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Is Cleveland going to be THAT good?

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Cleveland is obviously going to be improved. I'm thinking they will win 11 games, but if they are going to be record breaking good like the 07 Pats (they're not going 16-0) or 2013 Seahawks, then they will win more.

I currently see NE, Seattle, Arizona, Baltimore, and Pittsburgh as losses. Seattle and Arizona are not better, but Seattle's rest ratio is better than Cleveland's for that matchup, and Arizona is at home three straight weeks and someone is going to get unlucky between Pittsburgh and Cleveland. However, it could be SF they lose to instead. That's a back to back road game on primetime with the opponent coming off of a bye and previous home game against Pittsburgh. I think it's a matter of if Pittsburgh strikes first or not in either road games.

Houston lost three straight home games in 2013, but I don't think Arizona is going to be that bad.

But the Browns will win more than 11 if they are going to be dominant team. But I cannot go past 13-3.
 

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I doubt they win their division.
 

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Cleveland has drafted well under Dorsey. I expect them to be competitive in their division.
 

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I would think 10-6 with he possibility they step on their dicks or go 12-4. The big thing they got going for them is the Steelers are not especially intimidating anymore. Say what you will about AB- but he was damn good; Ben can't carry that team by himself (or next to it) anymore. JuJu can't be all there is.
 

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They'll be vastly improved for sure. Remember they would have been contenders if they had a kicker last year and now they have an offense.. Just imagine what they can do
 

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High ceiling is 10 wins
Founder around 7 wins

Have to see them play first before I go higher on the wins total. On paper they look good but DCs have a year of tape on Baker to make adjustments.
 

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Browns will win the next 7 super bowls. They have Mayfield and he is the "face of the NFL" .
 

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Will really have to wait and see. I know they are everyone's team to watch but the football gods have a way of turning shit sideways.
 

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Browns will win the next 7 super bowls. They have Mayfield and he is the "face of the NFL" .
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Cleveland is obviously going to be improved. I'm thinking they will win 11 games, but if they are going to be record breaking good like the 07 Pats (they're not going 16-0) or 2013 Seahawks, then they will win more.

I currently see NE, Seattle, Arizona, Baltimore, and Pittsburgh as losses. Seattle and Arizona are not better, but Seattle's rest ratio is better than Cleveland's for that matchup, and Arizona is at home three straight weeks and someone is going to get unlucky between Pittsburgh and Cleveland. However, it could be SF they lose to instead. That's a back to back road game on primetime with the opponent coming off of a bye and previous home game against Pittsburgh. I think it's a matter of if Pittsburgh strikes first or not in either road games.

Houston lost three straight home games in 2013, but I don't think Arizona is going to be that bad.

But the Browns will win more than 11 if they are going to be dominant team. But I cannot go past 13-3.
Wow. We must've reached some kind of milestone if a non-Browns fan is predicting such dominance. One might be mistaken enough to believe that the team did better than a 7½ win season last year or more than 2 winning seasons since franchise re-inception 20 years ago.

The biggest thing the team has going for it, is that the division is kinda sucky these days. The Steelers seem weaker, the Ravens are rebuilding, and the Bengals are... the Bengals.
 

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I originally didn't have the Browns taking the AFCN until 2020. I thought the Steelers would keep it at least one more year with the Ravens right up there as well. I'm still not quite ready to declare the Browns as this year's division champs, but they definitely improved over the offseason, with the Steelers and Ravens either looking worse or at most going sideways. It should be one of the best divisional races in the NFL this year.
 

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Did op provide any rationale why or why not browns will be any good
In the jumble
 

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but if they are going to be record breaking good like the 07 Pats (they're not going 16-0) or 2013 Seahawks, then they will win more.


But the Browns will win more than 11 if they are going to be dominant team. But I cannot go past 13-3.
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There's a difference between being talented and being great. Lots of talented teams go 8-8. Cleveland is without a doubt the most talented teams in the North . However they're pretty young and expectations can be a bitch . I still say 10-6/11-5 but that shit can go sideways in a hurry with a bad start
 
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