Josh Gordon 2019

[Southieinnc]

Josh Gordon's impending restricted free agency will be a big win for Patriots

 

[BigKen]

Depending on who would make the offer it could a huge deal for Gordon or a huge deal for Gordon and the Patriots working together.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Josh Gordon's impending restricted free agency will be a big win for Patriots

If I am Gordon and his agent I would be really really careful how I play this. Josh may be better off not signing with the Pats, we all know and he knows the years TB12 has left may be limited. If he were to sign an extended contract with the Pats he may end up in a Cleveland type situation a team looking for a QB. If the Pats go on to win the SB this year (doubtful IMO) Josh will have gotten a ring and I suspect it would be harder for the Pats to keep him, what would the tender be? 1st Round pick one would assume, and if the Pats are looking to replace Brady and draft a QB early that may come in handy.

 

[Shoeshine Boy]

Nobody's going to give him a contract the Pats wouldn't match and cough up a 1st round pick for him with his track record. By far the most likely scenario is he plays out the year on the tender and hits UFA in 2020.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Nobody's going to give him a contract the Pats wouldn't match and cough up a 1st round pick for him with his track record. By far the most likely scenario is he plays out the year on the tender and hits UFA in 2020.

If the Pats are willing to take a first there would be no need to match the contract. As I said this makes sense to me only of the Pats are looking to take a QB early, and I am not to impressed with this QB class.

The kid I like is Fromm from UGA but I don't think he is coming out this year.

 

[Shoeshine Boy]

The Pats may very well be willing to take a 1st...but my larger point was that there's virtually no chance someone's going to even craft an offer sheet for them to consider whether to match or not if that's the cost.

Yes, Fromm is a true soph and not eligible to apply for the draft this year. He'd almost definitely be a very high pick if he were, probably the first QB off the board.

 

[YankeeRebel]

The Pats may very well be willing to take a 1st...but my larger point was that there's virtually no chance someone's going to even craft an offer sheet for them to consider whether to match or not if that's the cost.

Yes, Fromm is a true soph and not eligible to apply for the draft this year. He'd almost definitely be a very high pick if he were, probably the first QB off the board.

Agreed on Fromm which means when he is available no way the Pats get him. He'll end up a Jet I bet.

 

[Shoeshine Boy]

Would be pretty surprising to see the Jets giving up on Darnold after only 2 years. The other NY team could be in the market for a QB at the top of the draft in 2020, though...

 

[nefansince75]

The Pats may very well be willing to take a 1st...but my larger point was that there's virtually no chance someone's going to even craft an offer sheet for them to consider whether to match or not if that's the cost.

Yes, Fromm is a true soph and not eligible to apply for the draft this year. He'd almost definitely be a very high pick if he were, probably the first QB off the board.

Really? I've seen a whole lot dumber moves in the past. A team with a late first rounder offering 5 mill per doesn't seem that much of a stretch... Then the Pats would have to consider the pick vs the value of Gordon at a relatively cheap price.

To me the real question is this: will Gordon understand he created the situation in which his only option will be playing for a discount? Will he think he "deserves more" and create a distraction?

The guy we've seen so far says and does all the right things. When asked if he thought he should have been a bigger part of the first half, he basically said "we won the game, who am I to question it?" Really good answer.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Would be pretty surprising to see the Jets giving up on Darnold after only 2 years. The other NY team could be in the market for a QB at the top of the draft in 2020, though...

True, but it's the Jets so I just tossed their hat in the ring. But yeah the NYG For sure.

 

[Shoeshine Boy]

Really? I've seen a whole lot dumber moves in the past. A team with a late first rounder offering 5 mill per doesn't seem that much of a stretch... Then the Pats would have to consider the pick vs the value of Gordon at a relatively cheap price.

I mean sure anything's possible, but for this guy I don't see a team willing to risk it. Sure lots of teams were on him when the cost was a 5th and the remainder of a $700K contract. When you're talking about committing multiple years, millions of dollars, and a 1st rounder? I'd be very surprised to see that happen.

 

[YankeeRebel]

I mean sure anything's possible, but for this guy I don't see a team willing to risk it. Sure lots of teams were on him when the cost was a 5th and the remainder of a $700K contract. When you're talking about committing multiple years, millions of dollars, and a 1st rounder? I'd be very surprised to see that happen.

They could back load the contract. " Hey look we need to make sure we are protecting our interest here too". Back load the contract, write in incentives it could be done. Personally I would like the Pats to offer him a deal.

 

[Shoeshine Boy]

A contract like that the Pats would probably match, though, which goes back to my original point...a contract the Pats wouldn't want to match, in addition to the 1st rounder

 

[BigKen]

Yes, Fromm is a true soph and not eligible to apply for the draft this year. He'd almost definitely be a very high pick if he were, probably the first QB off the board.

Unless he really wants to be a pro. The NFL doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning any court challenge. If there's a 6'6" 325 lb LT who's been a Texas All-State since he was a Freshman and doesn't want to go to college, the NFL will fold just like the MLB, NHL and NBA have. The only thing that they've been able to say is that an 18 year doesn't have a body mature enough to compete at their level. There's a LeBron out there who's going to prove them wrong and screw college footbaljust like the NBA screwed the colleges.

 

[Shoeshine Boy]

Maurice Clarett says hi.

 

[YankeeRebel]

Maurice Clarett says hi.

I was trying to remember his name. He had such a stellar career it was easy to forget.

 

[PatsFan2003]

It's a tough call for both Gorden and the Patriots. It seems Gordon really does appreciate the support and fit he got here here but money is money so it might be hard to turn down if someone offers.

And the Patriots don't tend to give big contract this way, particularly when the players is "fragile"

Still, he's been very good for the Pats this year. I'd like him to stay.

 

[Southieinnc]

It's a tough call for both Gorden and the Patriots. It seems Gordon really does appreciate the support and fit he got here here but money is money so it might be hard to turn down if someone offers.

And the Patriots don't tend to give big contract this way, particularly when the players is "fragile"

Still, he's been very good for the Pats this year. I'd like him to stay.

I like Josh staying. However, 3 catches a game is not #1 money. What is he worth?

 

[Stakesarehigh]

If the Pats are willing to take a first there would be no need to match the contract. As I said this makes sense to me only of the Pats are looking to take a QB early, and I am not to impressed with this QB class.

The kid I like is Fromm from UGA but I don't think he is coming out this year.

No one is going to give up a first on Gordon

That just isn't happening

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Unless he really wants to be a pro. The NFL doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning any court challenge. If there's a 6'6" 325 lb LT who's been a Texas All-State since he was a Freshman and doesn't want to go to college, the NFL will fold just like the MLB, NHL and NBA have. The only thing that they've been able to say is that an 18 year doesn't have a body mature enough to compete at their level. There's a LeBron out there who's going to prove them wrong and screw college footbaljust like the NBA screwed the colleges.

There's nothing illegal about the NFL's position on college/time out of HS

That would be akin to saying a job can't ask for a college degree