Again they were 3-1 with him and 0-3 with out him. its that simple. Even Kerr himself said it was a big injury because it changed the whole line up and the Middle was free. They didnt have a back up plan when he got hurt. Instead of green playin 12-15 min at center he had to play 25-30 min at center. Big difference. Not that hard to figure out. Is Bogut a great player no but he was still a starter who did certain things for this team like blocking shots and rebounding and having someone in the middle.
Im not comparing him to Irving. i even said his injury was worse for the Cavs but overall losing a starter hurts, plus take out green in Game 5 with out Bogut hurts. Then Iggy playing with a bad back in game 6 and 7 hurts. They were banged up just like the Cavs were banged up last year. I dont see the harm in saying this. Its a Fact. thats why I would like to see a Rd 3. Hope both stay Healthy. As of right now both team beat each other in the Finals.
And his injury is not even comparable to Kyrie's last year. Their record when he was healthy is irrelevant, it's and extremely weak piece of causal data. What's significantly more accurate is how they did when he was ACTUALLY on the floor (which, by the way, was an average of about 12-13 minutes per game), and it's a fact that they were worse when he played. You literally cannot argue that fact.
No, they weren't. Kyrie only played one game and Love played 0. That was two huge pieces. Draymond missed 1 game (notice they still lost 3 other games where he played?), and Bogut missed 2.5 games. That's not even in the same ballpark of injury issues.
I agree, I dont know where you are getting the Comparison part. I never said it was the same. Irving is a way better player and hurt the Cavs more. Love not so much nut still hurt because u lose Depth.
Its still major. Facts are Facts. 0-3 with out him 3-1 with him. Argument over. I dont know why u are getting so butt hurt. Its not taking anything away from the Cavs. As a fan I wouldnt mind seeing Rd 3 and hope both are healthy.
Bingo and they tried to start Ezeli and we all found out he cant be a starter in this league.
It's not being sensitive, it's pointing out when someone is very wrong and doesn't know how stats work. I wore the same shirt for games 5, 6, and 7. Had I not worn it last night, the Cavs still would've won. Just because I wore my shirt then, it doesn't mean that's why they won. Now, if you had a piece of data that specifically explained and proved how my shirt impacted the Cavs, that would be relevant. There's the difference between our two stances. Yours is based on coincidence while mine is based on real data. Very simple.
I been telling them how wrong they are but they are so blind its crazy. they cant see the difference of 0-3 and 3-1. I guess thats their issue.
So, you're telling me Golden State was better when Bogut was on the floor? Then why were they -25 with him in the lineup? You still can't explain that part away. Like I said, you don't know how causal analysis works. You're making up a connection between Bogut playing and their record when it's coincidental. Actual, real data shows they were much worse with him on the floor than on the bench. There's no easier way I can explain this to you, and despite having no way of combatting my point you insist that you're right. That's basically the definition of ignorance.
