Jimmy Johnson: HoFer?

[Midnightangel]

Ex-Dallas Cowboys HC Jimmy Johnson is up for the hall this year and I was wondering if he deserves it.

He was a great coach. He rebuilt a team that was horrible and won 2 SB's with them. Hell, they even won a 3rd with Barry Switzer as HC.

He even managed to win - to a lesser degree - with the Miami Dolphins.

That being said he was a HC for not a whole lot of years.

So the argument will be made that he may not have been so great had he coached longer.

You can only judge someone by what they did, and not speculation....

So did he coach long enough to make Canton?

 

[Dude]

He choked in Miami with Dan Marino in late prime, but that really wasn't Jimmy's fault, was it?

A SB win with Miami would have sealed it.

 

[BloodType49]

 

[NinerSickness]

Ex-Dallas Cowboys HC Jimmy Johnson is up for the hall this year and I was wondering if he deserves it.

Jimmy Johnson is one of the best coaches of all time, and he would be up there on the mount Rushmore of GMs with Bill Walsh & Ozzie Newsome if they made one. Hell yes Jimmy Johnson should be a first-ballot HOFer.

 

[fordman84]

not sure he had the tenure to be HoF. Maybe eventually.

 

[NinerSickness]

not sure he had the tenure to be HoF. Maybe eventually.

Jimmy Johnson accomplished more in his short tenure than cheater Belichick has in his entire career IMO. I don't see what adding a bunch of mediocre seasons to his resume would have accomplished.

He's like Aaron Rodgers. If he has a couple more season like he's had lately he's a first-ballot HOFer IMO. I don't give a crap about padding with a bunch of meaningless stats; Aaron Rodgers is one of the best QBs who's ever played the game, and Jimmy Johnson is one of the best coaches (especially GMs) of all time.

Or more like he's MJ. Sure MJ cemented his GOAT status coming back for 3 more rings, but he was already the GOAT when he retired the first time IMO.

 

[Bulldog]

He was good with Dallas and not so much with Miami. He really wasn't in Dallas for that long a period of time, pretty short tenure. His lack of success in Miami certainly doesn't do much for a HOF bid.

 

[JDM]

Jimmy Johnson accomplished more in his short tenure than cheater Belichick has in his entire career IMO. I don't see what adding a bunch of mediocre seasons to his resume would have accomplished.

He's like Aaron Rodgers. If he has a couple more season like he's had lately he's a first-ballot HOFer IMO. I don't give a crap about padding with a bunch of meaningless stats; Aaron Rodgers is one of the best QBs who's ever played the game, and Jimmy Johnson is one of the best coaches (especially GMs) of all time.

Or more like he's MJ. Sure MJ cemented his GOAT status coming back for 3 more rings, but he was already the GOAT when he retired the first time IMO.

Belichick dwarves his winning percentage. Johnson had two good seasons.

 

[Dude]

He was good with Dallas and not so much with Miami. He really wasn't in Dallas for that long a period of time, pretty short tenure. His lack of success in Miami certainly doesn't do much for a HOF bid.

I think the situation with Miami was bad for him, they had a bad owner back then. Huizenga wasted Dan Marino's best years. I remember people were saying back then, Jimmy is going to coach that team with that intrusive owner. I'm convinced Dan's last game when they got whipped by the Jags and the coach saying wtf was more a product of the owner being an ass than the team not delivering. He would go down on the field and try to tell them what to do. Why do you hire someone of JJs caliber to get in the way. Let them do their job you fool.

 

[JohnRandle]

Belichick dwarves his winning percentage. Johnson had two good seasons.

This for sure..
Without longevity, you can't judge him.

 

[ONEPANTHERSFAN]

2 SB's and should have had a 3rd in Dallas in a rather short time frame. That should get him into the HOF. Not sure about doing it on the first ballot but he will get in there.

 

[BOTSLAYER]

I need to see the list of HOF coaches but my gut says no but then thinking about it there can not be that many back to back SB winners, and Switzer winning it all lessens Johnson not helps, he had a great team that if you did not win it all would have been a joke.

 

[Wazmankg]

No. Switzer won it all with that team. Miami got worse under him and better after he left. Aside from those 2 seasons he was a sub-.500 coach. That said, I'm pretty sure that every coach with 2 SBs is in. Bottom line is he just didn't do it for long enough.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

No...he was great in rebuilding the Cowboys, but that run in DAL is really his only claim to the HOF...imo a coach going in needs a longer book of work at a high level.

 

[RegentDenali]

He'll get there one day, but he's not a HOF 1st ballot coach. He'll get in eventually partly because of all the years he's spent on doing pre and post game analysis on the networks. He'll get in based partly on his "post coaching PR" for the league legacy.

Not shocking at all his only other cheerleaders besides Cowgirl fans pining for the old "uncapped" days are SF fans pining for the no cap glory days as well.

 

[bigdeal701]

I'm going to say no, he just didn't coach long enough. I think had Jerry Jones left him alone and let him do his thing, he would have had at least 3 rings, maybe 4 or 5. The Cowboys went down hill fast after he left. In Miami he was dealing with a bad owner and an aging QB, so I don't blame him for not winning it all there.

 

[bigdeal701]

No. Switzer won it all with that team. Miami got worse under him and better after he left. Aside from those 2 seasons he was a sub-.500 coach. That said, I'm pretty sure that every coach with 2 SBs is in. Bottom line is he just didn't do it for long enough.

Yeah Switzer did win it all, but he did it with the team Jimmy built. He should have won it all twice, no way a Jimmy Johnson coached team turns the ball over 3 times in the first 7 minutes of a Championship game. I do agree Jimmy didn't coach long enough to be in the Hall, but I don't blame Miami on him.