Jim Rutherford Named Penguins General Manager

[thedddd]

Now he is talking about MoneyBall in hockey terms.

 

[KennyBanyeah]

I don't understand firing Shero still. He was great in trades, signed a lot of good contracts (a few bad ones, yes, but a lot of good ones), and if you were displeased with the draft, overhaul the scouting department.

It's kind of how I feel about it. Unless they didn't like his choice of coaches I don't see a huge problem. And if it was his choices coaches, why retain Bylsma for this long?

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Now he is talking about MoneyBall in hockey terms.

Rutherford???

shoulda hired Mike Gillis if they wanted moneypuck

 

[pixburgher66]

1000000000% obvious that the coaching decision was ownership's, not Rutherford's. This presser is chock full of information, btw. I can't keep up with it all.

 

[pixburgher66]

I might have preferred Pierre to Rutherford.

Okay, I'm being hyperbolic, but still...

...have you been reading my tweets? I literally tweeted that today.

 

[mattola]

12:30pm our time

SOoo Pierre..... What Happened?

 

[pixburgher66]

I love the analytics talk, and I love that they basically are grooming three guys to be GMs. I LOVE the inclusion of Guerin.

Annnnnd boom. Rutherford says this is probably a 2-3 year gig. He's there to mentor three potential GMs.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

SOoo Pierre..... What Happened?

that question has been asked (lol) ... Im thinking ... "So Pierre ... are the penguins now dead to you?"

 

[thedddd]

I love the analytics talk, and I love that they basically are grooming three guys to be GMs. I LOVE the inclusion of Guerin.

Annnnnd boom. Rutherford says this is probably a 2-3 year gig. He's there to mentor three potential GMs.

It gives Boterill a bone to stay on longer.

 

[thedddd]

Gee novel concept, need a better 4th line.

 

[thedddd]

Smart idea with Guerin.

 

[pixburgher66]

I'm pretty sure that Rutherford has noted the big weaknesses already, and that's brilliant. He noted a lack of adjustment against certain teams (when talking about Blysma), talked about utilizing analytics, he talked about lack of depth/support cast (fourth line filled with double digit minuses), talked about quiet locker room and need for a voice (can we get a Bill Guerin clone?), etc. He's hit the nail on the head with pretty much every worry I've had. It's impressive.

 

[Cobiemonster]

I love the analytics talk, and I love that they basically are grooming three guys to be GMs. I LOVE the inclusion of Guerin.

Annnnnd boom. Rutherford says this is probably a 2-3 year gig. He's there to mentor three potential GMs.

I wouldn't want advice from Jim Rutherford on analytics considering the Hurricanes have blown ever since winning the Cup - he has put together some horribly pathetic teams the last few years that people still don't rip him for because they've still gotten a pass for winning the cup

 

[pixburgher66]

It gives Boterill a bone to stay on longer.

Basically brought in a veteran to mentor and monitor, it's like a 3 year audition.

 

[Jims_Doors]

"4th line players in double digit minuses. You can't have that."

So long Adams and Glass aka Gladams 4th line.

Plus like how he said looking for a coach who knows how to make adjustments (shot fired at Disco)

 

[thedddd]

I wouldn't want advice from Jim Rutherford on analytics considering the Hurricanes have blown ever since winning the Cup - he has put together some horribly pathetic teams the last few years that people still don't rip him for because they've still gotten a pass for winning the cup

Yeah not too warm and fuzzy with Rutherford but surrounding him with smart associates/assistants will help.

 

[pixburgher66]

I wouldn't want advice from Jim Rutherford on analytics considering the Hurricanes have blown ever since winning the Cup - he has put together some horribly pathetic teams the last few years that people still don't rip him for because they've still gotten a pass for winning the cup

He said they'd bring in a guy specifically for analytics, so I'm guessing that he himself has a basic knowledge, but they want to bring in a pro. I really get the feeling this is a GM-team more than anything. We'll see. I feel better after that for the most part. The only thing that still has me uneasy is the involvement of Morehouse. Rutherford did say that he has full control, but who knows really. This is sort of an unprecedented approach to things...bringing in an older guy to mentor a younger one. Very interesting.

 

[thedddd]

Basically brought in a veteran to mentor and monitor, it's like a 3 year audition.

Makes you think they wanted Boterill all along but didn't feel he was ready or maybe Boterill didn't feel he was 100% ready?

You know Shero wasn't going to mentor him so they needed someone that was going to "retire" soon.

 

[Cobiemonster]

I'm pretty sure that Rutherford has noted the big weaknesses already, and that's brilliant. He noted a lack of adjustment against certain teams (when talking about Blysma), talked about utilizing analytics, he talked about lack of depth/support cast (fourth line filled with double digit minuses), talked about quiet locker room and need for a voice (can we get a Bill Guerin clone?), etc. He's hit the nail on the head with pretty much every worry I've had. It's impressive.

Jim Rutherford would know about a lack of depth, look at his 3rd and 4th lines in Carolina during the course of the 2013-14 season:

Riley Nash, Patrick Dwyer, Drayson Bowman, Manny Malhotra, Radek Dvorak, Zach Boychuk, Chris Terry, Brett Sutter and Kevin Westgarth

That is beyond pathetic - those eight combined scored 35 goals, 55 assists and 90 points in 397 games this season - he'll fit in with a Penguins team that has no 3rd and 4th line either

 

[Jims_Doors]

I wouldn't want advice from Jim Rutherford on analytics considering the Hurricanes have blown ever since winning the Cup - he has put together some horribly pathetic teams the last few years that people still don't rip him for because they've still gotten a pass for winning the cup

Gotta remember though, he can only spend what the owners tell him he can.