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Pastafazul

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lol

You're delusional if you think that article backs up anything you said.

It proves that what everyone else has been telling you is correct. The Knicks are a horribly run franchise that has absolutely no clue what the hell they're doing.

Your delusional owner and a lot of your delusional fans thought you guys were getting KD and Kyrie. Then KD said he never even considered the Knicks and called them irrelevant.

Until Dolan sells the team or hires people who actually have at least some clue on how to build a team and stays the hell out of their way, you're going to keep getting what you've been getting for years now.

Of course, you'll keep blaming whoever the coach is and thinking that will fix the team.

I'm starting to think you might actually be Dolan.
Hmmmm
 

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And furthermore, and I reiterate I don’t like the man, but how can you possibly blame Dolan for how the draft is put together and the available talent there is.

Case And Point , RJ Barret, personally I think he’s terrible. But the basketball world had him what , 6th best player in world at time?
 

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And furthermore, and I reiterate I don’t like the man, but how can you possibly blame Dolan for how the draft is put together and the available talent there is.

Case And Point , RJ Barret, personally I think he’s terrible. But the basketball world had him what , 6th best player in world at time?

"but how can you possibly blame Dolan"


Easy. He's the owner. Everything goes through him first. And his franchise has been a dumpster fire this century.

Since the 2000-01 season

-6 playoff trips (one trip the last ten seasons)

-17 losing seasons

-lost 50 games 8 times

-lost 60 games twice

-15 different coaches
 

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And furthermore, and I reiterate I don’t like the man, but how can you possibly blame Dolan for how the draft is put together and the available talent there is.

Case And Point , RJ Barret, personally I think he’s terrible. But the basketball world had him what , 6th best player in world at time?

Well, that is exactly it.

How many times have the Knicks bottomed out and given themselves a chance at a true rebuild with multiple seasons to try to hit a high lotto pick?

They haven’t done that.

They have been bad, sure. But then they use cap space on good, not great players like Julius Randle and Brunson.

They win between 35 and 45 games most years with no real chance to contend and no likely chance to draft that superstar they need.

And a free agent superstar isn’t signing there because they can’t trust management to build a winner around him.

That is a very poor organizational plan.
 

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Again, if a superstar signed to play here , immediate contender, yes or no?


What are superstars motivated by most money, fans, arena?

Where is a superstar going to make more money in endorsements?
 

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And another thing , you’re a billionaire, Dolan, ton of assets, he luvs his music .

Who the hell knows for sure he oversees everything? He ain’t losin a dime being an owner of the Knicks that’s for sure . seats are filled every home game. Corporate seats out the gazoo… advertisements bada bing.

The Knicks could have stayed with the same personnel forever and not given a shit. But they didn’t, they tried and have failed.

Maybe superstars just don’t like Dolan , the person. Not the organization.
 

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Again, if a superstar signed to play here , immediate contender, yes or no?


What are superstars motivated by most money, fans, arena?

Where is a superstar going to make more money in endorsements?

They can’t.

There is no cap space to sign a superstar. So it is moot.

Those things are important, yes. Winning culture matters more.

There are cities with all those things + culture the star isn’t picking NY.

And because they waste cap space on mediocre players, they are rarely in position to sign a superstar where everything has lined up including a promising core with cap space.
 

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They can’t.

There is no cap space to sign a superstar. So it is moot.

Those things are important, yes. Winning culture matters more.

There are cities with all those things + culture the star isn’t picking NY.

And because they waste cap space on mediocre players, they are rarely in position to sign a superstar where everything has lined up including a promising core with cap space.
Yep...there's a fair number of "star" & even some "superstar" players who'd love to play in NYC and call MSG their home...but unfortunately many of them have seen Dolan's blueprint and how the franchise has been run by him, but also because of who he is, so they basically tell their agents to find another situation for them.
It's been the case for a long time now. The thing is though, Knicks fans are a rabid bunch and devoted to their team no matter what.
Dolan is a complacent boob who knows they'll never suffer from poor ticket sales as a result of the Knicks die hard fan base.
I for one have been praying, wishing, & hoping he'd sell the team...and will continue to do so while also following the team through thick & thin.
Ironically though, a consistent & organized fan revolt is the thing that just might do the trick to force him out.
:hope:
 

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They can’t.

There is no cap space to sign a superstar. So it is moot.

Those things are important, yes. Winning culture matters more.

There are cities with all those things + culture the star isn’t picking NY.

And because they waste cap space on mediocre players, they are rarely in position to sign a superstar where everything has lined up including a promising core with cap space.
They have had the money, c mom , not every year , but they had it.

Cmon man. What the… you keep saying the same thing over and over and over.

Superstars players won’t play here cause the media will tear them apart by holding them accountable. PERIOD

durant keyrie harden thought Brooklyn closest thing to the Mecca , thought they would not be under microscope, but they were wrong.

Got dammmm. Son…..
 

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Yep...there's a fair number of "star" & even some "superstar" players who'd love to play in NYC and call MSG their home...but unfortunately many of them have seen Dolan's blueprint and how the franchise has been run by him, but also because of who he is, so they basically tell their agents to find another situation for them.
It's been the case for a long time now. The thing is though, Knicks fans are a rabid bunch and devoted to their team no matter what.
Dolan is a complacent boob who knows they'll never suffer from poor ticket sales as a result of the Knicks die hard fan base.
I for one have been praying, wishing, & hoping he'd sell the team...and will continue to do so while also following the team through thick & thin.
Ironically though, a consistent & organized fan revolt is the thing that just might do the trick to force him out.
:hope:
Knick fans are rabid die hard, lol …. the fans you see at game , if you think you’ll see the same ones nite after nite, except for the celebrities, yer nuttier than I think … those are all corporate seats filled by celebrity watchers who know nothing about the game but will root as if they have been rabid die hard fans all their lives … it’s called knick fan for a night.
 

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Knick fans are rabid die hard, lol …. the fans you see at game , if you think you’ll see the same ones nite after nite, except for the celebrities, yer nuttier than I think … those are all corporate seats filled by celebrity watchers who know nothing about the game but will root as if they have been rabid die hard fans all their lives … it’s called knick fan for a night.
:crazy:

:tsk:
 

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You must be lookin in mirror bruhhhhh…

Would you pay thousands of dollars for season tickets for the Knicks? lol
Well they are 3-1 right now. So things are looking up at the moment. But we need to remember it’s a marathon not a sprint
 

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Well they are 3-1 right now. So things are looking up at the moment. But we need to remember it’s a marathon not a sprint
All I’m lookin for is a competitive game with a challenged roster..

Problem I see is no one is maturing…

I know it’s only 4 games but I see the same thing from these guys that I saw for an entire season.

No one is maturing into anything.. looks like Brunson is the only one on the court who is complete. His defense is a little suspect . Barret is either hittin the weights too hard or the buffet line. Quickly looked awful last night. Toppin only saw him a bit, he hit a 3 but don’t think thibs has a lot of faith in him. Still think Robinson will never change, get a few garbage dunks terrible on D , will block some shots , but makes too many bad decisions down low. Fornier sucks… don’t know other Duke kid well enough … and Randle??? Dude is whacked out on somethin.

Team can’t hold a lead
 

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They have had the money, c mom , not every year , but they had it.

Cmon man. What the… you keep saying the same thing over and over and over.

Superstars players won’t play here cause the media will tear them apart by holding them accountable. PERIOD

durant keyrie harden thought Brooklyn closest thing to the Mecca , thought they would not be under microscope, but they were wrong.

Got dammmm. Son…..

I keep saying it because I am right.

Trying to get through that thick skull of yours.

Maybe the clipboards did more damage than originally thought?

And you honestly believe KD and Kyrie picked Brooklyn because they thought they would be less scrutinized?

They picked Brooklyn because Brooklyn had a stronger culture and more pieces to build around
 

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I keep saying it because I am right.

Trying to get through that thick skull of yours.

Maybe the clipboards did more damage than originally thought?

And you honestly believe KD and Kyrie picked Brooklyn because they thought they would be less scrutinized?

They picked Brooklyn because Brooklyn had a stronger culture and more pieces to build around

CTE from all of those clipboards is the only possible explanation at this point.
 
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