Is Luka for AD the most shocking trade of all time

[True Lakers Fan]

With AD out there is a really good chance they miss the playoffs now.

It will only be for a few weeks - I haven't ever seen Davis play the entire season without something happening - Doncic appears to be the same in that regard, but the Lakers are winning without him right now - Reeves is showing off right now

 

[UK Cowboy]

With AD out there is a really good chance they miss the playoffs now.

100%

 

[Shanemansj13]

Why/how would he do so, when he's never reliably made Dallas a title contender? Hell, he only made the playoffs two-thirds of the time. As I've stated several times, your sentence above would have been roundly mocked at any time before last May.

He's a great player, but let's stick a little closer to reality. He's an extremely-high usage and not very high efficiency scorer. He's a below-average 3-point shooter, and his eFG% is league-average -- so he's not moving the needle when he shoots. His FGA last year were more than Bryant ever attempted, save one season. His passing and his ability to get 8 FTs a game are valuable, but his defense is not, and those traits alone do not make a contender.

It's like you aren't even trying at this point to be entertaining. You are panicking when losing a debate.

not very high efficiency scorer.

He shoots 2 pointers at around 56%. That is extremely efficient for a player like him. Lets just compare him to the GOAT, Lebron, he is also at 56%. He doesn't need to be a ridiculous efficient 3 point shooter but he can ramp down the 3 pt attempts he can easily get that % higher like Lebron did in his prime and now later in his career. It difficult for any player to be very efficient with the 3 ball while attempted 10 per game.

but his defense is not, and those traits alone do not make a contender.

I didn't know there was only one way to build a contender. I guess that Dallas title with Dirk didn't get that memo bc Dirk was a better poor defender his entire career.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Well it wasn't the worst trade for the Lakers - but Dallas is going for the win right now and then rebuild later - With Davis and Irving - my spin is they have a good chance for this year and next -

This year? AD is out for at least a month and they are 8th in the west. I'm not sure how that equates to "good chance this year".

 

[True Lakers Fan]

This year? AD is out for at least a month and they are 8th in the west. I'm not sure how that equates to "good chance this year".

The last I heard, they said two weeks - They must have changed it - Not that I am surprised - I was expecting him to go down any day - I would have went to Las Vegas and bet good money on that - Personally I think I would have kept Doncic and traded Irving for a younger and healthier player -These grandfathers need to retire already

 

[UK Cowboy]

It's like you aren't even trying at this point to be entertaining. You are panicking when losing a debate.


He shoots 2 pointers at around 56%. That is extremely efficient for a player like him. Lets just compare him to the GOAT, Lebron, he is also at 56%. He doesn't need to be a ridiculous efficient 3 point shooter but he can ramp down the 3 pt attempts he can easily get that % higher like Lebron did in his prime and now later in his career. It difficult for any player to be very efficient with the 3 ball while attempted 10 per game.


I didn't know there was only one way to build a contender. I guess that Dallas title with Dirk didn't get that memo bc Dirk was a better poor defender his entire career.

100% on point

 

[trojanfan12]

That's to show his next employer he isn't basketball brain dead lol

Probably sent his resume to the Lakers.

 

[DJ Fieri]

This year? AD is out for at least a month and they are 8th in the west. I'm not sure how that equates to "good chance this year".

2 weeks, it could be as long as a month.

 

[msgkings322]

2 weeks, it could be as long as a month.

Just stop it

ESPN's Shams Charania reports that he will likely miss at least multiple weeks, if not over a month

How long is Anthony Davis out? Adductor injury timeline, return date, latest updates for Mavericks star | Sporting News

One of the most controversial trades in NBA history has taken yet another turn, with Anthony Davis set to miss significant time with injury.

www.sportingnews.com

 

[UK Cowboy]

This year? AD is out for at least a month and they are 8th in the west. I'm not sure how that equates to "good chance this year".

That's because it doesn't and never did

 

[Mebert]

I didn't know there was only one way to build a contender. I guess that Dallas title with Dirk didn't get that memo bc Dirk was a better poor defender his entire career.

To be fair, Dirks run at titles came after adding Tyson Chandler to help the defense.

.....to be more fair, the Mavericks did not trade Dirk for Tyson Chandler's defense.

 

[shopson67]

That's because it doesn't and never did

The good chance was prior to Sunday's injury, which faded further as the estimated missed time increased.

They'll have to succeed from further out, possibly the play-in tournament. If/when they get their bigs all healthy, they are still a tough out.

 

[trojanfan12]

That's because it doesn't and never did

The good chance was prior to Sunday's injury, which faded further as the estimated missed time increased.

They'll have to succeed from further out, possibly the play-in tournament. If/when they get their bigs all healthy, they are still a tough out.

If they can just get to the play in healthy, they will be the proverbial "team no one wants to play". The Lakers made a run to the WCF in a similar situation...the Mavs could do the same, imo.

 

[UK Cowboy]

If they can just get to the play in healthy, they will be the proverbial "team no one wants to play". The Lakers made a run to the WCF in a similar situation...the Mavs could do the same, imo.

True, my complaint on trading a 25 year old star for a 31 year old star is that their (warped) reasoning was that it gave us a "better chance to win now". Except, Luka CARRIED this team to the Finals last year. That team had no business being in the Finals. They were underdogs almost every series. To pretend we had some great assembly of talent that AD somehow pushes over the top because he plays better D than Luka is beyond absurd. Why the fuck didn't AD carry a better supporting cast in LA(LBJ, Reaves, etc) to the Finals last season if he is the answer. Beyond ridiculous

 

[msgkings322]

True, my complaint on trading a 25 year old star for a 31 year old star is that their (warped) reasoning was that it gave us a "better chance to win now". Except, Luka CARRIED this team to the Finals last year. That team had no business being in the Finals. They were underdogs almost every series. To pretend we had some great assembly of talent that AD somehow pushes over the top because he plays better D than Luka is beyond absurd. Why the fuck didn't AD carry a better supporting cast in LA(LBJ, Reaves, etc) to the Finals last season if he is the answer. Beyond ridiculous

It was just one game but look how well AD fit. We’d have to see more but a motivated and healthy AD might be at least as good and maybe better for winning now. Not to mention the other bigs are hurt now too, get everyone back and this team can be dangerous

 

[trojanfan12]

True, my complaint on trading a 25 year old star for a 31 year old star is that their (warped) reasoning was that it gave us a "better chance to win now". Except, Luka CARRIED this team to the Finals last year. That team had no business being in the Finals. They were underdogs almost every series. To pretend we had some great assembly of talent that AD somehow pushes over the top because he plays better D than Luka is beyond absurd. Why the fuck didn't AD carry a better supporting cast in LA(LBJ, Reaves, etc) to the Finals last season if he is the answer. Beyond ridiculous

I get it. It's the same issue everyone is wondering about. Heck, most of the Lakers fans that I know are having pretty subdued reactions because no one really understands why it happened. A friend of mine was saying it was an elaborate troll job until he saw Luka actually play for the Lakers. lol

 

[DJ Fieri]

True, my complaint on trading a 25 year old star for a 31 year old star is that their (warped) reasoning was that it gave us a "better chance to win now". Except, Luka CARRIED this team to the Finals last year. That team had no business being in the Finals. They were underdogs almost every series. To pretend we had some great assembly of talent that AD somehow pushes over the top because he plays better D than Luka is beyond absurd. Why the fuck didn't AD carry a better supporting cast in LA(LBJ, Reaves, etc) to the Finals last season if he is the answer. Beyond ridiculous

Just because they made it last season doesn't automatically mean they were returning to the Finals. The way things were going they weren't.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Just because they made it last season doesn't automatically mean they were returning to the Finals. The way things were going they weren't.

You don't know that though. Last year they were a 5 seed that finished 1 game better than the 8 seed and won the West.
Luka took Kyrie and role guys to the Finals. He took Brunson and junk to the WCF. I think with LBJ and those role players they are 50/50 for the WCF

 

[shopson67]

True, my complaint on trading a 25 year old star for a 31 year old star is that their (warped) reasoning was that it gave us a "better chance to win now". Except, Luka CARRIED this team to the Finals last year. That team had no business being in the Finals. They were underdogs almost every series. To pretend we had some great assembly of talent that AD somehow pushes over the top because he plays better D than Luka is beyond absurd. Why the fuck didn't AD carry a better supporting cast in LA(LBJ, Reaves, etc) to the Finals last season if he is the answer. Beyond ridiculous

Simple answer? They didn't match up well with the Nuggets. That may still be true this year. Also, Darvin Ham,

Had they played a different opponent that round (any of them really), they would've had a better chance of moving on.

 

[shopson67]

I get it. It's the same issue everyone is wondering about. Heck, most of the Lakers fans that I know are having pretty subdued reactions because no one really understands why it happened. A friend of mine was saying it was an elaborate troll job until he saw Luka actually play for the Lakers. lol

That's the problem with owners that don't rely on someone else for basketball decisions. They often exist in an echo chamber of people that won't (or can't) dissuade them from poor decisions. I'm just thankful they came to Rob with their dysfunctional plan.