Lane Kiffin to bama

[trojanfight]

tough to call about this hire...really will depend on quality of quarterbacks...I know they have some incoming ones that are supposed to be pretty good. 2015 ricky town could be a great one....not so sure he sticks commitment to bama tho.

overall thought offense wasn't the problem with team. but when aj mcarron couldn't ride his running backs to victories that's when he made mistakes.

I don't know enough about bama to criticize but I think it comes down to does saban handle the offense? how much control did prior OC have? if hes 100 % play caller well that could either be really good or really bad...I expect he will have short leash though... realistically he only has to put up great passing numbers 2 or 3 times a year...most teams in sec vs bama they could hand ball off every play and still win.

 

[Camfantasy]

 

[4down20]

lel...This should be Bammers new avy.

I'm gonna use it for awhile.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

Just curious that Coach Saben invited Kiffin to review his offence back in early December. Alabama loses their final two games......and kiffin IS HIRED?????I get it; Alabama wants to give the rest of the SEC a chance to do well.

Everyone except florida, we dont want to sink that low

 

[RobToxin]

I'm gonna use it for awhile.

That's awesome!

 

[bocomo007]

LANE KIFFIN must have some sort of hypnotic spell-like ability.


He builds his "offensive genius" by having a highly recruited NFL top 10 QB pick winner throw to an NFL first round pick or hand off to the #1 NFL pick. And if he screwed up, 11 of the best defenders in the country would get him the ball right back.


Anyone with a pulse, could have succeeded under those conditions.
He has parlayed that into gig after gig afer gig after gig......all of them high profile


YET HE FAILS (or quits) EVERYWHERE. HE embarrasses his employers and employees.
Yet, he still keeps getting the jobs.


Meanwhile, there are hard working talented (usually minority) coaches who cannot get a sniff of a job despite 10000 times the success of Kiffin with a fraction of the arrogance and douchebaggery.

 

[bocomo007]

I'm gonna use it for awhile.

 

[podsox]

how good of an offensive coordinator is he? i watched him fuck up usc's offense badly when they had weapons all over the place. he ran wr screen after wr screen and short passes with lee, woods, and a stud tight end. barkley was about as experienced qb as u could find at the time too

 

[4down20]

 

[4down20]

 

[RobToxin]

These gifs are awesome!

 

[BadMotoWeazal]

This one is the bomb.....

 

[trojanfan12]

how good of an offensive coordinator is he? i watched him fuck up usc's offense badly when they had weapons all over the place. he ran wr screen after wr screen and short passes with lee, woods, and a stud tight end. barkley was about as experienced qb as u could find at the time too

When he was only USC's OC, he did really well and it's how he made his name. When he tried doing all of the playcalling AND being the HC, the wheels eventually came off.

In his first 2 seasons as HC and calling the plays, he did fine. The offense was real good and USC went 10-2 in his 2nd season. About halfway through his 3rd season, the defense fell apart. The offense still performed well, but I think as the season wore on, he concentrated on trying to salvage a Heisman for Barkley or Lee.

This past season, he took too long to name a starter, didn't trust Kessler once he named him starter and the offense became very predictable. I had said before the season that he needed to give up the playcalling and that was proven correct when he was fired and Orgeron handed those duties to Helton. The improvement in our offense was immediate.

At 'Bama, he will basically have the same duties that he had under Pete Carroll at USC. If there is a coach in cfb who has shown that his hires shouldn't be questioned, it's Saban.

 

[Codaxx]

When he was only USC's OC, he did really well and it's how he made his name. When he tried doing all of the playcalling AND being the HC, the wheels eventually came off.

In his first 2 seasons as HC and calling the plays, he did fine. The offense was real good and USC went 10-2 in his 2nd season. About halfway through his 3rd season, the defense fell apart. The offense still performed well, but I think as the season wore on, he concentrated on trying to salvage a Heisman for Barkley or Lee.

This past season, he took too long to name a starter, didn't trust Kessler once he named him starter and the offense became very predictable. I had said before the season that he needed to give up the playcalling and that was proven correct when he was fired and Orgeron handed those duties to Helton. The improvement in our offense was immediate.

At 'Bama, he will basically have the same duties that he had under Pete Carroll at USC. If there is a coach in cfb who has shown that his hires shouldn't be questioned, it's Saban.

He goes through a lot of assistants. I don't think Saban is a genius picking coaches. I think he has such a handle on the process that the individual coaches have a smaller effect on the whole than at other places.

 

[trojanfan12]

He goes through a lot of assistants. I don't think Saban is a genius picking coaches. I think he has such a handle on the process that the individual coaches have a smaller effect on the whole than at other places.

Pete Carroll went through a lot of assistants too. I don't follow 'Bama that closely, so I don't know if it's for the same reason, but USC's success led to Coordinator and HC opportunities for his assistants. PC actually took pride in that. I'd assume that, for the most part, it's the same with Saban and his assistants.

 

[Codaxx]

Pete Carroll went through a lot of assistants too. I don't follow 'Bama that closely, so I don't know if it's for the same reason, but USC's success led to Coordinator and HC opportunities for his assistants. PC actually took pride in that. I'd assume that, for the most part, it's the same with Saban and his assistants.

I just remember his old OC getting a job (at CSU). I don't remember a lot of Saban's coaches getting HC jobs

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

I just remember his old OC getting a job (at CSU). I don't remember a lot of Saban's coaches getting HC jobs

Most of the coaches he has lost have been upgrade positions for them. We rarely have a coach leave for the same position elsewhere as we can keep them with a raise(if they are worth the raise and Saban wants them to stay) Losing our OC was a mutual decision, he wanted to go and Saban wanted him gone. This will be a good thing(keep telling myself that in hope). I trust Saban to make the right choices and so far he has not let us down.

 

[potzer25]

Assistant coach ratings are like recruit ratings: they get atleast a 1 star bump if Bama picks them.

 

[BadMotoWeazal]

Assistant coach ratings are like recruit ratings: they get atleast a 1 star bump if Bama picks them.

Well yeah.....

 

[Wild Turkey]

First of all I don't know what to think of this Kiffin hire. It could go either way but it was nice that we made a change. I feared we would be stuck with Nuss for another two years, or until he fell into a HC job. He isn't terrible, but he is far from great. He is about a C+ or B-. About all he knows how to do is stare down at a sheet and make sure he is called an equal amount of passing and running plays. He doesn't know how to take advantage of what a defense is giving him, their weaknesses in units (Dline, secondary, etc), he doesn't know how to ride a hot hand.

Ive been saying this since early last year where I was in the minority, but gradually more Alabama fans are catching on. The worst of his games came against TAMU in 2012, LSU in 2012, UGA in 2012, and Auburn in 2013. If you are result oriented thinker instead of a process oriented thinker then you wont understand the problem.

Some of his major problems was running the ball way too much into Auburn's best attribute their Dline, not running the ball enough vs UGA and LSU when we were gashing them in 2012 but instead being balanced for the sake of being balanced. Its not that he didn't favor the run more, its that he couldn't figure out when to use it heavily and when to be more balanced depending on the opponent and what was working.

Also we had 2 major weapons in OJ Howard and RB Henry that were grossly utilized this season. As well as our WR routes having enough built in defensive reads and the WRs having a better understanding of how to work into position to help the QB when they were in trouble.

As a whole our offensive gains a lot of pretty stats but we were going to do that no matter what. Our Oline wasn't as dominant as last year but it was still very adequate. We had a great college QB, solid RBs, and a very talented and deep WR corp as well as some blocking TEs and FB to round out a veteran and complex offense. No matter what he called he was going to have success against any team that wasn't top notch, and still good success against those that were. Our O was that talented.

It will be interesting to see what he can do with a lesser talented team in Michigan. It should still be a nice upgrade for them. Going from a D- to a C+ is still a good upgrade, especially when you consider that a C+ in the SEC is more like a B+ in the Big 10-12.

Kiffin comes in with some issues that we didn't have before but still a lot of talent on board. He will have the challenge of developing a QB. Figuring out what to do with the 3 talented but different styled backs. And how to use all the resources at WR. Ultimately the QB and the OLine will make him look successful as far as stat go. And lets face it, your average football fan is a stat idiot and not a process oriented recognizer of talent. I will be happy with him as long as he knows how to put the Offense it the right call to be successful. That means riding a hot hand, using all the talent available, and most of all taking advantage of the defenses weaknesses no matter if that means we stay balanced or 65-35.

Damn they should've hired this guy he is a football genius. Fire Saban and hire BamaInHouston this must happen!