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Is Russel Wilson an ELITE QB?

Great Dayne

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Monday Musings: Preseason shows Russell Wilson ready for higher level - CBSSports.com


Pete Prisco offers his best analysis since he's been in the business. He's just trying to make up for the negative D he gave the Hawks years ago for drafting Wilson.

Many Say Wilson is carried by his team and anyone could've led that team to the SB or Wilson would be non-existent in garbage teams like the Browns/Vikes.

I've been saying just the opposite. I've been stating since day one that was the best draft Seattle ever made and told all their fans he would win the starting Job and deserved it. NOT ONE AGREED. Wilson is in the top ten in nearly every efficiency category (which is what matters the most since he will not post the steller numbers since he doesn't get the opportunity to stat pad like many QB's). He's done this despite having the most inept (28th according to advanced statistics) passing O-lines in the game and a WR corps with only one solid #2 option and the rest were maybe decent #3-#4 options. The only thing that gave him a break was the run blocking is top 10 and Beast Mode is a top 10 RB still. But they play the conservative style and it's run run(if not effective) 3rd down Wilson has to bail them out every time. Also, him and Rodgers are tied for the least amount of time allowed by an O-line to throw a pass over the last 2 seasons.

Now with an improved pass blocking team some additions to the WR position and a healthy Harvin I feel they could incorporate a more balanced approach this season thus giving him the numbers to compete for an MVP award. He was 2nd or 3rd for the first half of the season in MVP voting on ESPN but the combination of O-line injuries and playing the best defenses in the NFL for 6 out of the 7 game in he second half it led to Wilson having an avg second half.

Right now I would say Wilson is easily a top 10 QB and would not take anyone over him for over the next decade. I believe in 5 years he will surpass Rodgers as the best QB in the NFL and this year he will solidify himself in the top 5 just behind Rodgers, Manning, Brees, and Brady. Stats and his leadership have proven this a valid prediction but I know many will not even consider him a top ten or even worse take a RGIII, Kaep, Luck, or even foles over him.
 

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No. He's good, but he has a dominant RB & defense. 2 things a lot of QB's don't have.
 

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Not yet... The 2 most important words you will read in this thread
 

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Wilson is fast, smart and has a decent throwing arm. A top 10 QB in my opinion.
 

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No. He's good, but he has a dominant RB & defense. 2 things a lot of QB's don't have.


Read my post. That's just in terms of winning games. Statistically he's a top ten QB with the worst pass blocking O-line and pedestrian at best WR's for last season. Defense is good for winning games and if anything running the ball has taken away from him padding his stats.
 

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He plays very well in the system they have. They don't really rely on him like some teams do with their quarterbacks like Denver, Green Bay, New Orleans, and New England though. It's yet to be seen if he can completely take over games like those guys but he makes great decisions and accurate throws. You can't ask for much more than that. Elite? No.
 

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Read my post. That's just in terms of winning games. Statistically he's a top ten QB with the worst pass blocking O-line and pedestrian at best WR's for last season. Defense is good for winning games and if anything running the ball has taken away from him padding his stats.
I agree.
 

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Wilson is fast, smart and has a decent throwing arm. A top 10 QB in my opinion.


Exactly, who else is there? There's the obvious Brady, Brees, Ben, Rodgers and Manning. After that there's a maybe in Rivers but then it seems debatable from there.
 

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Exactly, who else is there? There's the obvious Brady, Brees, Ben, Rodgers and Manning. After that there's a maybe in Rivers but then it seems debatable from there.
Don't forget about Tony Romo.
 

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Elite
Rodgers
Brady
Brees
P. Manning

Next tier
E. Manning
Roethisberger
Wilson
Luck
Flacco

Third tier
Rivers
Kaepernick
Stafford
Newton
Romo
Daulton

Missing some most likely but this is top of my head
 

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To me, Elite means top 5, not top 10-15, so not yet, but maybe someday
 

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Elite
Rodgers
Brady
Brees
P. Manning

Next tier
E. Manning
Roethisberger
Wilson
Luck
Flacco

Third tier
Rivers
Kaepernick
Stafford
Newton
Romo
Daulton

Missing some most likely but this is top of my head

Eli and Flacco are definitely not 2nd tier quarterbacks.
 

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Wilson is elite in terms of his ability to win games.

He's won more games in his first 2 years than any QB in the history of the NFL.
 

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I see a thread like this as progress for Wilson.

Two years ago the thread was that he was too short, last year the thread was that he wasn't too short but he was just a game manager, this year he's not too short anymore, he's not a game manager anymore and now the debate has gone up to "is he elite?"

Seems like every year the debate about Wilson goes up a notch. Maybe next year it will no longer be "is he elite?", but "where does he rank all time?" or "is Wilson HOF worthy?". I hope each year he proves the previous year's doubters wrong. He's got the work ethic now he just needs to keep producing. Time will tell.
 

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Hell yea... Get your arguments in before he removes any doubt.
 

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Wilson is elite in terms of his ability to win games.

He's won more games in his first 2 years than any QB in the history of the NFL.

Yeah but he also has an elite defense. I attribute probably 75%+ of those win to the defense.
 

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No.

Elite is reserved for 4 men right now and you can put them in any order you wish and you wont be wrong:

Manning, Rogers, Brees and Brady.

After that you have two by themselves: Big Ben and Eli.

Wilson is not elite.
 
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