I'll have more to say en sech
 

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Bears have a good D, maybe the best in the league. Mack is the DMVP by a mile if it were decided today.

With that said, they have played 2 poor offenses and one good offense that shredded them in the 2nd half. A lot went wrong in the 2nd half, and Mack and Smith were behind schedule, as you mentioned, but It's hard to anoint much of anything after 3 weeks.

Shut Tampa down on Sunday, and I'll have more to say en sech

All of the doom and gloom over Tolliver starting from the media and other posters... It's making all your guys anxiety rub off on me. I'm feeling uneasy about it just from hearing constantly about what a "big deal" it is vs TB.

I guess I just think our safety play and pass rush has been so good, that we can absorb it. Everyone is freaking me out, though. lol

EDIT: I wouldn't say Seattle has a "poor" offense.
 

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Bears have a good D, maybe the best in the league. Mack is the DMVP by a mile if it were decided today.

With that said, they have played 2 poor offenses and one good offense that shredded them in the 2nd half. A lot went wrong in the 2nd half, and Mack and Smith were behind schedule, as you mentioned, but It's hard to anoint much of anything after 3 weeks.

Shut Tampa down on Sunday, and I'll have more to say en sech

Hopefully the hottest qb in the league is still starting...…...Cause I too want to see how well our defense can be...…….

And as of last nights game,I`m very surprised at LAs defense letting Cousins do that to them...…….I thought LA has/had the best d in the league,even better than Jax`s……..
Its gonna be interesting this year watching our defense play vs Brady,Rodgers,Cousins twice and Goff...…...Those games will tell the tale of our d this year,
 

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Hopefully the hottest qb in the league is still starting...…...Cause I too want to see how well our defense can be...…….

And as of last nights game,I`m very surprised at LAs defense letting Cousins do that to them...…….I thought LA has/had the best d in the league,even better than Jax`s……..
Its gonna be interesting this year watching our defense play vs Brady,Rodgers,Cousins twice and Goff...…...Those games will tell the tale of our d this year,


Most brutal schedule in the league IMO.


It was brutal BEFORE the likes of Tampa and Miami surprised everyone a bit.
 

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Starting to wonder if the Vikings D isn't brutally overrated; and the division at large is actually wide open. We will see soon enough.
 

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Hopefully the hottest qb in the league is still starting...…...Cause I too want to see how well our defense can be...…….

And as of last nights game,I`m very surprised at LAs defense letting Cousins do that to them...…….I thought LA has/had the best d in the league,even better than Jax`s……..
Its gonna be interesting this year watching our defense play vs Brady,Rodgers,Cousins twice and Goff...…...Those games will tell the tale of our d this year,
Rams LB's/Edgerushers are legit terrible, man. They have a couple injuries (Talib is already out for a while) and that D is gonna be pretty ungood. It is very hard to make a living if your edgerushers blow. That offense can only be stopped by Jared Goff though.
 

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Rams LB's/Edgerushers are legit terrible, man. They have a couple injuries (Talib is already out for a while) and that D is gonna be pretty ungood. It is very hard to make a living if your edgerushers blow. That offense can only be stopped by Jared Goff though.
I think our offense matches up well with their defense. Our interior line is very strong. If Daniels steps in and plays well, I think they will be more than capable of handling their DTs. Jordan Howard can punish their LBs. their sexondary is very good, but without Talib, it starts to create more holes.
 

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I think our offense matches up well with their defense. Our interior line is very strong. If Daniels steps in and plays well, I think they will be more than capable of handling their DTs. Jordan Howard can punish their LBs. their sexondary is very good, but without Talib, it starts to create more holes.

Howards been off to a not so good start...………..I think our run blocking needs to get better,and I kinda blame that on the d-line keying on our Howard cause of Trubiskys play.
But then again,we have the same qb as last season and Howard ran wild...….So I guess I :noidea:…………..
 

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Howards been off to a not so good start...………..I think our run blocking needs to get better,and I kinda blame that on the d-line keying on our Howard cause of Trubiskys play.
But then again,we have the same qb as last season and Howard ran wild...….So I guess I :noidea:…………..

I remember when everyone was saying Howard was going to lead the league in rushing TDs back in preseason. To which i lol'd. Good times. I guess I could go back and look up who all those idiots were but what's the point, idiots will remain idiots.

Note: Howard is tied dead last in the league in TDs but it's still early lol.
 

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I remember when everyone was saying Howard was going to lead the league in rushing TDs back in preseason. To which i lol'd. Good times. I guess I could go back and look up who all those idiots were but what's the point, idiots will remain idiots.

Note: Howard is tied dead last in the league in TDs but it's still early lol.

He's not doing well,but as I said,I believe it's lack of qb play and the defenses want to see Trubisky beat them,not Howard........
 

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Rams LB's/Edgerushers are legit terrible, man. They have a couple injuries (Talib is already out for a while) and that D is gonna be pretty ungood. It is very hard to make a living if your edgerushers blow. That offense can only be stopped by Jared Goff though.

To think they were negotiating a deal for Mack... It would have taken some serious cap maneuvering - but it's scary to think about.
 

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To think they were negotiating a deal for Mack... It would have taken some serious cap maneuvering - but it's scary to think about.
Their plan was to trade him after this season.
 

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He's not doing well,but as I said,I believe it's lack of qb play and the defenses want to see Trubisky beat them,not Howard........

As opposed to last year when Glennon was running the team? Everyone was quick to point out how even with Glennon, Howard was 3rd in the league in TDs. Now you're saying it's because of Trubisky, Howard isn't running well. You can't have it both ways.
 
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